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Author Topic: Republican Senator Rand Paul and his Wife Threatened By BLM Mobs!  (Read 927 times)

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Republican Senator Rand Paul and his Wife Threatened By BLM Mobs!
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2020, 09:24:20 AM »
As much as I would enjoy sniping at a communist mob, now is not the time. Trump is WINNING this civil war right now, these riots are just a sign of desperation. The left would like nothing more than a bunch of armed patriots roaming the streets and getting rid of all the cockroaches, but the MSM would spin this to their advantage and we lose. Look what they're doing to the Kenosha kid...extensive video evidence of him defending his own life, the MSM paints him as a psychopathic murderer.

IDGAF what the lefties on here will say, I am not posting this for them; they can fuck off. But for all my fellow patriots, stay your hand. Stock up on ammo, sharpen your sabers, and stockpile food, medicine, water, etc. If the tipping point it reached, we'll be ready to respond with more force than any of these communist scumbags can imagine because at that point there will be nothing left to lose. The man willing to give up everything he has to fight tyranny is impossible to defeat. The streets will flow with their blood, not ours.

I hope the Rubicon moment isn't reached, I'd like to live a nice, peaceful life and go camping with my kids...but if it is alea iacta est and let the fuckers burn in the streets.

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Republican Senator Rand Paul and his Wife Threatened By BLM Mobs!
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2020, 02:42:33 PM »
I suspect the insurrection act will be invoked after the election.  Not because it's "safe" to do so then, but because what's planned afterwards will go out of local strongholds where there's DA cover, into middle America.  And these plans are already known.

As cold as it may sound, if you're going to go against an insurrection, that group needs to be as unsympathetic as possible.  Right now the rhetoric it uses still holds sway as an "if but for" in the minds of many people instinctively sympathetic to the center-left who've only read/watched MSM.

John Brown's raid didn't turn the country into one ready for the first CW; that took Sumpter.

I suspect what is planned after the election will be much more directly experienced by more people, crushing the rhetorical hold.  But without that, it still wouldn't be an overwhelming majority of people supporting what will be required to grasp the nettle fully.
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Republican Senator Rand Paul and his Wife Threatened By BLM Mobs!
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2020, 01:00:14 AM »
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Nope, didn't miss anything. But threats like that are so universal, that "kys"  is almost as common an internet acronym as "lol". Having a crowd of people getting in your face and shouting shit at you is a scary, dangerous situation and they were right to be worried. But nobody even threw a punch, so it's miles away from a gang of people actively trying to murder, as Randbaby repeatedly claimed.

This is an entitled elite who has never dealt a physical confrontation, and who is trying to overdramatize the encounter for political purposes. It's the definition of political theater.

Oh look, it's the 'useful idiot', conflating meaningless online smack talk like "kys" with a violent leftist mob screaming threats of violence they are capable of carrying out.

You and yours are the best opposition I could hope for.  Populist civnats are going to pull away more of the african and hispanic votes than they ever have before, slowing down the progress of the globalist filth for years.  Meanwhile my people are getting their ignorant equalitarian programming slapped right the fuck out of them.  Nobody wants burn-loot-murderers in their neighborhood, and no amount of lying press will convince them otherwise.
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« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2020, 06:10:39 PM »
Oh look, it's the 'useful idiot', conflating meaningless online smack talk like "kys" with a violent leftist mob screaming threats of violence they are capable of carrying out.

You and yours are the best opposition I could hope for.  Populist civnats are going to pull away more of the african and hispanic votes than they ever have before, slowing down the progress of the globalist filth for years.  Meanwhile my people are getting their ignorant equalitarian programming slapped right the fuck out of them.  Nobody wants burn-loot-murderers in their neighborhood, and no amount of lying press will convince them otherwise.
Oh look, it's a genuine idiot, conflating direct murderous intent and a mob that didn't even throw a single punch. The big drama was some shouting, and a cop who stumbled, while carrying a bike.

The rest of your post is a mix of complete gibberish and allusions to positions I don't hold.

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« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2020, 11:25:20 AM »
Oh look, it's a genuine idiot, conflating direct murderous intent and a mob that didn't even throw a single punch. The big drama was some shouting, and a cop who stumbled, while carrying a bike.

The rest of your post is a mix of complete gibberish and allusions to positions I don't hold.
Pat, you are making a classic error: you're judging this in retrospect. Hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20.


Demanding people make a judgement call, in a situation where a mob is screaming, hollering, possibly pushing and shoving? No thanks. I'll just default to 'you're violent and dangerous and I need to go away NOW'. Because I'm not a telepath and I don't have a good track record of reading people's intentions when they're mobbed up.

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« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2020, 12:17:26 PM »
Pat, you are making a classic error: you're judging this in retrospect. Hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20.


Demanding people make a judgement call, in a situation where a mob is screaming, hollering, possibly pushing and shoving? No thanks. I'll just default to 'you're violent and dangerous and I need to go away NOW'. Because I'm not a telepath and I don't have a good track record of reading people's intentions when they're mobbed up.
I don't where that's coming from. I've said repeatedly it was a scary situation, and haven't criticized their response in the moment. I'm criticizing Rand Paul's interview, which is clearly much later because the background appears to be a bright day and the scene with the protesters has lit street lights. In that interview, he makes repeated false claims portraying the situation not as a risk to his life, which would have been accurate if a bit overstated, because the risk was small and there was no sign it was escalating to a more violent confrontation, but as certain death if the police hadn't intervened. I quoted several examples of him doing that in my first post, and it's worth noting he also admitted that wasn't true -- in the middle of the interview he several times makes more moderate statements about the risk, before reverting back to the hyperbole. The hyperbole and the mussed hair (in contrast, his suit and tie seem perfectly coiffed; compare that to his tieless casualness in the clips from what was may have been the night before) make it clear this is a piece of political theater. All the responses I've gotten seem to be knee-jerk reactions based purely on assumed tribalism, not on looking at any of the actual facts.

Fuck tribalism, BTW. Idiots and grandstanders deserve to be criticized, regardless of their colors.
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« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2020, 01:03:47 PM »
Whatever.  It's clear that your blind spot on this or your animosity towards Paul or something else unclear from your posts is making it difficult for you to engage with the real world on this particular issue. 

That's not anything we are going to fix here.

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« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2020, 01:08:08 PM »
See? Perfect example of tribalism.

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« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2020, 02:10:42 PM »
Anyone else notice how everyone that disagrees with Pat on anything is doing so for invalid reasons that he assigns despite not knowing us personally, but in his heroic view of himself, this never happens to him?

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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2020, 02:27:53 PM »
So if someone is called out for not being objective the new defence is now being called Tribalism. Might as well simply say one wants an echo chamber on the matter. Just more honest as opposed to be pretending to want to hear from both sides on the matter. Rather than just pushing the carefully constructed personal narrative.

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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2020, 03:13:11 PM »
No, tribalism is when your reactions are based on team colors, not logic. Which is what appears to be the case, because nobody's addressed my central thesis: That Rand Paul falsely claimed he would have died, without police intervention. The situation was dangerous, but being jostled and shouted at is a long, long, long, long, long way from guaranteed death. He's exaggerating for political purposes, making this a clear case of political theater. If any of you really valued objectivity, you would have addressed this point.

Instead, what you (collective) have done is make assumptions about my personality, my emotional state, and a broad spectrum of my beliefs and political leanings, and then attacked me based on that caricature. Correction: Not a caricature, because caricatures are based on real things, just amplified. Completely imaginary and unrelated is more accurate. You're so far off, you're not even in the right galaxy.

Alathon reply to me ranted about globalism, equalitarian programming, and whatever the hell civnauts are. None of which had anything to do with Rand Paul's little dramatism, or my personal beliefs. Steven Mitchell did bring up a point, but a nonsense one: Paul being physically attacked by a neighbor in an unrelated incident doesn't mean the crowd in the latest event was really trying to kill him. Sureshot just made a post ostensibly against echo chambers and in favor of hearing from both sides (though thinking there are just 2 sides is a sign of tribalism), but used those to defend the dogpile against the one person expressing a dissenting view -- which requires a rather extreme level of cognitive dissonance. Note that the first two laced their very first replies to my posts with personal attacks directed at me, and the last questioned my motives instead of addressing anything I've said. While I respond in kind, I never initiated those kind of attacks.

What I hate most about tribalism is it shuts down any conversations. When people make stuff up about me instead of reacting to what I actually say, that's it. There's no way to get beyond that to discuss the issues, and it just turns into tiresome sniping and back and forth. I try to avoid this by always reframing my central point in my replies, as I did in the first paragraph of this post, but it never works. None of you have addressed it.

Shame that TheRPGSite seems to have taken a hard turn toward tribalism in the last couple months.




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Re: Republican Senator Rand Paul and his Wife Threatened By BLM Mobs!
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2020, 03:26:28 PM »
How is it false?  I mean what if the cops were not there and the mob did killed the couple? 

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« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2020, 03:28:02 PM »
make it clear this is a piece of political theater
100%. Those were actually all Russian actors hired by Putin pretending to be ANTIFA/BLM agitators in an effort to paint those peaceful groups as violent and help Trump get reelected. Just shut up.
How is it false?  I mean what if the cops were not there and the mob did killed the couple?
Why because Pat said so! Rand Paul CLEARLY was not actually fearing for his life, he was just playing politics!
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« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2020, 03:43:23 PM »
How is it false?  I mean what if the cops were not there and the mob did killed the couple?
It's false because he's making a very strong statement about something that was unlikely to happen. It's equivalent to saying "The ball would have landed on 00, if the roulette table wasn't jostled." The accurate statement would have been "there's a chance I could have won", or in Paul's case, something like "it was a dangerous situation" or "I feared for my life", not "I don't think we would have survived."
Why because Pat said so! Rand Paul CLEARLY was not actually fearing for his life, he was just playing politics!
I think he clearly was afraid. I've stated that several times. I also think he was playing politics.
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« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2020, 04:34:30 PM »
30 people have died so far this summer, and the mob is not an unemotional roulette wheel picking its victims dispassionately at random.  It is an irrational, emotional tribe acting tribally against those it determines are of another tribe.

The reason libertarianism is a late-comer on the political theory scene is because individualists who didn’t form tribes died in a violent world. It is a should-be philosophy
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