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Author Topic: Remember the slenderman stabbing?  (Read 2484 times)

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Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« on: June 27, 2022, 03:50:52 AM »
I gotta admit I must have forgotten this FUBAR,  but when reminded of it I vaguely recalled jt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_Man_stabbing

One of the two girls who committed this fucktarded act of gigaton class idiocy just got kinda sorta released last year.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-convicted-slender-man-stabbing-be-freed-monday-n1278980

The second is seeking release.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-slender-man-stabbing-seeking-conditional-release-rcna35109

Basically they  were 12 and claimed they wanted to ''appease the slenderman''.  ::) Both were found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. One was ruled 'insane' and the other was diagnosed 'schitzophrenic'.  I don't see the difference.

They were both sentenced to mental hospitals, for 25 and 40 years. I don't get that at all. I mean I believed if you were found insane you went away until your were called 'cured' or died.

The cases started a big storm over the internet and it's effects on children. Obviously nothing came of it.

This shit wasn't the net's fault, we had the Manson family when all we had was radio and vinyl records. Same for the jonestown case.

I'm curious what people here will think of this case. We all use the net obviously, we are gamers, we deal with violent fantasy as entertainment.  I hope most of us haven't committed any real attempted murders.  (Not yet, in my case)

Do you think the girls got off light? Got treated fairly?  I doubt people here will blame slenderman, what about the parents? Since we're all into the net and violent fantasy entertainment , what differences do you see between yourselves and these little idiots that (hopefully) kept you from pulling shit like this?




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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2022, 02:00:04 AM »
I certainly don't blame the internet, horror stories, TV, music, games or anything else of that sort.  The parents may share some blame, or may not.  I do know that not everything a kid does can be blamed on the parents, but without knowing more I can't judge.  Sometimes parents do at least share some culpability.  I also don't know enough about mental illness to know if these girls were really sick or just evil little shits.  Either way, they got off too lightly.  If they're sick they need to be hospitalized for a loooong time, either for treatment or to protect society from them, and if not crazy then they need long prison sentences.  In that case, keep them in a juvenile facility until they're of age, then prison.  I'd show them a little more mercy than I would an adult who'd done the same, but that's about it.

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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2022, 05:21:47 AM »
I'm just glad they weren't a couple years older and into a WoD game...

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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2022, 09:00:38 AM »
 A person who is mentally deficient to the degree they are murderously dangerous to others for life should just be put down.  If they are that tortured it is more humane, and if they are that dangerous it is more responsible. 

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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2022, 09:04:34 AM »
In principle maybe, but giving any government the power to declare someone dangerously crazy and execute them would be a greater level of insanity.  Even the most well meaning governments and maybe especially the most well meaning ones as they would be more proactive in killing those too mad to agree with their every policy.  If you think about it communism is the most well meaning government and the most proactive and the most horrible and bloody.  No, I'm not totally opposed to the death penalty or even governments but I don't ever want to see the two of them in the same room together.
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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2022, 09:45:13 AM »
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A person who is mentally deficient to the degree they are murderously dangerous to others for life should just be put down.  If they are that tortured it is more humane, and if they are that dangerous it is more responsible.

Putting down sick people is absolutely morally disgusting.
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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2022, 11:08:21 AM »
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A person who is mentally deficient to the degree they are murderously dangerous to others for life should just be put down.  If they are that tortured it is more humane, and if they are that dangerous it is more responsible.

Putting down sick people is absolutely morally disgusting.

   If they are deadly dangerous to others, it is not.  Morally disgusting is letting them stay around....and then act shocked when they kill some innocent person.  So spare me the moral outrage. 

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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2022, 11:10:24 AM »
  This is a common attempt to conflate every mental issue with people who are in fact murderously dangerous.  You can be one and not the other.  But if you have already killed someone, and it is because your brain is fucked up, I prefer to just send you to your maker.

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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2022, 11:26:28 AM »
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A person who is mentally deficient to the degree they are murderously dangerous to others for life should just be put down.  If they are that tortured it is more humane, and if they are that dangerous it is more responsible.

Putting down sick people is absolutely morally disgusting.

Wow, I'm kind of agreeing with you.  Honestly.

To be clear if someone has a terminal illness that cripples them, is terribly painful, etc and they can request euthanasia, yes it should be facilitated. (FUCK YOU CHRISTIAN FUNDIES!)

If someone is literally brain dead and will never recover, their NoK should be able to authorize euthanasia. (FUCK YOU JEB BUSH!!!)

And honestly if a person is doing a life in prison with no chance of release sentence, yeah, I could be ok with them requesting euthanasia.

But a physically functional person with sanity issues?  I'm not at all sure. TBH I have to be against it for now as we have trumpists who claim all liberals, democrats, gays, etc are mentally detective and would love to 'euthanize '' them.

Also as a run up to the holocaust the Nazis (the first generation ones, not the current ones) advocated and carried out 'euthanasia '' on ibsane abd retarded people.

So, yeah, actually, i'm generally agreeing with you here.

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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2022, 11:38:03 AM »
  This is a common attempt to conflate every mental issue with people who are in fact murderously dangerous.  You can be one and not the other.  But if you have already killed someone, and it is because your brain is fucked up, I prefer to just send you to your maker.

Hmmmm,  OK, ogg, if you're going to favor harsher penalties for seriously mentally ill people, the legendary 'ax wielding homicidal maniac' say, would you also favor harsher penalties for people who abuse or exploit mentally ill or impaired people?

In reality despite Hollywood's love affair with the insane criminal, people with mental illness are far more likely to be victimjzed by criminals.

So would you favor extra hard treatment of those who victimized the mentally ill?
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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2022, 11:58:55 AM »
  This is a common attempt to conflate every mental issue with people who are in fact murderously dangerous.  You can be one and not the other.  But if you have already killed someone, and it is because your brain is fucked up, I prefer to just send you to your maker.

Would agree that a lot of mental illnesses get a bad rap they don’t deserve, and people conflate them with things like psychopathy or sociopathy. Heck, cut out drug and alcohol abuse and the crime rates for the mentally ill are more or less in line with everybody else, they’re just a lot more likely to be victimized.

Which is part of why personally IDK if say being in a hospital for three days because of supposed danger to self, or even danger to others if you never actually harm anyone, should be reason to take away your gun rights for life as is currently done under federal law. I feel that ignores both the fact that victims with guns are more likely to prevent and deter crime, and that treatment for mental illnesses is a very real thing. I feel like you should at least be able to challenge stuff like that in court with psychiatric testimony from your meds/care provider and continued proof of mental well-being.

On which note, I feel like if you harm somebody purely on the basis of a treatable mental illness, you might still be salvageable. The death penalty isn’t something I’m intrinsically opposed to, but it is expensive. And if people who are so morally twisted they would actually kill someone in their right state of mind can at times get a pass on that or life imprisonment, I feel like somebody who’s never had mental health treatment is perhaps a case where we could actually attempt rehabilitation. Though there would need to be better follow-up and a way to mandate psychiatric care and observation, and taking one’s meds permanently, unlike now, if they want to even try it and in the long term get out  of a psych ward.
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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2022, 12:26:17 PM »
Wow, kindameh, this is my day for agreeing with people here.  8)

Your post showed more education and  awareness of mental illness issues, not to mention higher levels of wisdom and intelligence, than most lawmakers, political talking heads, 'influencers '' and 'experts' in the field show.

I am very impressed.
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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2022, 12:26:36 PM »
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A person who is mentally deficient to the degree they are murderously dangerous to others for life should just be put down.  If they are that tortured it is more humane, and if they are that dangerous it is more responsible.

Putting down sick people is absolutely morally disgusting.

Why?

We put down rabid animals, don't we?
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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2022, 12:30:38 PM »
TBH I have to be against it for now as we have trumpists who claim all liberals, democrats, gays, etc are mentally detective and would love to 'euthanize '' them.

Can you provide examples? Would those examples represent the mainstream thinking of Trump voters?
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Re: Remember the slenderman stabbing?
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2022, 12:34:00 PM »
Aaand then there's the usual talking cumstain shitlord fucktards....  ::)
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