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Really Green Ronin

Started by Abraxus, March 15, 2018, 07:31:32 AM

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Abraxus

https://greenronin.com/blog/2018/03/13/ronin-roundtable-whisper-networks-and-internet-justice/

and this:

https://greenronin.com/stop-harassment-standards-terms-other-practices/

Of all the people to try and present themselves as gatekeepers of sexual harassment in the industry.

A post I read elsewhere to me at least sums up the above:

"We did nothing wrong: the harassment policy."

Rather than a set of serious guidelines on handling harassment in the RPG industry, this is essentially a short story defending their handling of the Suleiman situation.

What a bad way to address this. They really could not make it any clearer that they're trying to protect themselves first and foremost. I was on the fence of keeping or selling my GR stuff. Now I'm more inclined to sell rather than keep. They seemed to have learned nothing imo. "If we virtue signal long and hard enough people will forget the whole Suleiman incident".

Krimson

Until recently I was Facebook friends with both Pramas and Nicole Lindroos. Then a few months ago I purged everyone who spammed political garbage, which was almost everyone. Even other FB almost celebrity friends like Jim Starlin. Now I don't have to see post after post of that nonsense, and I don't have to take it out on my books.
"Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse \'yiff factor\' than any other system." -- RPGPundit

Llew ap Hywel

And a fuck was not given....
Talk gaming or talk to someone else.

Abraxus

Enough to post in the thread apparently....

JeremyR

#4
Quote from: sureshot;1029424They seemed to have learned nothing imo. "If we virtue signal long and hard enough people will forget the whole Suleiman incident".

Well, that seems to have worked for Hollywood

I mean, how many Weinstein defenders have suffered? He's just been airbrushed from history. Nothing to see here.

S'mon

Quote from: JeremyR;1029519Well, that seems to have worked for Hollywood

Hollywood has a lot more resources to control the Narrative than Green Ronin does.

Omega

GR does something stupid... again...

News at Eleven...

Llew ap Hywel

Quote from: sureshot;1029505Enough to post in the thread apparently....

It's important to point out pointless things. Otherwise all these 'gaming forums' are going to head the same way talking about anything but games.
Talk gaming or talk to someone else.

crkrueger

It will be interesting to see if Nicole recovers from...
1. Her company running a project to gather new, young, female RPG writers and feed them to a sexual predator.
2. Her famous response to one of his accusers where she slut-shamed the accuser for having slept with Suleiman.
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MonsterSlayer

Quote from: CRKrueger;1029614It will be interesting to see if Nicole recovers from...
1. Her company running a project to gather new, young, female RPG writers and feed them to a sexual predator.
2. Her famous response to one of his accusers where she slut-shamed the accuser for having slept with Suleiman.

I read that with the announcer's voice from the old show "Soap". Damn I'm old.

[video=youtube_share;OSaNWYHmUvI]https://youtu.be/OSaNWYHmUvI[/youtube]

Abraxus

#10
Quote from: Omega;1029594GR does something stupid... again...

News at Eleven...

It's so weird to see a second train-wreck engineered by the conductor in action.

If I had any doubts about Nicole and by extension Green Ronin being delusional I no longer have them.

They fucked up in a BIG way and are trying everything to try and hide what they did. Except beyond a few fans no one is believing it.

Quote from: CRKrueger;1029614It will be interesting to see if Nicole recovers from...
1. Her company running a project to gather new, young, female RPG writers and feed them to a sexual predator.
2. Her famous response to one of his accusers where she slut-shamed the accuser for having slept with Suleiman.

I don't think they will imo. It's clear they learned nothing and are trying to deflect the issue by doing anything they can and like I said before and almost no one believes it.

Graewulf

I find it utterly sad that in our current state of mind and society that people need only be accused of something bad and the news media, social media, and all the SJWs out there take it as the complete truth right away. All three of those groups immediately jump to the worst case scenario and hop on the reactionary bandwagon before actually thinking about what it is they're whining about. If/when someone admits to or is proven guilty of whatever they've been accused of, that's one thing, but until then I tend to go with 'innocent until proven guilty'. Guess I'm old school like that. Just because someone says something or accuses someone of something doesn't mean it's true...

Ulairi

Green Ronin has shrunk in business as 5E has become healthy. The best thing for these third tier publishers business was an unhealthy D&D. Now that D&D is healthy again their business is shrinking so they are retreating into their cocoon of identity politics. They want to live on hipster welfare.

estar

Keep it on the specifics of Green Ronin, otherwise start a new thread in the Pundit's forum.

Motorskills

Quote from: Graewulf;1029639I find it utterly sad that in our current state of mind and society that people need only be accused of something bad and the news media, social media, and all the SJWs out there take it as the complete truth right away. All three of those groups immediately jump to the worst case scenario and hop on the reactionary bandwagon before actually thinking about what it is they're whining about. If/when someone admits to or is proven guilty of whatever they've been accused of, that's one thing, but until then I tend to go with 'innocent until proven guilty'. Guess I'm old school like that. Just because someone says something or accuses someone of something doesn't mean it's true...

So you agree that Weinstein did nothing wrong, at least not yet. Just checking.
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