Reading Tolkien will turn you into a right-wing extremists - UK Government

[SHARK]

Greetings!

"A bit more...". Ahh, yes. So sad, and such a tragedy that Britain has become a cucked petri-dish of insane mystery meat.

Build more mosques! Go ahead. I guess the few white Englishmen left approve of turning their young daughters over to the Muslim gangs to be plundered, again, and again...and again. I understand that British authorities constantly deny and whitewash and coddle the Muslim rape gangs. Muslim men are free to gang-fuck young British girls at will. And notice, the majority of the girls getting plundered are the young, white English girls.

Fuck. Just make laws that promote the Muslims to the highest status, and make the English breeding cattle. Plunder them endlessly, and grind them. That's what they deserve. Sadly, the good British were too civilized, too reasonable, and too nice. They are being repaid by having their entire culture and homeland sodomized and corrupted in an endless tidal wave. The greatest tragedy though, isn't even the foreign hordes, but that the British elites, the leadership, as well as many of the mid-level and even lower class peoples gleefully embraced this fate, and opened the gates.

It's especially tragic that the glorious heroes, the champions that stood tall throughout the fires and tribulations of World War II, sacrificed with such valor and courage to defend Britannia--just to have the recent British generations eagerly get on their knees.

I understand that English Christian churches are largely empty. It also seems that most of the people that still attend are utter heretics to the true faith. Ahh, well. The people over in Britain had better start studying the Koran. That's what is in their future. I guarantee the Muslims won't be as forgiving, naïve, and cucked as the British Christians--and all the wormy Woke hordes. The Muslims will make sure they are brutally crushed if they don't embrace Islam with proper enthusiasm. Muslim heresy? *Laughing* Those that don't get with the Muslim program are not celebrated--they are brutally killed. Meanwhile, the Muslim faithful rejoice. Such is Allah's judgment against the heretics and blasphemers.

Britain is in desperate need of a true revival, ala Cromwell style. I think it is too late for Britain though. They are doomed.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Trond]

Greetings!

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Britain is in desperate need of a true revival, ala Cromwell style. I think it is too late for Britain though. They are doomed.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83qBRmM00R4

[Garry G]

Sure, the assassination of Jo Cox showed the problem of right-wing extremism. But the stupid part is that flagging reading Tolkien is a way of addressing it.

I wonder, though, what the books flagged are for other ideologies. Would people who read Yeats or Swift be flagged for Irish nationalist extremism?

The whole idea of it a government program to secretly flag and track down people with ideas outside the mainstream and therefore "extremist" is reprehensible.

It's a report not government policy. It may or may not become a part of the Prevent policy but that's to be seen. I don't have any faith at all in the current UK government so I don't particularly expect them to implement good policy but there you go. If expect anything coming from stuff like this to be more than saying somebody who's read The Hobbit is an extremist though, it would be part of a picture being made.

Prevent isn't about secretly tracking people. It's about stepping in early to talk to people before they become radicalised. I have doubts about it's efficacy but I like the idea of engaging with people.

So, if they aren't secretly tracking people...

How the fuck would they know who they need to "step in early" with before they become radicalized?

From the 2000s to the present the ideology with the most terrorist acts is Islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

And the rape gangs aren't even included in that list.

Are you saying they should only focus on Islamic terrorism because there's a bit more of it? I can only infer that you're fine with the other guys. I'm going to need you to explain being okay with white Christian terrorism.

A bit more?  There's the understatement of the century...

I'll go for a lot more because it doesn't change the basic point that there's in implication that one type of terrorism is fine. Are you okay with a wee bit of white Christian terrorism?

Then why say "a bit" in your original assertion? 

I'm not ok with any terrorism.

You're okay enough to get into semantics about terrorism which is a wee bit icky especially when I referenced two old Muslim men burned alive earlier in the thread. That seems like something that's not good.

Semantics?  You bet.  Words matter.

Actions matter more. Suffice to say you're against terrorism in general and would support Prevent in it's attempts to stop Muslim radicalism therefore your fine wit it attempting to stop Christian right-wing radicalism because you're not keen on people burning old men to death. So we're copacetic.

[Garry G]

Greetings!

"A bit more...". Ahh, yes. So sad, and such a tragedy that Britain has become a cucked petri-dish of insane mystery meat.

Build more mosques! Go ahead. I guess the few white Englishmen left approve of turning their young daughters over to the Muslim gangs to be plundered, again, and again...and again. I understand that British authorities constantly deny and whitewash and coddle the Muslim rape gangs. Muslim men are free to gang-fuck young British girls at will. And notice, the majority of the girls getting plundered are the young, white English girls.

Fuck. Just make laws that promote the Muslims to the highest status, and make the English breeding cattle. Plunder them endlessly, and grind them. That's what they deserve. Sadly, the good British were too civilized, too reasonable, and too nice. They are being repaid by having their entire culture and homeland sodomized and corrupted in an endless tidal wave. The greatest tragedy though, isn't even the foreign hordes, but that the British elites, the leadership, as well as many of the mid-level and even lower class peoples gleefully embraced this fate, and opened the gates.

It's especially tragic that the glorious heroes, the champions that stood tall throughout the fires and tribulations of World War II, sacrificed with such valor and courage to defend Britannia--just to have the recent British generations eagerly get on their knees.

I understand that English Christian churches are largely empty. It also seems that most of the people that still attend are utter heretics to the true faith. Ahh, well. The people over in Britain had better start studying the Koran. That's what is in their future. I guarantee the Muslims won't be as forgiving, naïve, and cucked as the British Christians--and all the wormy Woke hordes. The Muslims will make sure they are brutally crushed if they don't embrace Islam with proper enthusiasm. Muslim heresy? *Laughing* Those that don't get with the Muslim program are not celebrated--they are brutally killed. Meanwhile, the Muslim faithful rejoice. Such is Allah's judgment against the heretics and blasphemers.

Britain is in desperate need of a true revival, ala Cromwell style. I think it is too late for Britain though. They are doomed.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Greetings!

I once knew an English girl and her family. She was from the North East and how we laughed as we talked about coal, the Blitz and how idiots talked like England was the UK. Her family were good hard working English stock who would cook eccles cake for me and we'd all laugh together over a pint of Carling as I patronised them. We often sat in their small garden talking about the Muslim problem and laughing at American idiots who listened to that gadje Farage and thought they had any fucking idea on how things actually are. I miss those halcyon days but we all must move on I suppose. I'm happy that I've brought those lessons with me as I've moved through my life thinking of heroes like Cromwell cancelling Christmas, what a guy.

It's a sair fecht,

MISTAH G

[Brad]

Leftist apologists are the worst. They think they're helping when really they're just accelerating destruction. Sad!

[GeekyBugle]

Sure, the assassination of Jo Cox showed the problem of right-wing extremism. But the stupid part is that flagging reading Tolkien is a way of addressing it.

I wonder, though, what the books flagged are for other ideologies. Would people who read Yeats or Swift be flagged for Irish nationalist extremism?

The whole idea of it a government program to secretly flag and track down people with ideas outside the mainstream and therefore "extremist" is reprehensible.

It's a report not government policy. It may or may not become a part of the Prevent policy but that's to be seen. I don't have any faith at all in the current UK government so I don't particularly expect them to implement good policy but there you go. If expect anything coming from stuff like this to be more than saying somebody who's read The Hobbit is an extremist though, it would be part of a picture being made.

Prevent isn't about secretly tracking people. It's about stepping in early to talk to people before they become radicalised. I have doubts about it's efficacy but I like the idea of engaging with people.

So, if they aren't secretly tracking people...

How the fuck would they know who they need to "step in early" with before they become radicalized?

From the 2000s to the present the ideology with the most terrorist acts is Islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

And the rape gangs aren't even included in that list.

Are you saying they should only focus on Islamic terrorism because there's a bit more of it? I can only infer that you're fine with the other guys. I'm going to need you to explain being okay with white Christian terrorism.

Two different matters:

You claimed in one post they weren't tracking UK citizens, if they aren't how are they able to know to whom they need to speak before they get radicalized?

On a separate post you claim it's "right-wing" extremist the most pressing issue, the evidence proves you wrong.

I'm gonna need you to explain why you're okay with the government tracking/spying on it's citizens.

Are you familiar with the concept of triage? You focus on the most urgent thing first, in the case of terrorism my contention is the group making the more terrorist attacks should be priority, then the second one, the third, etc.

Doesn't mean you do nothing about the second or third, it means you tackle things in order of urgency. The UK government, like all the European governments (with the rare exception in the eastern nations) are turning a blind eye to the most pressing issue to focus on mean words.

Like the "Christian Terrorist" they arrested for the horrifying crime of silently praying outside of an abortorium.

[Garry G]

Sure, the assassination of Jo Cox showed the problem of right-wing extremism. But the stupid part is that flagging reading Tolkien is a way of addressing it.

I wonder, though, what the books flagged are for other ideologies. Would people who read Yeats or Swift be flagged for Irish nationalist extremism?

The whole idea of it a government program to secretly flag and track down people with ideas outside the mainstream and therefore "extremist" is reprehensible.

It's a report not government policy. It may or may not become a part of the Prevent policy but that's to be seen. I don't have any faith at all in the current UK government so I don't particularly expect them to implement good policy but there you go. If expect anything coming from stuff like this to be more than saying somebody who's read The Hobbit is an extremist though, it would be part of a picture being made.

Prevent isn't about secretly tracking people. It's about stepping in early to talk to people before they become radicalised. I have doubts about it's efficacy but I like the idea of engaging with people.

So, if they aren't secretly tracking people...

How the fuck would they know who they need to "step in early" with before they become radicalized?

From the 2000s to the present the ideology with the most terrorist acts is Islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

And the rape gangs aren't even included in that list.

Are you saying they should only focus on Islamic terrorism because there's a bit more of it? I can only infer that you're fine with the other guys. I'm going to need you to explain being okay with white Christian terrorism.

Two different matters:

You claimed in one post they weren't tracking UK citizens, if they aren't how are they able to know to whom they need to speak before they get radicalized?

On a separate post you claim it's "right-wing" extremist the most pressing issue, the evidence proves you wrong.

I'm gonna need you to explain why you're okay with the government tracking/spying on it's citizens.

Are you familiar with the concept of triage? You focus on the most urgent thing first, in the case of terrorism my contention is the group making the more terrorist attacks should be priority, then the second one, the third, etc.

Doesn't mean you do nothing about the second or third, it means you tackle things in order of urgency. The UK government, like all the European governments (with the rare exception in the eastern nations) are turning a blind eye to the most pressing issue to focus on mean words.

Like the "Christian Terrorist" they arrested for the horrifying crime of silently praying outside of an abortorium.

Most things that I've seen coming up from Prevent are from people who work directly with them such as teachers and lecturers. The idea is to intervene before people become too radicalised. I have issues with Prevent and the way it's implemented but it's not showing a massive amount of secret tracking although I'm very open about being wrong on that.

The problem with triage is if it isn't implemented correctly and  causes more problems. It's good to prioritise what's going on but you need to resource properly. Covid is an interesting one for this, concentrating on that has had a deleterious effect on people with longer term problems leading to more damage. It's been shown that Prevent was focussed on one thing whilst not paying enough attention to another. This is part of a realignment of policy.

I was talking about "Christian Terrorists" like our friend burning old men to death or they guy in Christchurch for a more international flavour. I'm also from a country where "Christian Terrorism" has been a rather big thing.

[Garry G]

Leftist apologists are the worst. They think they're helping when really they're just accelerating destruction. Sad!

Weird.

[GeekyBugle]

Sure, the assassination of Jo Cox showed the problem of right-wing extremism. But the stupid part is that flagging reading Tolkien is a way of addressing it.

I wonder, though, what the books flagged are for other ideologies. Would people who read Yeats or Swift be flagged for Irish nationalist extremism?

The whole idea of it a government program to secretly flag and track down people with ideas outside the mainstream and therefore "extremist" is reprehensible.

It's a report not government policy. It may or may not become a part of the Prevent policy but that's to be seen. I don't have any faith at all in the current UK government so I don't particularly expect them to implement good policy but there you go. If expect anything coming from stuff like this to be more than saying somebody who's read The Hobbit is an extremist though, it would be part of a picture being made.

Prevent isn't about secretly tracking people. It's about stepping in early to talk to people before they become radicalised. I have doubts about it's efficacy but I like the idea of engaging with people.

So, if they aren't secretly tracking people...

How the fuck would they know who they need to "step in early" with before they become radicalized?

From the 2000s to the present the ideology with the most terrorist acts is Islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

And the rape gangs aren't even included in that list.

Are you saying they should only focus on Islamic terrorism because there's a bit more of it? I can only infer that you're fine with the other guys. I'm going to need you to explain being okay with white Christian terrorism.

Two different matters:

You claimed in one post they weren't tracking UK citizens, if they aren't how are they able to know to whom they need to speak before they get radicalized?

On a separate post you claim it's "right-wing" extremist the most pressing issue, the evidence proves you wrong.

I'm gonna need you to explain why you're okay with the government tracking/spying on it's citizens.

Are you familiar with the concept of triage? You focus on the most urgent thing first, in the case of terrorism my contention is the group making the more terrorist attacks should be priority, then the second one, the third, etc.

Doesn't mean you do nothing about the second or third, it means you tackle things in order of urgency. The UK government, like all the European governments (with the rare exception in the eastern nations) are turning a blind eye to the most pressing issue to focus on mean words.

Like the "Christian Terrorist" they arrested for the horrifying crime of silently praying outside of an abortorium.

Most things that I've seen coming up from Prevent are from people who work directly with them such as teachers and lecturers. The idea is to intervene before people become too radicalised. I have issues with Prevent and the way it's implemented but it's not showing a massive amount of secret tracking although I'm very open about being wrong on that.

The problem with triage is if it isn't implemented correctly and  causes more problems. It's good to prioritise what's going on but you need to resource properly. Covid is an interesting one for this, concentrating on that has had a deleterious effect on people with longer term problems leading to more damage. It's been shown that Prevent was focussed on one thing whilst not paying enough attention to another. This is part of a realignment of policy.

I was talking about "Christian Terrorists" like our friend burning old men to death or they guy in Christchurch for a more international flavour. I'm also from a country where "Christian Terrorism" has been a rather big thing.

"They're not tracking your social media, they're JUST using stasi informants!"

And I'm talking about the amount of one versus the other and the real actions the UK government has taken against it's citizens, like arresting a lady for silently praying outside an abortorium.

IMO if governments reacted correctly, timely and strongly against the Islamic terrorists many of the Christian ones wouldn't have happened. After finding out their daughters are being raped while their government turns a blind eye some might think it falls on them to do something, it's called tribal justice, it's what the modern justice systems are designed to prevent.

Again, triage, deal with the most urgent problem first, and you just proved that the Kung-Flu wasn't the most urgent problem.

[Grognard GM]

Garry, your ideology scares me. Not in a shooketh way, or I'm helpless against your logic, but in that the fact you think the way that you do terrifies me as a reasoning being.

[Zelen]

It's obvious that the most pressing danger to the regime that rules Britain is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Muslim gang rapists don't even move the peg in comparison.

[Garry G]

Today the terrorism threat in Northern Ireland was raised to severe which means they expect one to be imminent. I'm sure that's cos of Muslims.

[GeekyBugle]

Today the terrorism threat in Northern Ireland was raised to severe which means they expect one to be imminent. I'm sure that's cos of Muslims.

Wow, a place that has 12k Muslims with a population of about 2 million!

So not even 1% of the population, just wait till they are about 5%

[Brad]

And the shill brings up Ireland...lemme guess, your best friend joined the IRA back in the 70s and you've been lamenting it ever since?

[Garry G]

And the shill brings up Ireland...lemme guess, your best friend joined the IRA back in the 70s and you've been lamenting it ever since?

You know Shug? Oh what a loss Shug was to the art of interpretive dance when he left for the dadiast wing of the Real IRA.

That's the most incredibly mental thing I've come across in ages, well days to be honest as you're not that exciting. Awa and lie in yer own pish.