I need to launch my damn kickstarter!

[dragoner]

Not as bad as Falstaff, though.  I remember when the Falstaff brewery was located at the south tip of Lake Michigan, between south Chicago and Gary.

The one in Ft Wayne? Beer is beer though, we drank a ton of Falls City in college in the 80's.

[Fiasco]

Whatever gave you the idea that either Gary Gygax or Dave Arneson were in any way "left wing"?

Serious question.

Why do you continually conflate yourself with Gary and Dave?

[Rincewind1]

Beer is beer

Only American.

[Gronan of Simmerya]

Why do you continually conflate yourself with Gary and Dave?

Since the topic of this thread, and this book, is "how original OD&D looked to me," "you" is a word I read as "the first gaming groups," which were run by Dave and Gary.

[dragoner]

Only American.

Mass consumables.

[Armchair Gamer]

I have first-hand testimony that there was recreational drug use on the College of St. Thomas campus at the time. However, said recountings may very well have been exaggerated for dramatic/humorous effect.

  OG, were any proto-D&D or early D&D games being run on that campus at any point between Fall 1972 and Spring 1976?

[Gronan of Simmerya]

I have first-hand testimony that there was recreational drug use on the College of St. Thomas campus at the time. However, said recountings may very well have been exaggerated for dramatic/humorous effect.

  OG, were any proto-D&D or early D&D games being run on that campus at any point between Fall 1972 and Spring 1976?

Couldn't say.  No, wait.  There was a wargaming group that met Sunday afternoons at St. Thomas and a couple people ran D&D there, 1973-75.  However, there was a lot more miniatures wargaming there.

Note that many of us there on Sunday were playing D&D at other times and places, but we were at St. Thomas for our wargaming fix.

Larry Bond and I reduced innumerable battlefields to radioactive slag playing STARGUARD, for instance.

[Gronan of Simmerya]

I have first-hand testimony that there was recreational drug use on the College of St. Thomas campus at the time. However, said recountings may very well have been exaggerated for dramatic/humorous effect.

Well, I referred to Dave and Gary because I frankly felt who gives a shit about a bunch of college kids.

But any drug or alcohol use in my gaming pals at college was pretty lightweight.  Also, we found out that for us at least, drunk/stoned gaming was a waste of time.

[Armchair Gamer]

Couldn't say.  No, wait.  There was a wargaming group that met Sunday afternoons at St. Thomas and a couple people ran D&D there, 1973-75.  However, there was a lot more miniatures wargaming there.

Note that many of us there on Sunday were playing D&D at other times and places, but we were at St. Thomas for our wargaming fix.

Larry Bond and I reduced innumerable battlefields to radioactive slag playing STARGUARD, for instance.

  Thanks. Just curious if any early D&D had been happening while my father was on campus. I'm pretty sure he never played, though.

[Gronan of Simmerya]

One thing I need to make clear here; I don't know what the current mythology is, but the fact of the matter is 1972-1975 nerds were NOT cool.

That's important enough to say again.

Nerds were not cool.

Sure, everybody read Lord of the Rings.  But stoners just read it and went "oh waaaow" and college students just read about it.  Some would go to Student Literature Society or University Mythopoeic Society meetings and talk about it like great literature, but that's a different kind of nerdity.

We're back in the "nerds wear colors not found in nature and have eyeglasses held together with tape" days.  D&D spread from adult wargaming clubs to university wargaming clubs.  Anybody hip or cool enough to even know what pot was would have nothing to do with gaming mid 70s.

http://peterfeld.tumblr.com/post/78569002938/are-you-a-nurd-national-lampoon-oct-1974-of

[Randy]

[dragoner]

[Ronin]

Larry Bond and I reduced innumerable battlefields to radioactive slag playing STARGUARD, for instance.

Now your namedropping;) Did he ever run any "proto" Harpoon back then? Just curious.

[Saplatt]

...
We're back in the "nerds wear colors not found in nature and have eyeglasses held together with tape" days.  D&D spread from adult wargaming clubs to university wargaming clubs.  Anybody hip or cool enough to even know what pot was would have nothing to do with gaming mid 70s.
...

Meh, that's an exaggeration. Almost everyone in my gaming group back then knew what pot was.

Of course, none of us would have ever touched the stuff or any girl who had.



Okay, maybe I lied about the second part of that, but we'll never know for sure.

[RPGPundit]

OK, this has long since stopped being of any interest to me.