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Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!

Started by Spinachcat, April 06, 2021, 05:55:58 AM

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GeekyBugle

Quote from: Shasarak on April 09, 2021, 05:10:34 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on April 09, 2021, 06:08:41 AM
Quote from: Shasarak on April 08, 2021, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: jhkim on April 08, 2021, 06:22:15 PM
Overwhelmingly, both scientists and governments agree that covid-19 has more lethal power than a nasty cold, and that vaccination against it is a good idea.

More lethal power than a nasty cold for who?

If you are 80 years old.
I am aware of at least seven healthcare workers that I have worked alongside that have died in the last year from Covid. The youngest was 36, the oldest 61. These are people that I knew by name and interacted with, not just names on a list. In the case of three of them, I have met their families as well. I am only aware of one similar death in the last 10 years from the flu (back in 2016), and none from a cold in that time.

What about the people that you were not aware of?  How many of them died from the Flu?

None, because the kungflu magically displaced every other respiratory disease.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

jhkim

Quote from: Shasarak on April 09, 2021, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: jhkim on April 09, 2021, 02:08:36 PM
covid-19 is extremely deadly to seniors, but it's still severe and sometimes deadly to adults of any age - much more lethal than the common cold in every age bracket. We don't even need to consider classification that is disputed. Just look at the overall mortality of 2020 compared to other years. The under-65 group still has a very elevated mortality. There are a huge number of increased deaths.

Source: https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

This is shown as a percentage compared to previous years. As a percentage, the rate has gone up highly for all age ranges. The absolute lethality of covid is highest for 85+, but they already have a high death rate.

According to my sources the mean weekly death rate was 11% lower during 2020 then compared to the 2015-2019 average.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32647-7/fulltext

That's for New Zealand, not the United States. If you go to my link and switch countries to "New Zealand", you'll see the corresponding age data. New Zealand took very strict controls early on to prevent the spread of covid-19, and has had only around 2000 known infections ever.

Below is what your link says, though the highlighting is mine.

QuoteFirst, according to data collated in The Economist, New Zealand's reduction in mortality contrasts with the international experience of excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic. Second, the reduction in deaths is substantive. Across weeks 13–42 (ie, during and after lockdown), the mean weekly death rate was 11% lower than in 2015–19 (123·4 deaths per million population vs 138·5 deaths per million population, p<0·0001).

More on New Zealand:

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/how-did-new-zealand-control-covid19

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Shasarak

Quote from: jhkim on April 09, 2021, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on April 09, 2021, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: jhkim on April 09, 2021, 02:08:36 PM
covid-19 is extremely deadly to seniors, but it's still severe and sometimes deadly to adults of any age - much more lethal than the common cold in every age bracket. We don't even need to consider classification that is disputed. Just look at the overall mortality of 2020 compared to other years. The under-65 group still has a very elevated mortality. There are a huge number of increased deaths.

Source: https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

This is shown as a percentage compared to previous years. As a percentage, the rate has gone up highly for all age ranges. The absolute lethality of covid is highest for 85+, but they already have a high death rate.

According to my sources the mean weekly death rate was 11% lower during 2020 then compared to the 2015-2019 average.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32647-7/fulltext

That's for New Zealand, not the United States. If you go to my link and switch countries to "New Zealand", you'll see the corresponding age data. New Zealand took very strict controls early on to prevent the spread of covid-19, and has had only around 2000 known infections ever.

Below is what your link says, though the highlighting is mine.

QuoteFirst, according to data collated in The Economist, New Zealand's reduction in mortality contrasts with the international experience of excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic. Second, the reduction in deaths is substantive. Across weeks 13–42 (ie, during and after lockdown), the mean weekly death rate was 11% lower than in 2015–19 (123·4 deaths per million population vs 138·5 deaths per million population, p<0·0001).

More on New Zealand:

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/how-did-new-zealand-control-covid19

Of course it is from New Zealand.  Maybe if you guys had tries using masks and lock downs then you could have gotten a 11% death reduction as well.
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GeekyBugle

Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Brad

It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.


Trinculoisdead

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 13, 2021, 09:19:33 PM
Womp, womp, womp.
In the UK. For us US-people, were the deaths recorded in the same manner? If so, we should have the same miscalculations here. This is nowhere near the 6% figure that some people were circulating last year, but dropping the total from 582k to 438k is not insignificant.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Trinculoisdead on April 20, 2021, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 13, 2021, 09:19:33 PM
Womp, womp, womp.
In the UK. For us US-people, were the deaths recorded in the same manner? If so, we should have the same miscalculations here. This is nowhere near the 6% figure that some people were circulating last year, but dropping the total from 582k to 438k is not insignificant.

You don't know, and if the powers that be get their wishes you'll never know.

Here in México, I know first hand of 3 cases recorded as Kung-Flu deaths that weren't:

Cancer, Heart attack and a bullet to the head.

But they were cremating the bodies of those recorded as Kung-Flu deaths, so WE will never know, we won't have a way to do an audit.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Thor's Nads

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 07, 2021, 06:35:19 AM
Really?
medicalkidnap.com?
Really?
If you can't tell that is a fake news site filled with conspiracy nutter bullshit, you're definitely past help.

Yeah, it's all nutty conspiracy theory until years later it turns out to be true. Like McCarthy seeing communists every where...because there were!

Now, I don't know anything about medicalkidnap.com they may be nutters, I file that kind of stuff in the part of my brain that says maybe/maybe not.  I'm just saying.

Certainly, this vaccine was rushed. Problems are being reported. I'm still going to get one, I'm no anti-vaxxer though I want the J&J once it is cleared again.
Gen-Xtra

SHARK

Quote from: thomden on April 20, 2021, 03:54:17 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on April 07, 2021, 06:35:19 AM
Really?
medicalkidnap.com?
Really?
If you can't tell that is a fake news site filled with conspiracy nutter bullshit, you're definitely past help.

Yeah, it's all nutty conspiracy theory until years later it turns out to be true. Like McCarthy seeing communists every where...because there were!

Now, I don't know anything about medicalkidnap.com they may be nutters, I file that kind of stuff in the part of my brain that says maybe/maybe not.  I'm just saying.

Certainly, this vaccine was rushed. Problems are being reported. I'm still going to get one, I'm no anti-vaxxer though I want the J&J once it is cleared again.

Greetings!

That's right. Always remember--Senator McCarthy was RIGHT! He was a patriot, and a true American hero, trying to save America from the cock-sucking Communists.

Semper Fidelis,

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McCarthy never had an opinion Roy Cohn didn't fuck into him.
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Brad

It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.