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Author Topic: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!  (Read 16122 times)

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #210 on: May 14, 2021, 11:52:01 PM »

If photos of cards on electronic devices are sufficient proof of vaccination, then it will be fairly easy for the dishonest to fake it instead of take it.
You know, I'm pretty sure I've never seen anyone say that forging papers to escape Nazi Germany was dishonest. It's funny how that word only gets applied when someone disapproves of something.
So what other documents do you feel it's OK to forge? Is it OK to forge birth certificates or other proof of citizenship? How about faking travel credentials? Maybe bogus professional credentials are OK too?
When you sign up to a website, do you always read the terms & conditions before checking the box that says you read the terms & conditions?

And I don't see anyone in the news who says it's dishonest for immigrants to stay illegally in a country they entered illegally, which is a significantly higher level of moral turpitude than protecting your private health information.
There are some pieces of health information that are mandatory to report. Not all of it is guaranteed privacy, especially not when it involves certain communicable diseases and the vaccination against such.
We're not talking about people who are infected.
Do all of the people we are talking about have the cards to prove that?
Thanks to the internet and home printers, yes.

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #211 on: May 14, 2021, 11:53:41 PM »
Do all of the people we are talking about have the cards to prove that?

You’ll need it to claim your free beer or cheese burger.
Or a million dollars!

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #212 on: May 15, 2021, 12:02:03 AM »
If photos of cards on electronic devices are sufficient proof of vaccination, then it will be fairly easy for the dishonest to fake it instead of take it.

Seems like a bad idea since it's being treated as a federal crime (despite no proof of being infected, no proof of infecting anyone, and no actual laws requiring vaccination).

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #213 on: May 15, 2021, 12:06:12 AM »
Yeah, I mean I faked up some screenshots of 'proof of vaccination' a couple days ago and got into the public library at 3 PM today no problem. They seem to be one of the few places locally that's sufficiently enamored of issuing fascist dictates to require one, and I wanted to take the card for a 'test run' before using it for anything important.

Didn't get busted this time, so I think I'm willing to risk doing it again in the future.

They didn't have cheeseburgers, but the blue haired SS official did give me an 'adult' snack pack. I should have gone with the kids one, this one has gross stuff like hummus and prune juice :/

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #214 on: May 15, 2021, 01:48:47 AM »

If photos of cards on electronic devices are sufficient proof of vaccination, then it will be fairly easy for the dishonest to fake it instead of take it.
You know, I'm pretty sure I've never seen anyone say that forging papers to escape Nazi Germany was dishonest. It's funny how that word only gets applied when someone disapproves of something.

There was one: a Portuguese consul  Aristides de Sousa Mendes.
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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #215 on: May 15, 2021, 12:52:55 PM »
papers please clone but just for vax cards. I'd play it
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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #216 on: May 15, 2021, 05:37:19 PM »

If photos of cards on electronic devices are sufficient proof of vaccination, then it will be fairly easy for the dishonest to fake it instead of take it.
You know, I'm pretty sure I've never seen anyone say that forging papers to escape Nazi Germany was dishonest. It's funny how that word only gets applied when someone disapproves of something.

There was one: a Portuguese consul  Aristides de Sousa Mendes.
He made the mistake of opposing Nazism before it was popular to do so. Never try to out anti-Nazi the cool kids, they can be vicious when someone trends early.

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #217 on: May 15, 2021, 07:29:00 PM »
I don't think the government is the primary problem. We already have a very effective universal tracking system from corporations. Between our smart phones and credit cards and social media, corporations already have an extremely effective tracking system for most people - and most people simply don't care. As soon as I buy something with my credit card, I start to see ads for that in various applications.

I think it's only because of HIPAA that this doesn't also happen with my health care.

I think there needs to be greater cross-partisan effort to enact more privacy restrictions - like some of the EU restrictions, or ideally going even further.

I agree partially, although I don't think there is a significant difference between government and corporations at this point. High level corporate/NGO executives have a revolving door with governmental positions & vice-versa.
The government funds, protects and provides legal cover for illegal & destructive corporate behavior. Simultaneously, government is laundering actions that it's illegal for them to do directly to corporations. This is an incestuous and mutually beneficial relationship for a self-appointed elite class of sociopaths.

The problem with any legal attempts at fixing the problem is that the people in charge only nominally care about the law. They were happy to cheat the election, they are happily destroying freedom of speech, will happily destroy the right to bear arms, are already illegally using surveillance on the entire US population, illegally detaining & torturing people from Jan 6th rally, etc. The government is happily coordinating the vaccine passport business for their own benefit because even if they aren't directly instituting it, you know that IBM/Google/Microsoft/etc. will be directly handing over that data to "law enforcement" whenever the government wants to go after a person they don't like.

Suppressing freedom of speech, illegal detainment, and surveillance have *always* been stuff that the U.S. government has periodically engaged in for centuries. It's all a question of degree, and how unpopular it makes politicians to engage in it. The larger a program becomes, the more likely that someone will whistle-blow about it - and possibly how much political blowback it causes. Hoover's FBI engaged in all sorts of illegal and quasi-legal activity, only nominally caring about the law. Free speech has frequently been endangered, and has always required vigilance to support.

It usually works best against targets that are unpopular at the time.

Today, the landscape has changed because there is so much data available, and also in how hyper-partisan our politics has become. It seems really difficult to get anything bipartisan passed these days, and any violation in privacy is viewed mostly only through a lens of "how does it help my party". It's interesting to me how opinion has shifted so on Edward Snowden and Wikileaks.

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #218 on: May 16, 2021, 08:08:18 PM »
McDonald's to use packaging to promote COVID-19 vaccines

https://www.today.com/food/mcdonald-s-encouraging-customers-get-vaccinated-t218032

Setting aside the obvious jokes about a fast food joint reccomending a vaccine for a virus that has been linked to increased complications due to obesity...

What makes the McDonald's Corporation qualified to comment on vaccinations?
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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #219 on: May 16, 2021, 08:54:02 PM »
McDonald's to use packaging to promote COVID-19 vaccines

https://www.today.com/food/mcdonald-s-encouraging-customers-get-vaccinated-t218032

Setting aside the obvious jokes about a fast food joint reccomending a vaccine for a virus that has been linked to increased complications due to obesity...

What makes the McDonald's Corporation qualified to comment on vaccinations?
  I think it i$ probably $omething they feel they have a  lot of and $ee it as their repon$ibility to comment on vaccination$.   I will give it $ome thought and $ee if I can figure out what they think qualifie$ them to $peak up.

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #220 on: May 16, 2021, 10:29:00 PM »
I'm tempted to buy one of those fries and then complain there was a syringe in it.

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #221 on: May 16, 2021, 10:45:56 PM »
McDonald's to use packaging to promote COVID-19 vaccines

https://www.today.com/food/mcdonald-s-encouraging-customers-get-vaccinated-t218032

Setting aside the obvious jokes about a fast food joint reccomending a vaccine for a virus that has been linked to increased complications due to obesity...

What makes the McDonald's Corporation qualified to comment on vaccinations?
I'd find it more fitting to hear that Chipotle was pushing Hepatitis A vaccines.

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #222 on: May 17, 2021, 11:18:49 PM »
Get the vaccine and get a free hamburger, you stupid fat sheep!

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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #223 on: May 18, 2021, 03:35:36 AM »
I'm tempted to buy one of those fries and then complain there was a syringe in it.

why would you comaon about a free syringe. It maybe has heroin or other good shit inside. Worst case it's empty and you can use it for a free embolism on someone you hate
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Re: Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!
« Reply #224 on: May 25, 2021, 08:59:50 PM »
https://archive.org/details/vaccinationcurse00peeb/mode/2up

Oh look...do these dumbfuck communists just continually recycle crap whenever they figure people forgot about previous failed attempts? It's like the Spanish prisoner scam that's probably been around for literally thousands of years. "No no no, seriously, this is totally legit, I'm gonna get a million dollars!"
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