Please post your selfies with proof of vaccination!

[KingCheops]

Spinachcat mat sound insane but there's some truth behind those crazed ramblings. There's been an ongoing concern in EU countries regarding the AZ with governments stopping the use of it. Up until this week the UK Brexit nutters have said that it's just the EU hating Britain because reasons but now it's being questioned for under 30's.

So there's no real government cover-up, most involved  governments seem to have taken it seriously, just some weird nationalism from the UK government and it's being investigated. It's actually old news. The general consensus is that vaccination remains a good thing and anti-vaxxers like Spinachcat are nutters.

Vaccination IS a good thing...

Being used as a guinea pig without economic gain, with the pharmaceutical having total immunity not so much.

Just to be clear, not a single one of the vaccines has completed their tests and trials before being deployed for mass use.

You don't need to be an anti-vaxxer to think this might not be a good thing or that there might be serious side effects down the line.

But you do need to be a dunce to think all is hunky dory and the government would never lie nor would the big corporations selling half assed products as if it were fully developed and tested ones.

I mean if my family could sue and get the George Floyd payday for one of us dying from their dodgy vaccines then sure.  If we just all have to literally die at the altar of Pharma profits then no thanks.

[SHARK]

Spinachcat mat sound insane but there's some truth behind those crazed ramblings. There's been an ongoing concern in EU countries regarding the AZ with governments stopping the use of it. Up until this week the UK Brexit nutters have said that it's just the EU hating Britain because reasons but now it's being questioned for under 30's.

So there's no real government cover-up, most involved  governments seem to have taken it seriously, just some weird nationalism from the UK government and it's being investigated. It's actually old news. The general consensus is that vaccination remains a good thing and anti-vaxxers like Spinachcat are nutters.

Vaccination IS a good thing...

Being used as a guinea pig without economic gain, with the pharmaceutical having total immunity not so much.

Just to be clear, not a single one of the vaccines has completed their tests and trials before being deployed for mass use.

You don't need to be an anti-vaxxer to think this might not be a good thing or that there might be serious side effects down the line.

But you do need to be a dunce to think all is hunky dory and the government would never lie nor would the big corporations selling half assed products as if it were fully developed and tested ones.

Greetings!

Exactly, Geeky! As usual, you and I are on the same page.

I haven't gotten the fucking vaccine, and do not intend to, for precisely the reasons you mentioned. I also haven't gotten the damned Flu vaccination, either. When I was in the Corps, I got shots and juices for all kinds of viruses and diseases.

That was plenty, I can tell you. *laughing*

Nowadays, I just work through the Flu or Bronchitis, which is usually what I end up getting, because yeah, I have permanently weakened lungs from getting severe Pneumonia...when I was in the Corps. I'm just not worried about the Flu, Bronchitis, or the China virus.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[GeekyBugle]

Spinachcat mat sound insane but there's some truth behind those crazed ramblings. There's been an ongoing concern in EU countries regarding the AZ with governments stopping the use of it. Up until this week the UK Brexit nutters have said that it's just the EU hating Britain because reasons but now it's being questioned for under 30's.

So there's no real government cover-up, most involved  governments seem to have taken it seriously, just some weird nationalism from the UK government and it's being investigated. It's actually old news. The general consensus is that vaccination remains a good thing and anti-vaxxers like Spinachcat are nutters.

Vaccination IS a good thing...

Being used as a guinea pig without economic gain, with the pharmaceutical having total immunity not so much.

Just to be clear, not a single one of the vaccines has completed their tests and trials before being deployed for mass use.

You don't need to be an anti-vaxxer to think this might not be a good thing or that there might be serious side effects down the line.

But you do need to be a dunce to think all is hunky dory and the government would never lie nor would the big corporations selling half assed products as if it were fully developed and tested ones.

I mean if my family could sue and get the George Floyd payday for one of us dying from their dodgy vaccines then sure.  If we just all have to literally die at the altar of Pharma profits then no thanks.

Exactly, I nor my family can sue either the pharmaceutical nor the government, one because was granted immunity by the second and the other because "EMERGENCY!"

Greetings!

Exactly, Geeky! As usual, you and I are on the same page.

I haven't gotten the fucking vaccine, and do not intend to, for precisely the reasons you mentioned. I also haven't gotten the damned Flu vaccination, either. When I was in the Corps, I got shots and juices for all kinds of viruses and diseases.

That was plenty, I can tell you. *laughing*

Nowadays, I just work through the Flu or Bronchitis, which is usually what I end up getting, because yeah, I have permanently weakened lungs from getting severe Pneumonia...when I was in the Corps. I'm just not worried about the Flu, Bronchitis, or the China virus.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Well, I mean, if you're on the at risk population, meaning over 65 and with co-morbidity...

Else, fuck them in the *

[Shasarak]

I guess that means there is more Trump vaccine for me then.

Of course the way that the stupid ass government is rolling things out, that will be in six months.

[GeekyBugle]

Womp, womp.

[This Guy]

Womp, womp.

Damn dude that's fucked up why would you link that.

[Snowman0147]

The video is unavailable Geeky.

[GeekyBugle]

The video is unavailable Geeky.

Try using a vpn, I can see it just fine.

[Brad]

The general consensus

Consensus
Science

Pick one

[Garry G]

The scientific consensus

[Brad]

The scientific consensus

Oh so Galileo was wrong? I mean, consensus and all that.

[Garry G]

I haven't checked the Churches opinion.

Actually I'm being unfair. Are you saying that Spinachcat is the Galileo of anti-vaxxers? That he's fighting against those not using the scientific method?

[Brad]

I haven't checked the Churches opinion.

Actually I'm being unfair. Are you saying that Spinachcat is the Galileo of anti-vaxxers? That he's fighting against those not using the scientific method?

Imagine posting this and expecting to be taken seriously.

[jhkim]

The scientific consensus

Oh so Galileo was wrong? I mean, consensus and all that.

Galileo was right about many things, and he was wrong about a few as well. Likewise, the current scientific consensus has been wrong about things in the past. Science isn't perfect.

But historically, the scientific mainstream has always been correct *vastly* more often than fringe scientists who claim that it's all a hoax. Of course, each time, the fringe scientists will say "Well, mainstream science has been right *before* but this time it's different." That's been true in every decade, whether it's the 1890s or the 1960s or now.

Back in the 1960s, the leftists hippies were all about saying how science was just a tool for "The Man" to fool the populace. And in a handful of cases, maybe they were right. But overall, they were hugely wrong.

Specifically for the case of covid-19, it's something where governments and scientists of vastly different countries all agree on most points - from Israel to Germany to Brazil to South Korea to the U.S. Imagining that all of those governments would cooperate together on a hoax seems quite a stretch.

[Pat]

Specifically for the case of covid-19, it's something where governments and scientists of vastly different countries all agree on most points - from Israel to Germany to Brazil to South Korea to the U.S. Imagining that all of those governments would cooperate together on a hoax seems quite a stretch.

You're conflating governments and scientists. They're not the same thing. Covid-19 is a good of example of how governments imposed mandates that were against the scientific consensus.

And there's no need to hypothesize any kind of secretive cabal. Governments all tend to act in ways that increase their power. They do this independently, on their own. They also, particularly but not exclusively in democratic countries, feel immense pressure to "do something" when there's a crisis. This is a relatively new phenomenon, only going back about a century. Politicians also tend to suffer severe negative consequences if they underreact, and no negative consequences if they overreact. This encourages them to push through strong measures, regardless of their efficacy.