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Oh man, that is not only misleading, but pretty damn childish. "More oxygen on Earth" no man we were arguing the usefulness of growing algae vs planting redwoods, and I argued that terrestrial plants bind carbon for longer (redwoods being the most efficient land plants in this regard).


And the higher volume of algae means that more carbon is bound by that than redwoods.


Really, it isn't that difficult to understand.....
"Higher volume of algae". I think you mean growth rate. Apparently it is difficult to understand for some :D

Either way, bringing that up in this thread is pretty ridiculous.

AND: The point with the hentai is not really what it is about, but how controversial it was. 

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"Higher volume of algae". I think you mean growth rate. Apparently it is difficult to understand for some :D 


Does a higher growth rate not equal more volume? You are measuring the change in amount (volume) over time....



AND: The point with the hentai is not really what it is about, but how controversial it was.


Oh, for fuck's sake. It was a comparison of two pieces of media, so it helps to understand what those two things were about.
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"Higher volume of algae". I think you mean growth rate. Apparently it is difficult to understand for some :D 


Does a higher growth rate not equal more volume? You are measuring the change in amount (volume) over time....


No, it doesn't. Amount of carbon absorbed depends on growth of mass over time. And no, mass is not the same as volume. And no, even so, that's not the only thing that matters (because algae break down fast while wood does not). But why did you bring this up again just to show that you still don't get it? It just seems like a petty thing to do.

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"Higher volume of algae". I think you mean growth rate. Apparently it is difficult to understand for some :D 


Does a higher growth rate not equal more volume? You are measuring the change in amount (volume) over time....


No, it doesn't. Amount of carbon absorbed depends on growth of mass over time. And no, mass is not the same as volume. And no, even so, that's not the only thing that matters (because algae break down fast while wood does not). But why did you bring this up again just to show that you still don't get it? It just seems like a petty thing to do.


Algae grows faster than Redwoods, so you have more of it even when it breaks down.


You are just mad because the pond scum is better performing than your phallic California Redwoods.
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“Phallic” redwoods  ;D


Oh boy, petty and obsessive it is then.

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Penthouse + Algae + Redwoods + Hentai by page 2.

Yup, this is the GREATEST forum ever to exist.

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Penthouse + Algae + Redwoods + Hentai by page 2.

Yup, this is the GREATEST forum ever to exist.


All this Redwood talk is making me hard.

I see myself out with that pun.

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Penthouse + Algae + Redwoods + Hentai by page 2.

Yup, this is the GREATEST forum ever to exist.


All this Redwood talk is making me hard.

I see myself out with that pun.
Redwood should be the stage name of a Native American porn star.

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Redwood should be the stage name of a Native American porn star.


A manly Native American porn star at that.  I mean it literally demands it.

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Jeff, Snowman.


Did you actually understand what I said or did you get confused because I included too many clauses in one sentence?


I’ll repeat myself. This time I will use simple grammar.


Defenders of Cuties say that it is art because it has a moral message. Despite it exploiting children.


Metamorphosis has a moral message. It is blatantly exploitative. Nobody claims it has artistic merit. Especially not leftists.


Both are exploitative. Both have moral messages.


Why the fuck do leftists defend Cuties? Why the do leftists NOT defend Metamorphosis?


It doesn’t matter whether real children are involved or not. My argument is about artistic value. Both are horribly exploitative. Both try to shoehorn moral messages. Both should be condemned for exploitation, albeit for different reasons and in different amounts.


Do you understand my point? Or are you still stuck on “you cannot compare real child porn to drawn child porn in any way whatsoever”?


All of this is really tangential to my original point. My original point is that I hate all political parties because they’re equally stupid. I’ve watched many thousands of hours of news and read thousands of articles to come to that conclusion.

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Redwood should be the stage name of a Native American porn star.


A manly Native American porn star at that.  I mean it literally demands it.
Only problem with "Redwood" is that it's a softwood. I hear hardwood is more popular.  :P

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Jeff, Snowman.


Did you actually understand what I said or did you get confused because I included too many clauses in one sentence?


I’ll repeat myself. This time I will use simple grammar.


Defenders of Cuties say that it is art because it has a moral message. Despite it exploiting children.


Metamorphosis has a moral message. It is blatantly exploitative. Nobody claims it has artistic merit. Especially not leftists.


Both are exploitative. Both have moral messages.


Why the fuck do leftists defend Cuties? Why the do leftists NOT defend Metamorphosis?


It doesn’t matter whether real children are involved or not. My argument is about artistic value. Both are horribly exploitative. Both try to shoehorn moral messages. Both should be condemned for exploitation, albeit for different reasons and in different amounts.


Do you understand my point? Or are you still stuck on “you cannot compare real child porn to drawn child porn in any way whatsoever”?


All of this is really tangential to my original point. My original point is that I hate all political parties because they’re equally stupid. I’ve watched many thousands of hours of news and read thousands of articles to come to that conclusion.


Your missing my point.  While I did highlight the hypocrisy that is going on with the left that wasn't the main point.


My main point for you is that you compared a cartoon where the possible worst thing that can happen to the vast majority of humanity is that they might get offended.  Seriously who is exploited?  A fake cartoon teenager?  She isn't even real.  Pure fantasy and your saying it is as bad as Cuties.  At least that is the impression your leaving with.


Those girls in Cuties are real breathing human beings with thoughts, dreams, and feelings of their own.  Their exploitation is very real, very destructive, and leads to long term suffering. 


The two cannot even be compared because they are no where near the same level.  Seriously cartoons are cartoons and real life is real life.  If you cannot understand this simple truth you need professional help.

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Jeff, Snowman.


Did you actually understand what I said or did you get confused because I included too many clauses in one sentence?


I’ll repeat myself. This time I will use simple grammar.


Defenders of Cuties say that it is art because it has a moral message. Despite it exploiting children.


Metamorphosis has a moral message. It is blatantly exploitative. Nobody claims it has artistic merit. Especially not leftists.


Both are exploitative. Both have moral messages.


Why the fuck do leftists defend Cuties? Why the do leftists NOT defend Metamorphosis?


It doesn’t matter whether real children are involved or not. My argument is about artistic value. Both are horribly exploitative. Both try to shoehorn moral messages. Both should be condemned for exploitation, albeit for different reasons and in different amounts.


Do you understand my point? Or are you still stuck on “you cannot compare real child porn to drawn child porn in any way whatsoever”?


All of this is really tangential to my original point. My original point is that I hate all political parties because they’re equally stupid. I’ve watched many thousands of hours of news and read thousands of articles to come to that conclusion.


And I will return the favor by using simple language for you since you aren't getting my point.


In Cuties, the exploitation is being blamed on Netflix and the Director because the characters are pretty unconscious of being exploited.


In hentai Metamorphosis, the exploitation was desired and pursued by the character being exploited.

Of course Leftists are going to say that hentai Metamorphosis is worse than Cuties because that piece of media shows the consequences of the main character's poor decisions and Leftists think that their personal actions never have bad consequences.

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Redwood should be the stage name of a Native American porn star.


A manly Native American porn star at that.  I mean it literally demands it.
Only problem with "Redwood" is that it's a softwood. I hear hardwood is more popular.  :P


You know, there has been research into using algae to combat erectile dysfunction.....


https://www.hindawi.com/journals/omcl/2020/3293065/


https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2014/121396/


Algae, putting the woody back in your soft wood Redwood.....
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Jeff, Snowman.


Did you actually understand what I said or did you get confused because I included too many clauses in one sentence?


I’ll repeat myself. This time I will use simple grammar.


Defenders of Cuties say that it is art because it has a moral message. Despite it exploiting children.


Metamorphosis has a moral message. It is blatantly exploitative. Nobody claims it has artistic merit. Especially not leftists.


Both are exploitative. Both have moral messages.


Why the fuck do leftists defend Cuties? Why the do leftists NOT defend Metamorphosis?


It doesn’t matter whether real children are involved or not. My argument is about artistic value. Both are horribly exploitative. Both try to shoehorn moral messages. Both should be condemned for exploitation, albeit for different reasons and in different amounts.


Do you understand my point? Or are you still stuck on “you cannot compare real child porn to drawn child porn in any way whatsoever”?


All of this is really tangential to my original point. My original point is that I hate all political parties because they’re equally stupid. I’ve watched many thousands of hours of news and read thousands of articles to come to that conclusion.


Your missing my point.  While I did highlight the hypocrisy that is going on with the left that wasn't the main point.


My main point for you is that you compared a cartoon where the possible worst thing that can happen to the vast majority of humanity is that they might get offended.  Seriously who is exploited?  A fake cartoon teenager?  She isn't even real.  Pure fantasy and your saying it is as bad as Cuties.  At least that is the impression your leaving with.


Those girls in Cuties are real breathing human beings with thoughts, dreams, and feelings of their own.  Their exploitation is very real, very destructive, and leads to long term suffering. 


The two cannot even be compared because they are no where near the same level.  Seriously cartoons are cartoons and real life is real life.  If you cannot understand this simple truth you need professional help.


You got me wrong. I don’t contest that there is a big difference between real and fake children.


My point is this: Why is real child porn being hailed as progressive, but FAKE child porn is not?


Jeff, Snowman.


Did you actually understand what I said or did you get confused because I included too many clauses in one sentence?


I’ll repeat myself. This time I will use simple grammar.


Defenders of Cuties say that it is art because it has a moral message. Despite it exploiting children.


Metamorphosis has a moral message. It is blatantly exploitative. Nobody claims it has artistic merit. Especially not leftists.


Both are exploitative. Both have moral messages.


Why the fuck do leftists defend Cuties? Why the do leftists NOT defend Metamorphosis?


It doesn’t matter whether real children are involved or not. My argument is about artistic value. Both are horribly exploitative. Both try to shoehorn moral messages. Both should be condemned for exploitation, albeit for different reasons and in different amounts.


Do you understand my point? Or are you still stuck on “you cannot compare real child porn to drawn child porn in any way whatsoever”?


All of this is really tangential to my original point. My original point is that I hate all political parties because they’re equally stupid. I’ve watched many thousands of hours of news and read thousands of articles to come to that conclusion.


And I will return the favor by using simple language for you since you aren't getting my point.


In Cuties, the exploitation is being blamed on Netflix and the Director because the characters are pretty unconscious of being exploited.


In hentai Metamorphosis, the exploitation was desired and pursued by the character being exploited.

Of course Leftists are going to say that hentai Metamorphosis is worse than Cuties because that piece of media shows the consequences of the main character's poor decisions and Leftists think that their personal actions never have bad consequences.




I don’t contest that either.

WHY do leftists think real child porn is progressive, but FAKE child porn is not?