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I'm kind of new here, and I think I will stop posting on political topics, in fact I deleted my most recent comment. I used to discuss politics at RPGnet until, like most people here, I got disgusted and left. I voted Libertarian this year (arriving from the Left as you probably all figured out) and after the election I decided to stick to libertarian-leaning sites to preserve my sanity.

I was under the impression that theRPGpundit was a libertarian of some sort, however in my opinion, when it comes to politics this is just another pro-Trump community (albeit with a few dissenters) fighting the same old culture wars that have made every other political forum on the internet intolerable over the past year. And pro-Trump =/= libertarian in case there was any confusion about that.  

Living as I am in extreme blue-state territory, I've been witnessing this for the past eight years - shit that liberals would never have tolerated under Dubya is basically accepted as long as it's "their guy" Obama doing the evil shit. Sure, they pay lip service to their principles, but in practice they look the other way. And now you see Trump followers doing the same thing. Breitbart is RPGnet through the looking glass, the worst sort of echo chamber with maybe an occasional token deviation. The two-party duopoly has completed infected us all and there seems to be no end in sight.

In closing, let me say that this is clearly one dude's site, and so the quality of the forum is only as good as the quality of the M.C. hosting the forum. Pundit is a great M.C. for RPG discussion, probably the best on the internet. I find the discussion of esoteric and religious subjects quite interesting. When it comes to politics, though, it's too much standard culture war bullshit for my taste, but thanks for letting me hang out for a while after the crazy election year came to an end and I needed to hash out some stuff with random people online. It actually was very educational and this site, collectively with a few others that I've visited over the past two months, made me realize that some of my opinions were quite biased and needed revising. So there's that. Happy new year.

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Really, Tangency always taints rpg.net.  I occasionally forget and wander back into Tangency and get reminded.  I always miss the place it was.  You always have to watch your subtext on the rest of the site because the attack dogs are always waiting and watching.  Sometimes I wonder if they have a secret subforum or a watch list for posters they want to harass.  Certainly some of the mods are as biased and grudge holding as trolls get.

I can't blame The Pundit for not wanting it to happen to his site, though at times his getting to talk about what he wants and shut down conversation when he wants feels pretty one sided.
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Quote from: David Johansen;938166
Really, Tangency always taints rpg.net.  I occasionally forget and wander back into Tangency and get reminded.  I always miss the place it was.  You always have to watch your subtext on the rest of the site because the attack dogs are always waiting and watching.  Sometimes I wonder if they have a secret subforum or a watch list for posters they want to harass.  Certainly some of the mods are as biased and grudge holding as trolls get.

I sort of think that Tangent is specifically there to bait people into saying things, showing their hand, and then getting them booted.

"LOOK WOMEN!  WE FOUND A MEANIE PIG GAMERGOOTER ALT-RIGHT BIGOT!  LOOK HOW WE KICK THEM OUT!  BUY OUR STUFF AND SUPPORT US AND TOUCH OUR WEENIES!"

Yeah.  I love it.
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Yeah, see, I allow political discussion on my sub-forum about topics I like because I like talking about politics sometime. And because ironically I find this is one of the few sites where I can do so where it isn't either a leftist repression-fest or a right-wing echo chamber. This thread should not be interpreted as saying "if you're left-wing you shouldn't come argue on the political threads', IF what you want is a good argument! Just that if you don't actually want to argue about politics, then you shouldn't come do that.

But I don't just want my sub-forum (or any other part of this forum) to turn into a political-discussion area. I don't think that there NEEDS to be political discussion on an RPG forum in principle or anything like that.  The Pundit's Forum is where I get to talk about things I want to talk about. It's that simple. So I don't feel any reason or motive to make it into a general-politics forum for topics that don't catch my fancy. That's just how I've chosen to set it up. On this whole site, this subforum is the one place that really is my own personal playground. It was never meant to be anything other than that, as the description of the sub-forum (I think) makes very clear.
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Quote from: ningauble;938132
I was under the impression that theRPGpundit was a libertarian of some sort, however in my opinion, when it comes to politics this is just another pro-Trump community (albeit with a few dissenters) fighting the same old culture wars that have made every other political forum on the internet intolerable over the past year. And pro-Trump =/= libertarian in case there was any confusion about that.  

There seems to be, yes.

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To be fair, I post here frequently, and I fucking despise Trump. So far, I've had nothing bad happen to me, unlike on RPG.net, where I was literally banned for not liking Goth. I shit you not.

I didn't even say or do anything political to offend Big Purple's delicate political sensibilities, all I said was that Goth sucks and Darren MacLerran banned me for it. Turns out Mr. MacLerran is a wrist-cutting pansy who voluntarily listens to Sisters of Mercy and Type O Negative. And he can't stand differing opinions for some bizarre reason.

Don't believe me? Here's the evidence below...

https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?699801-Infraction-for-Doctor-Samuel-Elric-17)-Permanent-Ban&

Pundit may support a shitty choice for President, but he at least tolerates people who disagree with him. So I'll vouch for him over a jackass like Darren MacLerran or the other Goth, Punk, and Commie shitheads at RPG.net
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Quote from: Doc Sammy;938542
Pundit may support a shitty choice for President, but he at least tolerates people who disagree with him. So I'll vouch for him over a jackass like Darren MacLerran or the other Goth, Punk, and Commie shitheads at RPG.net

Indeed.

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Quote from: Doc Sammy;938542
Pundit may support a shitty choice for President, but he at least tolerates people who disagree with him. So I'll vouch for him over a jackass like Darren MacLerran or the other Goth, Punk, and Commie shitheads at RPG.net

This is true.  Quite a few things I've had differences with Mr. Pundit about, the management of his forum and the outright threat of shutting down threads if topics aren't specifically about games- but at least he's not banning people for petty horse-shit.

On 'the other site' they're still banning people for asking why they were told to shut up by an admin.  Even if you question why via PM, you get banned.  WTF.

And I've been on a variety of forums, I've never once seen one that doesn't allow you to question Admin/Mod action at all.

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Ok I get it this is your space you can do what you want.  But I want to talk politics with people who role dice for fun with out having to caper for your amusement.  I don't know why I want to argue with crusader and his ilk its bad for my blood pressure but I do.  I mean if I don't tell him he'll keep being wrong:)

You have given yourself absolute and arbitry censorship powers, its lame.

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You have given yourself absolute and arbitry censorship powers, its lame.

It is also his forum, dumbass.
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I don't know why I want to argue with crusader and his ilk its bad for my blood pressure but I do.

That's your problem, not the site's.

Also he's been banned, which... ah forget it.

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It is also his forum, dumbass.

Poor defense, as it's the same one the #CtrlLeft uses when they stop commercial sites from distributing media they don't like through economic threats.

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Poor defense, as it's the same one the #CtrlLeft uses when they stop commercial sites from distributing media they don't like through economic threats.

Mm, there are few arguments more infuriating than, "It's only censorship if it's a government doing it!"

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Poor defense, as it's the same one the #CtrlLeft uses when they stop commercial sites from distributing media they don't like through economic threats.

You lost me with that analogy.
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Mm, there are few arguments more infuriating than, "It's only censorship if it's a government doing it!"

Thats because its not an argument, its an excuse.
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That's your problem, not the site's.

Also he's been banned, which... ah forget it.



Poor defense, as it's the same one the #CtrlLeft uses when they stop commercial sites from distributing media they don't like through economic threats.

I see that.  Anyone else get the boot?