News from México or the road to Venezuela 2.0

[Garry G]

Except Jesus isn't a socialist. Nor is he a capitalist.

Absolutely not but different readings can be taken.

[Ghostmaker]

Absolutely not but different readings can be taken.

Yeah, creative interpretations allow for all sorts of fascinating results.

[Garry G]

Yeah, creative interpretations allow for all sorts of fascinating results.

I don't know. I mean he is angry at moneylenders taking advantage of people in a place that's spiritually important to them. It's not a massive leap.

[RandyB]

Absolutely not but different readings can be taken.

Yeah, creative interpretations allow for all sorts of fascinating results.

And not all interpretations and readings are equally valid. Most are not valid at all.

[Garry G]

And not all interpretations and readings are equally valid. Most are not valid at all.

Absolutely, your interpretation may be completely invalid. In the spirit of conversation I wouldn't immediately jump to that but it's a fair option.

[Ghostmaker]

Absolutely, your interpretation may be completely invalid. In the spirit of conversation I wouldn't immediately jump to that but it's a fair option.

So your viewpoint is that Jesus's anger over the moneylenders was because of socialist views.

It had nothing to do with profaning a place of worship.

Is that your case?

[Garry G]

So your viewpoint is that Jesus's anger over the moneylenders was because of socialist views.

It had nothing to do with profaning a place of worship.

Is that your case?

You could argue that usury is in itself ungodly and bringing it into the house of God was particularly vile. I'm not sure that's a socialist view as such but hey Jesus.

To be fair I'm an atheist Catholic so hey Jesus.

[RandyB]

You could argue that usury is in itself ungodly and bringing it into the house of God was particularly vile. I'm not sure that's a socialist view as such but hey Jesus.

To be fair I'm an atheist Catholic so hey Jesus.

I'll buy that argument - and it's not a socialist view.

And I'm not an atheist.

[Shrieking Banshee]

The case is that Jews are to be charitable to other jews. Maybe that plays into it? Im not a christian, so I dont super know Jesus.

Whatever the case socialism, could only have worked under a person who could produce infinite resources. However socialists also hate holding themselves to any sort of ethical, cultural, or personal or outwardly standard so he still does not remain popular with said crowd.

[EOTB]

It seems bizarre to me that the moneychanger flogging is somehow attributed to someone's favored flavor of economics.  The issue was related to sanctity: what was required, what was ignored, what the purpose of sanctification was, and who was supposed to be honored by the sanctified space.  That anyone could [edit - claim to be familiar with the passage, and] see this as an economic statement, instead of economics being entirely incidental to the statement, only showcases a severe inability to discern context from a written work.

[RandyB]

It seems bizarre to me that the moneychanger flogging is somehow attributed to someone's favored flavor of economics.  The issue was related to sanctity: what was required, what was ignored, what the purpose of sanctification was, and who was supposed to be honored by the sanctified space.  That anyone could [edit - claim to be familiar with the passage, and] see this as an economic statement, instead of economics being entirely incidental to the statement, only showcases a severe inability to discern context from a written work.

Or a willful reinterpretation to support a favored conclusion. The latter is sometimes intentionally disguised as the former.

[Spinachcat]

Geeky, what's up in Mexico?

I've heard Obrador says the economy is rebounding, but is that real?  

Also what's your take on the big oil corruption scandal and the videos that have surfaced?

[GeekyBugle]

Geeky, what's up in Mexico?

I've heard Obrador says the economy is rebounding, but is that real?  

Also what's your take on the big oil corruption scandal and the videos that have surfaced?

All our government is and has always been corrupt, no surprise there.

As for the economy rebounding... sorta, kinda true. Since they are allowing some limited reopening.

[Spinachcat]

All our government is and has always been corrupt, no surprise there.

Is this scandal going to mean anything or it just Tuesday?
Or not even Tuesday because at least Tuesday has tacos.

Does AMLO still have a strong fanbase?

As for the economy rebounding... sorta, kinda true. Since they are allowing some limited reopening.

That's better than totally collapsing the economy! The Economist estimates Mexico lost 20% of its economy and I thought that sounded low.

[GeekyBugle]

Is this scandal going to mean anything or it just Tuesday?
Or not even Tuesday because at least Tuesday has tacos.

If by mean something you mean someone guilty ends in jail, probably not, if you mean the government will fold nope.

Does AMLO still have a strong fanbase?

I think so, yes, the man did what Trump and went to the small towns, those people don't have internet, and he has kept going constantly, plus he's giving his voter base free money.

That's better than totally collapsing the economy! The Economist estimates Mexico lost 20% of its economy and I thought that sounded low.

I think it's more like 50%, but only time will tell, we can't trust the media nor the government numbers so only when the train hits us we'll know what's what.