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Author Topic: News from México or the road to Venezuela 2.0  (Read 4862 times)

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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2019, 07:38:16 pm »
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And they were so hopeful back in April.

Problem is he truly has "alternative" facts. And can't do math he's stunted trying to multiply 30X8000
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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2019, 08:36:33 pm »
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Problem is he truly has "alternative" facts. And can't do math he's stunted trying to multiply 30X8000

The Twitter graph you posted shows the job creation dropping starting from June last year - prior to the election. The election in December comes about halfway through the drop - so he came in while it was dropping, and it's continued to go down. What do you think started the downturn? Also, do you have a source other than Twitter for reliable stats on the Mexican economy?

I'm not disagreeing - the economy looks in bad shape. The mainstream foreign news seems consistent (economy still shrinking), but it's hard to see details. For example, here's one article:
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Mexico received some $10 billion in foreign direct investment in the first quarter, up 7% from the same quarter last year, and inflation was slightly lower than expected in the first half of May at 4.43%.

The peso has appreciated over 6% since Lopez Obrador took office.

Still, some of the president's decisions have rattled investors, prompting concern among private sector analysts.

The International Monetary Fund on April 9 lowered Mexico's 2019 growth outlook to 1.6% from 2.1%, citing shifts in perception about policy.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-economy-gdp/mexican-economy-shrinks-in-first-quarter-economists-downgrade-outlook-idUSKCN1SU1KX

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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2019, 09:08:17 pm »
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I look forward to our high speed rail connecting San Francisco to the Yúcatan. :) Only as long as Mother Earth says we can though. ;)


I'd be more open to the high speed rail if we were connecting Seattle through Mexico City.

And if it was actually high speed.


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Yep, have you heard how people live up in the Ozarks I think?


Doc Sammy who posts here can speak in detail about the Ozarks.


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Imagine the poorest among you but not homeless, well here in México city we have (separated by just one street) McMansions to the right and huts made of cartoon boxes and recycled wood from pallets to the left.


Imagine it? I live in Los Angeles! I was doing research in the Hall of Records downtown and had to navigate through multiple tents and piss stank mats to get there, and you can see City Hall down the block!

My favorite are the mostly naked meth addicts sunbathing on the sidewalk a block from the courthouse who the cops bumrushed out of the neighborhood when the governor came for a visit. Couldn't have that on camera!

Of course, they're all back!


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Lets see how it works for them to fuck with the poorest in so many ways tho.


What do you think will happen to Mexico in the next few years?

How will the poor accept what's happening?


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Our beloved comrade leader to launch effort to create jobs in El Salvador


WTF?

I am genuinely confused. Why not focus on job creation in Mexico?

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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2019, 11:28:18 pm »
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I'd be more open to the high speed rail if we were connecting Seattle through Mexico City.

And if it was actually high speed.


No thanks we have enough commies here already, and then you also have there La Raza, although it would be fun to drop them and El Frente Nacional (Honest to God Mexican Neo-Nazis) in a desert island and see what happens, they either kill each other or do sweet sweet racist love to one another.


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Doc Sammy who posts here can speak in detail about the Ozarks.


Yeah, he could.


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Imagine it? I live in Los Angeles! I was doing research in the Hall of Records downtown and had to navigate through multiple tents and piss stank mats to get there, and you can see City Hall down the block!

My favorite are the mostly naked meth addicts sunbathing on the sidewalk a block from the courthouse who the cops bumrushed out of the neighborhood when the governor came for a visit. Couldn't have that on camera!

Of course, they're all back!


Dude those are meth addicts, I'm talking hard working people who can't afford to move (the transport price would kill them) or to build a half-decent house, smack next to The rich fucks.


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What do you think will happen to Mexico in the next few years?


It's anybody's guess, I think it all depends of how much worst things get here. We have a saying here: Mexicans are the most macho of them all, they fuck us in the ass daily without lube and we don't cry.

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How will the poor accept what's happening?


It depends on if they manage to drop their blindfold and see what these assholes are doing to our country. I don't have much hope f that tho, El Presidente has a cult of personality already going and they can always blame the market, USA, CIA, etc.


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WTF?

I am genuinely confused. Why not focus on job creation in Mexico?


Because they are fucking socialist internationalists, and because their followers are still clapping like seals anything they say/do.
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2019, 11:34:33 pm »
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The Twitter graph you posted shows the job creation dropping starting from June last year - prior to the election. The election in December comes about halfway through the drop - so he came in while it was dropping, and it's continued to go down. What do you think started the downturn? Also, do you have a source other than Twitter for reliable stats on the Mexican economy?

I'm not disagreeing - the economy looks in bad shape. The mainstream foreign news seems consistent (economy still shrinking), but it's hard to see details. For example, here's one article:

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-economy-gdp/mexican-economy-shrinks-in-first-quarter-economists-downgrade-outlook-idUSKCN1SU1KX

That graph is from the IMSS, of course the economy was already slowing down, everybody believed the socialist was going to win, and he did, if he wasn't such an idiot things might have started getting better after the elections, but he keeps on doing stupid shit, and his croonies don't help talking of nationalizing this or that, threatening industrialists if they dare criticize El Presidente, and he keeps on closing down stuff and firing lots of people.

Putting good money in PEMEX (when they should just sell it)
Taking a huge debt to cancel the NAIM because it wasn't his plan and then expending more money to build a different NAIM in a not optimal location.
And then the crime rate goes thru the roof thanks to them releasing thousands of criminals because reasons.
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2019, 12:00:17 am »
And now no more tourism promotion, because fuck the 10 million mexicans working there.

https://twitter.com/osoriochong/status/1141485945809702912
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2019, 01:19:15 pm »
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The Twitter graph you posted shows the job creation dropping starting from June last year - prior to the election. The election in December comes about halfway through the drop - so he came in while it was dropping, and it's continued to go down. What do you think started the downturn? Also, do you have a source other than Twitter for reliable stats on the Mexican economy?

I'm not disagreeing - the economy looks in bad shape. The mainstream foreign news seems consistent (economy still shrinking), but it's hard to see details. For example, here's one article:

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-economy-gdp/mexican-economy-shrinks-in-first-quarter-economists-downgrade-outlook-idUSKCN1SU1KX


https://www.elsoldemexico.com.mx/finanzas/baja-88-la-creacion-de-empleos-formales-3789168.html
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2019, 01:40:43 pm »
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https://www.elsoldemexico.com.mx/finanzas/baja-88-la-creacion-de-empleos-formales-3789168.html

Thanks. It does make me curious about the Sembrando Vida and Jóvenes Construyendo el Futuro programs. I'd be skeptical of the programs, but would still want to evaluate them fairly.

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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2019, 02:24:45 pm »
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Thanks. It does make me curious about the Sembrando Vida and Jóvenes Construyendo el Futuro programs. I'd be skeptical of the programs, but would still want to evaluate them fairly.

Those are vote buying programs, it's "free" money for the NINIs (Ni Trabaja Ni Estudia) Not Working Not Studying. Like most of the "social" programs any mexican government has implemented. Tax payers money thrown to the trash because there will never be a return of the investment either in less crime, jobless, homeless, etc. We don't have a single fucking non-leftie party, it's just a degree of how far to the left they are. Unless you count the confessional parties and I wouldn't vote for those in a million years.

EDIT: And seems like our beloved comrade leader is counting people in some of those programs as being in the work force.
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2019, 05:44:12 pm »
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Doc Sammy who posts here can speak in detail about the Ozarks.

Unless he recently moved, shouldn't he be speaking only for north-west Virginia? :( Ozarks are by Arkansas & Missouri. :) They, too, could use a bullet train to the Yúcatan (if Pacha Mama permits, of course :D ). It could be a works program under NAFTA. ;)
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2019, 06:00:41 pm »
Socialized medicine is shit, never ever let them establish it there https://www.animalpolitico.com/2019/06/salud-compra-medicinas-marcapasos/
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2019, 06:05:31 pm »
But it was a lie that the invaders had contagious diseases right? https://heraldodemexico.com.mx/pais/en-refugios-hay-varicela-sarampion/
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2019, 07:04:33 pm »
In planing stages still, our beloved comrade leader wants to associate with the reptilian Zuckerberg to create a nationalized internet provider, think of China's internet since we know Zuckerberg likes to censor people and El Presidente doesn't like people being able to criticize him.

https://www.elsoldemexico.com.mx/finanzas/amlo-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-socios-crear-empresa-de-telecomunicaciones-conectividad-internet-3784764.html
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2019, 07:28:41 pm »
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Socialized medicine is shit

Socialised medicine works pretty well actually.  It does not have the best medicines at the top but has a better over all safety net at the bottom with the added bonus of not driving you into bankruptcy just because you are sick.
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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2019, 07:33:48 pm »
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Socialised medicine works pretty well actually.  It does not have the best medicines at the top but has a better over all safety net at the bottom with the added bonus of not driving you into bankruptcy just because you are sick.

Except if you need a peacemaker and there's none because your government wants to buy them at 90 pesos. Dude we have socialized medicine here since before I was born, don't try and tell me how it works or not.
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