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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2021, 09:14:36 PM »
The woke oppose voter ID laws because it’s inordinately difficult for some people to get photo IDs.

Did they ever find someone who could not get a photo ID?

I know they were looking for one of these mythical unicorns that everyone is worried about.
It turns out that the battle over the laws actually cancels out their effect. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/21/18230009/voter-id-laws-fraud-turnout-study-research

So we don’t have reliable statistics either way. We have no evidence voter ID laws have any effect on anything. They don’t decrease turnout and they don’t decrease fraud either.

It’s just a pointless battle between evil powerhungry vampires—sorry, I mean politicians.

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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2021, 08:53:20 AM »
So we should be like everyone else when it comes to socialized healthcare, but not like everyone else when it comes to having ID for voting.

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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2021, 09:23:10 AM »
So we should be like everyone else when it comes to socialized healthcare, but not like everyone else when it comes to having ID for voting.
What if we combine those and make the ID work for both voting and accessing the socialized healthcare?

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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2021, 10:39:55 AM »
Assuming the ID follows the requirements that a drivers license or a passport does, sure, whatever. These people who supposedly cannot get an ID are going to be on some form of socialized healthcare anyway.

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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2021, 10:46:24 AM »
Greetings!

All of the Democrats constantly sobbing about people--especially minorities--all of whom are American citizens, getting official forms of ID's in which to prove their identity, is so tiresome and pathetic. No one's voting rights are being "infringed" or otherwise restricted. I have had an official form of ID since I was 16 years old in fucking high school. Since becoming an adult, I have voted in every major election, and on each such occasion, presented my ID to the appropriate election officials before proceeding to vote. If some moron fucking people cannot be bothered to get their shit together to have a fucking ID--generally essential for being a functioning adult in American society--then honestly, these people are too fucking retarded to vote. they have far more serious problems facing them immediately, on a daily basis--get their fucking ID so that they can function as an adult citizen at a minimal level.

The fucking Democrats crying about ID's and such BS can choke. Fucking corrupt pussies.

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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2021, 08:55:36 AM »
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1405217452879925251?s=20

'Pretty please, Mr. Putin, don't let your pet Russian hackers hit these critical areas.'

Jesus Christ. Fine, people didn't like Trump, but running interference for Zhou Bai-Den is just stupid.

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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2021, 10:29:19 AM »
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1405217452879925251?s=20

'Pretty please, Mr. Putin, don't let your pet Russian hackers hit these critical areas.'

Jesus Christ. Fine, people didn't like Trump, but running interference for Zhou Bai-Den is just stupid.

Hey pal!  Thanks for the list of targets!  You just saved us a bunch of tedious planning meetings.

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« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2021, 12:02:00 PM »
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1405217452879925251?s=20

'Pretty please, Mr. Putin, don't let your pet Russian hackers hit these critical areas.'

Jesus Christ. Fine, people didn't like Trump, but running interference for Zhou Bai-Den is just stupid.
That makes no sense. "Not in the face, not in the face!" isn't a position of power.

I could see a gentleman's agreement forming, where both sides tacitly agree that certain things are off limits. But that requires both sides to be hurt. US hackers taking out Moscow's grid in retaliation, for instance, and then the two leaders work out a deal to prevent that from happening again. But there have been no real consequences for Russia, and Putin still has plausible deniability. So Biden is trying to sound like a tough guy while begging for a favor. That's just off.

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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2021, 10:12:19 AM »
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1405217452879925251?s=20

'Pretty please, Mr. Putin, don't let your pet Russian hackers hit these critical areas.'

Jesus Christ. Fine, people didn't like Trump, but running interference for Zhou Bai-Den is just stupid.
That makes no sense. "Not in the face, not in the face!" isn't a position of power.

I could see a gentleman's agreement forming, where both sides tacitly agree that certain things are off limits. But that requires both sides to be hurt. US hackers taking out Moscow's grid in retaliation, for instance, and then the two leaders work out a deal to prevent that from happening again. But there have been no real consequences for Russia, and Putin still has plausible deniability. So Biden is trying to sound like a tough guy while begging for a favor. That's just off.

  Reality is Russia did not do any of the hacks on our infrastructure.  1's and 0's are not that hard a skill to come by, and tracking down a hack is not very easy to do.  The reality, no American wants to face, is some gang of goofs from anywhere could take down a whole lot of the USA or many other nations infrastructures.   It looks to me like trying to find a "visible" bad guy, same as when Osama was hiding, Saddam made a very  convenient target for a nation's ire.

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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2021, 11:30:50 AM »
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1405217452879925251?s=20

'Pretty please, Mr. Putin, don't let your pet Russian hackers hit these critical areas.'

Jesus Christ. Fine, people didn't like Trump, but running interference for Zhou Bai-Den is just stupid.
That makes no sense. "Not in the face, not in the face!" isn't a position of power.

I could see a gentleman's agreement forming, where both sides tacitly agree that certain things are off limits. But that requires both sides to be hurt. US hackers taking out Moscow's grid in retaliation, for instance, and then the two leaders work out a deal to prevent that from happening again. But there have been no real consequences for Russia, and Putin still has plausible deniability. So Biden is trying to sound like a tough guy while begging for a favor. That's just off.

  Reality is Russia did not do any of the hacks on our infrastructure.  1's and 0's are not that hard a skill to come by, and tracking down a hack is not very easy to do.  The reality, no American wants to face, is some gang of goofs from anywhere could take down a whole lot of the USA or many other nations infrastructures.   It looks to me like trying to find a "visible" bad guy, same as when Osama was hiding, Saddam made a very  convenient target for a nation's ire.
You're right, blaming Russia has become political gold. And since official sources have lost almost all credibility, their statements need to be taken with a hard Chicago's winter worth of salt. But it's also true that Russia would love to be able to mess with the US with impunity like that, so they definitely have a motive, and as you noted the investment needed to become 133t haxx0rs is much smaller than something like sending a fleet to the newly opened Arctic. So saying Russia didn't do it is too strong. The truth is we don't know.

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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2021, 01:00:16 PM »
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1405217452879925251?s=20

'Pretty please, Mr. Putin, don't let your pet Russian hackers hit these critical areas.'

Jesus Christ. Fine, people didn't like Trump, but running interference for Zhou Bai-Den is just stupid.
That makes no sense. "Not in the face, not in the face!" isn't a position of power.

I could see a gentleman's agreement forming, where both sides tacitly agree that certain things are off limits. But that requires both sides to be hurt. US hackers taking out Moscow's grid in retaliation, for instance, and then the two leaders work out a deal to prevent that from happening again. But there have been no real consequences for Russia, and Putin still has plausible deniability. So Biden is trying to sound like a tough guy while begging for a favor. That's just off.

  Reality is Russia did not do any of the hacks on our infrastructure.  1's and 0's are not that hard a skill to come by, and tracking down a hack is not very easy to do.  The reality, no American wants to face, is some gang of goofs from anywhere could take down a whole lot of the USA or many other nations infrastructures.   It looks to me like trying to find a "visible" bad guy, same as when Osama was hiding, Saddam made a very  convenient target for a nation's ire.
You're right, blaming Russia has become political gold. And since official sources have lost almost all credibility, their statements need to be taken with a hard Chicago's winter worth of salt. But it's also true that Russia would love to be able to mess with the US with impunity like that, so they definitely have a motive, and as you noted the investment needed to become 133t haxx0rs is much smaller than something like sending a fleet to the newly opened Arctic. So saying Russia didn't do it is too strong. The truth is we don't know.

   With absolutely zero evidence I am going to go with strong then.  Because we have absolutely zero evidence.

  I agree Putin likes to see the USA writhing, but the fact is, he doesnt need to do shit to see that.  The Dragon has already been poisoned.  No need to risk yourself stabbing it as it thrashes, just let it die is his likely strategy IMO.   But I guess if the USA goes full on woke, the new big enemy will be Russia, because they are Christian/White/fascist.
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Re: More Liberal Lunacy!
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2021, 11:46:15 AM »
At least when it comes to the Colonial "hack" the official story isn't just bunk, it's insultingly fake bunk. A state-funded group of hackers would never use a public exchange for storing their crypto. This wouldn't just be a rookie mistake, even I, a person who doesn't own any crypto, knows that money in an exchange isn't under your direct control.

So what's the real story, and why is the FBI lying about it?