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QuoteThe reason for de-emphasizing street protests is, first of all, that they did not work. Adam Garfinkle's revisionist history of the antiwar movement, Telltale Hearts, notes that the protests had no effect on decision makers in the Johnson administration and little effect on public opinion, except to give second thoughts to the many Americans skeptical of the war but repulsed by Abbie Hoffman. Civil rights had fewer victories after the ghetto riots started, not more.
One cannot even make a case for the street protests having had some deep cultural impact despite their political ineffectiveness, because for most participants it was nothing but a jolly interlude, after which they retired to the suburbs and a happy bourgeois life. The revolution did not come, and soon even Angela Davis grew up and got tenure.
Yet it is precisely this interlude that millennials are most determined to reenact. In the summer of 2020, when cities from Portland to Raleigh erupted in street violence and mobs looted storefronts, lobbed Molotov cocktails and tore down public monuments, journalists rushed to compare it to 1968, with Joe Biden standing in for Hubert Humphrey and Antifa in the role of the yippies. The question on everyone's mind was whether the unrest would be as bad this time as it was 50 years ago.
The answer is that it would be much worse, at least in its long-term effects, because all of the civilizational cushioning that gave boomers the leeway to act out without permanently destroying the country has been eroded. The only thing worse than a street protest that's all just fun and games is one that isn't.
Don't worry about it! PROTESTING is going to be illegal soon. So, I don' t care!
The SQUAD WILL SAVE US ALL FROM OURSELVES!!!!
Millennials are unironically the worst generation in American history.
I do find it interesting that the generation millennials hate the most is the generation that did the same thing they are doing now.
Gen-X still says fuck all y'all.
Ya know...it's true though. A lot of times people make mistake X once the new generation wasn't around to see why X was a bad idea.
I'm from New York originally, and from afar I'm watching the city slide back into the same chaos of the 60s-80s. They had this whole 'defund the police' business back in the 60s, except back then they were claiming that law enforcement was useless because you weren't addressing the 'root causes' of crime.
Quote from: Null42 on February 11, 2021, 10:17:16 PM
Ya know...it's true though. A lot of times people make mistake X once the new generation wasn't around to see why X was a bad idea.
I'm from New York originally, and from afar I'm watching the city slide back into the same chaos of the 60s-80s. They had this whole 'defund the police' business back in the 60s, except back then they were claiming that law enforcement was useless because you weren't addressing the 'root causes' of crime.
'Personal responsibility' is a dirty word to leftists. But then, they have no principles anyways, so there's not much point in bludgeoning them with their own double standard.
Quote from: Ghostmaker on February 12, 2021, 08:23:18 AM
Quote from: Null42 on February 11, 2021, 10:17:16 PM
Ya know...it's true though. A lot of times people make mistake X once the new generation wasn't around to see why X was a bad idea.
I'm from New York originally, and from afar I'm watching the city slide back into the same chaos of the 60s-80s. They had this whole 'defund the police' business back in the 60s, except back then they were claiming that law enforcement was useless because you weren't addressing the 'root causes' of crime.
'Personal responsibility' is a dirty word to leftists. But then, they have no principles anyways, so there's not much point in bludgeoning them with their own double standard.
You can't hold leftists accountable to their own rules, because by their own rules, they aren't accountable.
Quote from: Null42 on February 11, 2021, 10:17:16 PM
Ya know...it's true though. A lot of times people make mistake X once the new generation wasn't around to see why X was a bad idea.
I'm from New York originally, and from afar I'm watching the city slide back into the same chaos of the 60s-80s. They had this whole 'defund the police' business back in the 60s, except back then they were claiming that law enforcement was useless because you weren't addressing the 'root causes' of crime.
And interestingly, and apropos to the current situation, wasn't it Giuliani that brought NYC back out of the violent crime spiral? With more aggressive policing and the like?
Quote from: Mistwell on February 02, 2021, 10:50:24 AM
I do find it interesting that the generation millennials hate the most is the generation that did the same thing they are doing now.
Gen-X still says fuck all y'all.
Indeed. Although while the boomers may have been obnoxious, at least they had fun. The millennials seem to be miserable.
I'm convinced it's the smartphones and social media. Everything stupid you ever said around to torment you, especially with the rules for 'unacceptable' changing so quickly?
(and shuddemell: yup, Giuliani, though from what I've read the cops think he took all the credit for their hard work.)