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Author Topic: "Masculine" doesn't mean "acting like an animal"  (Read 3858 times)

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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2011, 06:48:32 PM »
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The first was, does he not realize that the two stereotypes he rails against are comic conventions, not serious presentations of masculinity?  
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I think it is important to recognize that sitcoms and romantic comedies are not the places to look for serious understanding of societal values.

I think that sitcoms do reflect the larger culture, and affect it as well.  

Completely out of the context of sitcoms, if I tell a stranger that a professor I work with is very "manly" or very "masculine" - then they get a certain picture of what I mean.  And that picture tends to be more like the sitcom view than any alternative.

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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2011, 06:59:04 PM »
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Completely out of the context of sitcoms, if I tell a stranger that a professor I work with is very "manly" or very "masculine" - then they get a certain picture of what I mean.  And that picture tends to be more like the sitcom view than any alternative.


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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2011, 07:05:53 PM »
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I think the Internet (to a great degree) and college (to a lesser, but still extant degree) tolerate and re-enforce extreme positions like radical feminism in a way most forums do not.

I'd think that once those people graduated, they'd find their environment less supportive of that kind of behavior and self-correct.

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Right, but I think they find it less tolerated because it is needed. I live in the asshole of Ohio, pretty close to Koltar, where racism and sexism is a way of life. I'd like to see more and stronger feminism, along with better civil rights activism.

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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2011, 07:10:54 PM »
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Right, but I think they find it less tolerated because it is needed. I live in the asshole of Ohio, pretty close to Koltar, where racism and sexism is a way of life. I'd like to see more and stronger feminism, along with better civil rights activism.


So... is Koltar living in Ohio's taint, or perhaps deep within its rectum? Perhaps I should be more understanding.
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« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2011, 07:19:54 PM »
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So... is Koltar living in Ohio's taint, or perhaps deep within its rectum? Perhaps I should be more understanding.


It depends on who you ask. People here in Dayton think Cincinnati is the asshole of Ohio. People in Cincinnati think Dayton is the Asshole.

- People from real cities don't think either place is very good.

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« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2011, 07:23:58 PM »
Actually, I've been in Dayton, at the time it struck me a smaller, dirtier version of Buffalo.
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« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2011, 07:31:36 PM »
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Actually, I've been in Dayton, at the time it struck me a smaller, dirtier version of Buffalo.


I like to be positive about living here (as I actually like the town) and think of it as a more convenient, cleaner version of Pittsburgh.

You should go post on my fantasy supers thread.

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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2011, 08:08:06 PM »
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I like to be positive about living here (as I actually like the town) and think of it as a more convenient, cleaner version of Pittsburgh.

You should go post on my fantasy supers thread.


Sorry, man, I didn't mean to dis your town.
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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2011, 08:10:59 PM »
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Sorry, man, I didn't mean to dis your town.


lol, no worries. I just like making fun of Pittsburgh.

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« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2011, 09:22:19 PM »
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It depends on who you ask. People here in Dayton think Cincinnati is the asshole of Ohio. People in Cincinnati think Dayton is the Asshole.


I've been living in Dayton for a few months now. Cincinnati seems nicer to me, but all my friends there insist it is terrible.

Are there any good game stores around here?
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« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2011, 09:30:28 PM »
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I've been living in Dayton for a few months now. Cincinnati seems nicer to me, but all my friends there insist it is terrible.

Are there any good game stores around here?


Yeah man, we got a lot of Game Stores, supported by local Airforce nerds:

I get most of my books and D&D minis from here: http://bellbcomic.com/

I try to support this store by occasionally buying a book and getting my board games like Settlers of Catan. They are massively successful and have BIG tournaments for miniatures on the weekends: http://www.krystalkeep.com/

If you don't mind the drive to Fairborn, this is the biggest store. I've never been a big fan of it personally, but they have a great used section and a huge second store across the street for action figures and comics: http://www.bookeryfantasy.com/

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« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2011, 09:42:34 PM »
Koltar works at a game store in Cinci... I keep meaning to go down there and check it out. Probably will this weekend or next week while I'm on break.

There is also a total rping game store in cinci - http://www.yottaquest.com/

They sell a lot of story game swinery and forge crap, but they also have the whole Paladium line, tons of old school, even Tunnels and Trolls. They host a ton of tournaments. I bet they even have Pathfinder society.

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« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2011, 10:42:03 PM »
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Koltar works at a game store in Cinci... I keep meaning to go down there and check it out. Probably will this weekend or next week while I'm on break.

There is also a total rping game store in cinci - http://www.yottaquest.com/

They sell a lot of story game swinery and forge crap, but they also have the whole Paladium line, tons of old school, even Tunnels and Trolls. They host a ton of tournaments. I bet they even have Pathfinder society.


Yottaquest is barely 5 to 10 minutes driving time from the store I work at.

They are our closest competition  - but also our friends in many ways and good people. If we are missing a game or an item I often call Yottaquest to see if they have it and send a browser over to them - and they do likewise.

I'd say two-thirds of our inventory overlaps what they have and vice-versa.

I've run RPG sessions at their game tables and the two stores pretty share about half of our regulars.

As for a 'Dayton vs. Cincinnati' rivalry ? - I'm NOT into that silliness. There is a local Sci-Fi convention called MILLENNICON every year.  I'm a member of the con committe , around half of the con-com members live and work in the Dayton area - sop I think Dayton area gamers, geeks, and nerds as my alliers, buddies or potential friends.

This year our Guest of Honor is the author Robert J. Sawyer  - he wrote the book FLASH FORWARD, which then got turned into an ABC TV series last year. We've also got that filker guy Tom Smith.

Dayton posters on here - send me a PM and we can meet up at my store sometime or at MILLENNICON.  When I'm on 'here'/this foruum I don't try to promote the store I try to let my hair down (literally - I got a ponytail) and relax a tad.

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« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2011, 10:48:44 PM »
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 I'd like to see more and stronger feminism, along with better civil rights activism.


Down here in Cincinnati that would be the parts of town known as : Clifton, Corryville, Clifton Heights, and Northside.

Probably because those are the neighborhoods closest to the University.

Somebody who just got out of the Navy grumbled abouyt Clifton: "They need a dress code in this part of town!"
 I answered: "They already have one, the women wear dresses and sometimes the men do too. "

Thats also the part of town where there are midnight showing of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show".

I used to know where ALL the alternative types, gays, lesbians, pagans, wiccans, bi-sexuals, socialist wannabees and former hippies used to hang out and party.  Problem is I'm a tad older now - I still got contacts or friends in those communities tho.

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« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2011, 12:15:03 AM »
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Same could be stated that RPG's were developed in order to give unattractive (physically and/or socially inept) men less access to the mainstreams of society.


Well yeah, except that it isn't.

Of course, what Werekoala said about feminism isn't true either.

Feminism began as a laudable and eminently moral movement and was quite sensible until it got subverted first by marxism and then by post-modernism to be used as a tool to tear down the values of western civilization; never mind that feminism was originally about pushing those same values forward toward their natural evolution (the rights and liberties of all human beings).   In that classical sense, I'm as feminist as they come.  

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