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Male self-hatred; as "woke" as can be

Started by Trond, January 15, 2019, 09:41:34 PM

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S'mon

#105
January 29, 2019, 02:50:33 AM
Quote from: rgalex;1072740Nope.  While men experience more harassment online, they also don't view it as serious or feel as threatened by it as women do.

This. Although 'harassment' is not the right word in most cases - it's usually just abuse. Women are more likely to see abuse as harassment. Of course there are exceptions - I'm pretty fragile and tend to see abuse directed at me as threatening, whereas eg Ann Coulter doesn't seem to care, and Michelle Malkin seems to suck up tons of abuse without being deterred.

SHARK

#106
January 29, 2019, 03:44:58 AM
Quote from: S'mon;1072754This. Although 'harassment' is not the right word in most cases - it's usually just abuse. Women are more likely to see abuse as harassment. Of course there are exceptions - I'm pretty fragile and tend to see abuse directed at me as threatening, whereas eg Ann Coulter doesn't seem to care, and Michelle Malkin seems to suck up tons of abuse without being deterred.

Greetings!

I have always liked Ann Coulter. She's very smart, though sometimes she can be abrasive. Michelle Malkin--damn, that woman brings enough sugar to be sweet--and at the same time being razor sharp and having a really persuasive wit. I love Michelle Malkin. Oh, and Oh My God!--Michelle Malkin is also a WOMAN OF COLOUR!!!! :) How come the SJW's and Feminists don't bow down and kiss Michelle Malkin's Asian ass? :) When Michelle Malkin gets up in the morning and burps before she brushes her teeth, she has more wit and grace than SJW's have in their entire life.:)

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

CarlD.

#107
January 29, 2019, 07:39:37 AM
Quote from: rawma;1072739So ... polling shows that men are a bunch of whiny snowflakes. Yes, that fits my observations here.

Could you unpack this a bit please?
"I once heard an evolutionary biologist talk about how violent simians are; they are horrifically violent. He then went on to add that he was really hopeful about humanity because "we\'re monkeys who manage *not* to kill each other most of the time.""

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Joey2k

#108
January 29, 2019, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: rawma;1072739So ... polling shows that men are a bunch of whiny snowflakes. Yes, that fits my observations here.

Do you also call women who complain about (or simply acknowledge) harassment directed at them "Whiny snowflakes"?
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Ratman_tf

#109
January 29, 2019, 01:30:22 PM
Quote from: CarlD.;1072766Could you unpack this a bit please?

Rawma is either a massive troll, or a massive hypocrite.
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Delete_me

#110
January 29, 2019, 02:14:32 PM Last Edit: January 29, 2019, 02:21:53 PM by Tanin Wulf
Quote from: SHARK;1072759I have always liked Ann Coulter. She's very smart, though sometimes she can be abrasive.

I read her a lot in high school, but am not as enamored with her writings now.

QuoteMichelle Malkin

I like her work a bit better than Ms. Coulter's, but still her policy work tends to be underwhelming. (But, then again, she's not a deep policy person, she's a... what's a non pejorative term for what used to be called Agitator?)

EDIT: I do have to caveat that with one thing. Her book Internment was... a bit of a fanciful rewrite of history and had some highly disturbing implications that should absolutely be discussed in depth.

Trond

#111
January 29, 2019, 04:05:19 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1072789Rawma is either a massive troll, or a massive hypocrite.

It is also possible to be both at the same time. Telling a bunch of us that we have poor reading skills was a good one :D

jhkim

#112
January 29, 2019, 04:22:54 PM
Quote from: S'mon;1072754This. Although 'harassment' is not the right word in most cases - it's usually just abuse. Women are more likely to see abuse as harassment. Of course there are exceptions - I'm pretty fragile and tend to see abuse directed at me as threatening, whereas eg Ann Coulter doesn't seem to care, and Michelle Malkin seems to suck up tons of abuse without being deterred.
From my experience, the women I know have had significantly more cases of being stalked online than men - where people pull personal information on them, following them to other online realms or pull details about offline life.

I think name-calling is much less significant and personal than this.

S'mon

#113
January 29, 2019, 05:50:05 PM
Quote from: jhkim;1072802From my experience, the women I know have had significantly more cases of being stalked online than men - where people pull personal information on them, following them to other online realms or pull details about offline life.

I think name-calling is much less significant and personal than this.

While it certainly seems likely that women suffer more stalking, men may be less likely to complain or even to notice. Someone abusing me in a different forum may just be because we both happen to hang out in two related forums.

HappyDaze

#114
January 29, 2019, 06:41:14 PM
Quote from: SHARK;1072759How come the SJW's and Feminists don't bow down and kiss Michelle Malkin's Asian ass? :)
Probably because somebody would frame bowing to an Asian individual as being racially or culturally insensitive and an obvious first step towards an inevitable hate crime.

SHARK

#115
January 29, 2019, 07:00:54 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1072808Probably because somebody would frame bowing to an Asian individual as being racially or culturally insensitive and an obvious first step towards an inevitable hate crime.

Greetings!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! So true, HappyDaze!

I just love how Michelle Malkin, *an Asian Woman*--and a *minority*--just takes SJW's apart. :) I have in my library one or two of her books. She's really smart, funny, and has a sharp wit. I was blown away when I found out that the girl has been a long-time gamer, playing AD&D for *years*. She even held up her original copy of AD&D DMG, and told the SJW's to suck it. :) She's fucking brilliant, classy, and sweet.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

jhkim

#116
January 29, 2019, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: jhkimFrom my experience, the women I know have had significantly more cases of being stalked online than men - where people pull personal information on them, following them to other online realms or pull details about offline life.

I think name-calling is much less significant and personal than this.
Quote from: S'mon;1072806While it certainly seems likely that women suffer more stalking, men may be less likely to complain or even to notice. Someone abusing me in a different forum may just be because we both happen to hang out in two related forums.
It seems difficult to get an objective measurement on this, but again - in my experience, a lot of online men are like Pundit - they have no problem giving and receiving insults, but they are extremely sensitive about any of their personal information being tracked, from their real name to any other details. I'd say that the people who are most sensitive about this that I know are all men.

Is your experience different?

I'd be curious. I do know some women who are guarded about their online identities, but not nearly to the extent of many men.

Delete_me

#117
January 29, 2019, 10:34:33 PM
Quote from: SHARK;1072809Greetings!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! So true, HappyDaze!

I just love how Michelle Malkin, *an Asian Woman*--and a *minority*--just takes SJW's apart. :) I have in my library one or two of her books. She's really smart, funny, and has a sharp wit. I was blown away when I found out that the girl has been a long-time gamer, playing AD&D for *years*. She even held up her original copy of AD&D DMG, and told the SJW's to suck it. :) She's fucking brilliant, classy, and sweet.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

It probably has more to do with her understanding of Korematsu v. United States and the 14th Amendment for why they don't like her.

Tait Ransom

#118
January 30, 2019, 12:57:28 AM
Quote from: S'mon;1072806While it certainly seems likely that women suffer more stalking, men may be less likely to complain or even to notice. Someone abusing me in a different forum may just be because we both happen to hang out in two related forums.

I'm betting you're right but I've seen exceptions.  I work in conduct and do some Title IX work on my campus.  The vast majority of stalking cases I've seen were male on female, but hands down the worst one was a female student stalking a male prof.  She was arrested at least 3 times and had him terrified.

S'mon

#119
January 30, 2019, 01:08:19 AM
Quote from: Tait Ransom;1072824I'm betting you're right but I've seen exceptions.  I work in conduct and do some Title IX work on my campus.  The vast majority of stalking cases I've seen were male on female, but hands down the worst one was a female student stalking a male prof.  She was arrested at least 3 times and had him terrified.

My dad had that with a PhD student (although not quite as bad, and it was partly his own fault).
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