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Author Topic: Looks like WoTC is going for more sjw points in their new release.  (Read 975 times)

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According to this article the November release for 5e from WoTC is addressing even more "racist" and "problematic" aspects of the game that only woke sjw types seem to see such as the titular character's lore as an evil mage being problematic because she's female and the racist notion that different races have different ability modifiers. I'm really starting to think they're going to kill D&D as we know it... What say you?

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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2020, 11:03:34 AM »
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According to this article the November release for 5e from WoTC is addressing even more "racist" and "problematic" aspects of the game that only woke sjw types seem to see such as the titular character's lore as an evil mage being problematic because she's female and the racist notion that different races have different ability modifiers. I'm really starting to think they're going to kill D&D as we know it... What say you?

That's hilarious.

Tasha was the alias for Iggwilv, one of THE most dangerous, powerful, and (yes) evil sorceresses in Greyhawk. We're not talking 'I have bad publicity' i.e. FR's the Simbul. She's the mother of Iuz, for crying out loud.

But oh no, she's not REALLY evil. I mean, she consorts with fiends, but no, that's not a problem at all! She's just misunderstood!

And I hear the book is right up there with Skills & Powers as far as character creation goes.

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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2020, 11:10:49 AM »
Well, splitting 'race' and 'culture' is D&D catching up to where the rest of the hobby has been for about 30 or 40 years. My oldest encounter with it is the distinction of package deals in Fantasy Hero (4E), but I believe it may go all the way back to Runequest.

As for the rest, at the moment, it seems projection/wishful thinking on the part of the article writer. We'll have to see how the book turns out. Iuz was probably corrupted by his father's toxic masculinity. :) (Actually, Graz'zt is a pretty good example of a toxic kind of masculinity, so that may not be so farfetched.)

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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2020, 11:16:00 AM »
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According to this article the November release for 5e from WoTC is addressing even more "racist" and "problematic" aspects of the game that only woke sjw types seem to see such as the titular character's lore as an evil mage being problematic because she's female and the racist notion that different races have different ability modifiers. I'm really starting to think they're going to kill D&D as we know it... What say you?

Good, they should go full woke when they finally release the 6th edition, but in the mean time they need to bend the knee and suck the woke penis even harder.

More room for small publishers/indie developers.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2020, 11:17:51 AM »
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Well, splitting 'race' and 'culture' is D&D catching up to where the rest of the hobby has been for about 30 or 40 years. My oldest encounter with it is the distinction of package deals in Fantasy Hero (4E), but I believe it may go all the way back to Runequest.

Yes.  I have only one issue with this:  I hope no one confuses my desire to split race and culture with being as stupid as WotC is.

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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2020, 11:34:55 AM »
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Yes.  I have only one issue with this:  I hope no one confuses my desire to split race and culture with being as stupid as WotC is.

I did it with my humancentric totally not Conan game. You got savages, barbarians, civilized, decadent cultures of all the colors (or the tools to create them anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2020, 11:52:05 AM »
Why isn't this in the gaming forum? It's at least related to gaming.

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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2020, 04:59:35 PM »
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What say you?

Ignore their crap and run your campaign however you want.
If WOTC wants to make themselves irrelevant, that's their business decision.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2020, 05:11:41 PM »
Depending on how its presented in the actual material I can see it being a net positive.  If you don't want to run old-school and want to let your special butterflies in the group make their special butterfly then there's rules for that.

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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2020, 05:12:27 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2020, 08:09:13 PM »
If the book is as good as Skills and Powers then I may have to buy it despite my boycott on WotC products.

Chances of that seem slim though.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2020, 04:06:31 AM »
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I'm really starting to think they're going to kill D&D as we know it... What say you?

EXCELLENT!!!

We're neck deep in the classic "we must destroy the village to save it" scenario. D&D in WotC's hands can't be saved, but it can be destroyed, all involved scattered to the winds and reborn in the future.

Considering what WotC has brought into the hobby as "new gamers", there's no loss if the WotC devotees wander off to destroy another hobby.

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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2020, 08:45:11 AM »
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EXCELLENT!!!

We're neck deep in the classic "we must destroy the village to save it" scenario. D&D in WotC's hands can't be saved, but it can be destroyed, all involved scattered to the winds and reborn in the future.

Considering what WotC has brought into the hobby as "new gamers", there's no loss if the WotC devotees wander off to destroy another hobby.

Unless it's your hobby that they wander in to.

Far better to crush them utterly, so that all hobbies are free from their evil.

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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2020, 08:54:52 AM »
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Unless it's your hobby that they wander in to.

Far better to crush them utterly, so that all hobbies are free from their evil.

For that to happen some companies need to go bankrupt so those executives will figure out that get woke, go broke is a very real concept.  That means WotC has to die.  I am okay with that as there is the OGL and with it the OSR.

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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2020, 09:31:30 AM »
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For that to happen some companies need to go bankrupt so those executives will figure out that get woke, go broke is a very real concept.  That means WotC has to die.  I am okay with that as there is the OGL and with it the OSR.

No company should be considered "immortal", and no company is "too big to fail".

I'd like to see an ongoing D&D TTRPG  product line, but WoTC have proven to be poor stewards.

And Disney is showing signs of comprehending "get woke, go broke" and squelching the woke in their own company. Time will tell how serious they are, and if any other companies, like, say, Hasbro, follow their example.