LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021

[jhkim]

Elfdart is not very bright, as it seems people are rapidly walking back the 'Brian Sicknick died from the 1/6 peaceful protest' claim. Hell, even his family seems to not know what killed him.

NYT quietly retracted the original 'killed with a fire extinguisher' story.

After the autopsy, it was revealed that his death was not due to blunt force trauma, but that doesn't mean his collapse and death hours later was a coincidence unrelated to protest. There is still an open homicide investigation. From Fox News:

A senior law enforcement official tells Fox News that investigators are "not ruling chemical irritants out" as a potential factor in the death of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick during the Jan. 6 riot.

The source noted that the investigation remains open and that officials are "looking at everything."

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-police-officer-sicknicks-death-officials-not-ruling-out-chemical-irritants-as-probe-remains-open

Similar from USA Today:

Federal investigators probing the death of a U.S. Capitol Police officer killed in the Jan. 6 riot have zeroed in on a suspect seen on video appearing to spray a chemical substance on the officer before he later collapsed and died, two people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/27/brian-sicknick-death-fbi-targets-suspect/6851588002/


As for the fire extinguisher story, you're implying that it was invented by the New York Times, when the same was reported by both Fox News and Breitbart. All three reported it because that is what sources said.

A total of five people were killed from the riot, including U.S. Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, who died at the hospital the next day from injuries sustained when he was struck in the head with a fire extinguisher while physically engaging with protesters, officials said.

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-search-capitol-riot-suspects-beat-tased-dc-officer-fanone-heart-attack

A U.S. Capitol Police officer died Thursday night after allegedly being struck in the head by a fire extinguisher during Wednesday's riots at the Capitol.

Source: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/07/report-officer-dies-events-stemming-capitol-riots/

[Shasarak]

After the autopsy, it was revealed that his death was not due to blunt force trauma, but that doesn't mean his collapse and death hours later was a coincidence unrelated to protest. There is still an open homicide investigation.

You would imagine that, with the Army taking over the defense of the Capitol, the Police would be able to put their best people on the case to get that solved as quickly as possible.

[Ratman_tf]

Elfdart is not very bright, as it seems people are rapidly walking back the 'Brian Sicknick died from the 1/6 peaceful protest' claim. Hell, even his family seems to not know what killed him.

NYT quietly retracted the original 'killed with a fire extinguisher' story.

After the autopsy, it was revealed that his death was not due to blunt force trauma, but that doesn't mean his collapse and death hours later was a coincidence unrelated to protest.

Possible, but it's pretty jarring for the story to go from 1. his skull being cracked open by a fire extinguisher, to 2. maybe he breathed in some pepper spray.

[jhkim]

After the autopsy, it was revealed that his death was not due to blunt force trauma, but that doesn't mean his collapse and death hours later was a coincidence unrelated to protest.

Possible, but it's pretty jarring for the story to go from 1. his skull being cracked open by a fire extinguisher, to 2. maybe he breathed in some pepper spray.

But #1 was never the story. It was reported from the start that he left and went back to the office -- unaware that he had any serious condition, but he later collapsed and died in the hospital. That's very different from having one's skull cracked open, in which case he would have been taken out in an ambulance. Sources reported that he had been struck with a fire extinguisher, and thus some sources apparently thought that was the cause. I'm not a doctor, but my understanding is that a head injury condition like a concussion or subdural hematoma can be not immediately noticeable, but can be life-threatening later. From the autopsy, that evidently turned out not to be the case - but of course, the autopsy wasn't available until weeks later. It still has not been made public.

[Ratman_tf]

After the autopsy, it was revealed that his death was not due to blunt force trauma, but that doesn't mean his collapse and death hours later was a coincidence unrelated to protest.

Possible, but it's pretty jarring for the story to go from 1. his skull being cracked open by a fire extinguisher, to 2. maybe he breathed in some pepper spray.

But #1 was never the story. It was reported from the start that he left and went back to the office -- unaware that he had any serious condition, but he later collapsed and died in the hospital. That's very different from having one's skull cracked open, in which case he would have been taken out in an ambulance. Sources reported that he had been struck with a fire extinguisher, and thus some sources apparently thought that was the cause. I'm not a doctor, but my understanding is that a head injury condition like a concussion or subdural hematoma can be not immediately noticeable, but can be life-threatening later. From the autopsy, that evidently turned out not to be the case - but of course, the autopsy wasn't available until weeks later. It still has not been made public.

"Then on Wednesday, pro-Trump rioters attacked that citadel of democracy and overpowered Mr. Sicknick, 42, according to two law enforcement officials. With a bloody gash in his head, Mr. Sicknick was rushed to the hospital and placed on life support. He died on Thursday evening."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/police-officer-killed-capitol.html

[jhkim]

After the autopsy, it was revealed that his death was not due to blunt force trauma, but that doesn't mean his collapse and death hours later was a coincidence unrelated to protest.

Possible, but it's pretty jarring for the story to go from 1. his skull being cracked open by a fire extinguisher, to 2. maybe he breathed in some pepper spray.

But #1 was never the story. It was reported from the start that he left and went back to the office -- unaware that he had any serious condition, but he later collapsed and died in the hospital. That's very different from having one's skull cracked open, in which case he would have been taken out in an ambulance. Sources reported that he had been struck with a fire extinguisher, and thus some sources apparently thought that was the cause. I'm not a doctor, but my understanding is that a head injury condition like a concussion or subdural hematoma can be not immediately noticeable, but can be life-threatening later. From the autopsy, that evidently turned out not to be the case - but of course, the autopsy wasn't available until weeks later. It still has not been made public.

"Then on Wednesday, pro-Trump rioters attacked that citadel of democracy and overpowered Mr. Sicknick, 42, according to two law enforcement officials. With a bloody gash in his head, Mr. Sicknick was rushed to the hospital and placed on life support. He died on Thursday evening."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/police-officer-killed-capitol.html

Interesting. I had not read that account, and it wasn't my impression at the time. I hadn't seen his injury described as a "bloody gash", and I'd agree it's jarring to shift from that. On the other hand, a "bloody gash" doesn't imply a life-threatening injury, and is different than "skull cracked open" which was your description.

Police at the time did say that he was injured and succumbed to his injuries. The official police statement read that "Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the US Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed. He was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries."

At this point, it still sounds to me like he had what seemed like non-life-threatening injuries, went back to the office -- and there collapsed. Other police at the time thought the collapse was due to his injuries (hence the police statement), but the later autopsy ruled out blunt-force trauma as cause of death -- though we still haven't had a cause of death released.

[Ghostmaker]

Translation from jhkim-ese: 'Oops, he caught me.'

Police say a lot of things, sometimes at the behest of politicians. We just spent a year with people ranting and raving about how 'all cops are bastards', etc, and now suddenly 'oh they can do no wrong'?

[Brad]

It's the same standard I set on election day. The only question you ever needed to answer was if it was enough to alter the results of the election. It was not, so shut the fuck up you sore losers.

So you're going with, "LOL SUCKERS!". Pathetic.

[Elfdart]

https://foxsanantonio.com/news/local/four-people-including-justice-of-the-peace-arrested-on-150-counts-of-voter-fraud

No voter fraud->insignificant incidences of fraud->not widespread fraud->not enough to change the election

Guessing the next step is something like, "LOL SUCKERS!"

It's the same standard I set on election day. The only question you ever needed to answer was if it was enough to alter the results of the election. It was not, so shut the fuck up you sore losers.

Two points that Brad was too stupid to notice:

1) The alleged fraud was perpetrated by a Republican Justice of the Peace and his accomplices.

2) No Democrat is demanding that the 2018 elections be thrown out, nor is any Democrat trying to get a mob of hooligans to undo the election results by threatening to kill elected officials in a putsch.

[Elfdart]

Translation from jhkim-ese: 'Oops, he caught me.'

Police say a lot of things, sometimes at the behest of politicians. We just spent a year with people ranting and raving about how 'all cops are bastards', etc, and now suddenly 'oh they can do no wrong'?

Except it wasn't just law enforcement, but Sicknick's own father who claimed he had died from a head injury:

Sicknick, 42, died Thursday night, a day after physically engaging with a mob of supporters of President Donald Trump who stormed the U.S. Capitol where lawmakers had just begun a formal vote to certify Democrat Joe Biden's victory in the Nov. 3 presidential election.

As rioters overpowered Capitol police, Sicknick was pepper-sprayed and hit in the head, his father said. Ambulance crews resuscitated him twice as he was rushed to a nearby Washington hospital. Sicknick died the next day.

"He ended up with a clot on the brain," his father said. "If they had operated on him, he would've become a vegetable."

Funny thing is, even if he wasn't bashed in the head but died from a stroke, that doesn't mean the Jan 6 fascists are off the hook. If prosecutors can show that Sicknick's stroke was caused by the strain of having to fight off a bunch of MAGA morons, they can still be charged with murder, like this scumbag:

LINK

EASTON, Pa. (WPVI) -- A man accused of having scared a woman so much during a Northampton County home-invasion robbery that she had a heart attack that night and died two months later has been convicted of second-degree murder.

Jurors deliberated for about six hours before convicting 29-year-old Quadir Taylor on most charges Friday night. The panel also convicted the Easton man of robbery, burglary, criminal conspiracy and related offenses, but acquitted him of aggravated assault and possessing an instrument of crime.

Taylor acknowledged having helped others rob 76-year-old Carrie Smith in her Wilson home in January 2012, but he disputed a forensic pathologist's conclusion that the heart attack caused her eventual death.

Taylor faces a mandatory life term, like two others also conviction of second-degree murder in the case.
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[Brad]

Two points that Brad was too stupid to notice:

1) The alleged fraud was perpetrated by a Republican Justice of the Peace and his accomplices.

2) No Democrat is demanding that the 2018 elections be thrown out, nor is any Democrat trying to get a mob of hooligans to undo the election results by threatening to kill elected officials in a putsch.

What did I do besides post a link about pretty egregious election fraud? Your second point is so laughable that I honestly hope you seek mental help.

Funny thing is, even if he wasn't bashed in the head but died from a stroke, that doesn't mean the Jan 6 fascists are off the hook. If prosecutors can show that Sicknick's stroke was caused by the strain of having to fight off a bunch of MAGA morons, they can still be charged with murder, like this scumbag:

Yeah...get some help. Seems like you're delusional.

[Ghostmaker]

Two points that Brad was too stupid to notice:

1) The alleged fraud was perpetrated by a Republican Justice of the Peace and his accomplices.

2) No Democrat is demanding that the 2018 elections be thrown out, nor is any Democrat trying to get a mob of hooligans to undo the election results by threatening to kill elected officials in a putsch.

What did I do besides post a link about pretty egregious election fraud? Your second point is so laughable that I honestly hope you seek mental help.

Funny thing is, even if he wasn't bashed in the head but died from a stroke, that doesn't mean the Jan 6 fascists are off the hook. If prosecutors can show that Sicknick's stroke was caused by the strain of having to fight off a bunch of MAGA morons, they can still be charged with murder, like this scumbag:

Yeah...get some help. Seems like you're delusional.

Elfdart also conveniently forgets that the Democrats and the left attempted to overturn the 2016 election.

[Brad]

Elfdart also conveniently forgets that the Democrats and the left attempted to overturn the 2016 election.

Per his spurious logic, if a fireman has a stroke because of the stress of putting out a fire at your house, his family can sue you for wrongful death. A fucking POLICE OFFICER who dies from "stress"? Like, they signed up for that shit. My God, the levels of stupidity Leftists use to justify anything they dislike is astounding.

[Ghostmaker]

This intense interest in Sicknick is rather amusing, considering that for some reason charges keep getting dropped against Antifa tards. Even for charges of assaulting federal officers, a felony.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/portland-protest-cases-dismissed-feds/283-002f01d2-3217-4b12-8725-3fda2cad119f

Dismissed with prejudice, which is bizarre. Unless, of course, you plan to have two sets of rules: one for your Sturmabteilung goons, and one for nonleftists.

But keep telling us how Biden is the 'law and order' president.

[Brad]

ANTIFA is funded by the Democrats, why wouldn't their charges be dropped?