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LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021

Started by SHARK, January 06, 2021, 10:43:06 AM

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ArrozConLeche

Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 12, 2021, 08:59:14 AM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche on January 12, 2021, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 12, 2021, 07:44:28 AM
You're wrong about damn near everything you posted here. Try harder, with more thought and less of your butthurt feelings. You can do it...maybe...

I've now seen that some veterans try to use their service as a kind of talisman to protect them from any and all criticism, lol. Anyone who defends these terroritsts should have a retroactive dishonorable discharge.
Wow, open up that can of worms, you unbelievable moron. Do you know what a D-D entails? You're effectively endorsing a felony conviction for wrongthink.

§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim


Ghostmaker

Quote from: ArrozConLeche on January 12, 2021, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 12, 2021, 08:59:14 AM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche on January 12, 2021, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 12, 2021, 07:44:28 AM
You're wrong about damn near everything you posted here. Try harder, with more thought and less of your butthurt feelings. You can do it...maybe...

I've now seen that some veterans try to use their service as a kind of talisman to protect them from any and all criticism, lol. Anyone who defends these terroritsts should have a retroactive dishonorable discharge.
Wow, open up that can of worms, you unbelievable moron. Do you know what a D-D entails? You're effectively endorsing a felony conviction for wrongthink.

§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim
Cool story bro. Except that's not what you said, you dishonest bitch.

You want anyone who even defends them to be retroactively given a felony conviction. This strikes me as a great way to be retroactively aborted by way of high-speed lead injection.

But sure, go down that road. We'll be more than happy to whip it out for everyone from Jane Fonda to Pantifa.

Say when.

ArrozConLeche

Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 12, 2021, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche on January 12, 2021, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 12, 2021, 08:59:14 AM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche on January 12, 2021, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 12, 2021, 07:44:28 AM
You're wrong about damn near everything you posted here. Try harder, with more thought and less of your butthurt feelings. You can do it...maybe...

I've now seen that some veterans try to use their service as a kind of talisman to protect them from any and all criticism, lol. Anyone who defends these terroritsts should have a retroactive dishonorable discharge.
Wow, open up that can of worms, you unbelievable moron. Do you know what a D-D entails? You're effectively endorsing a felony conviction for wrongthink.

§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim
Cool story bro. Except that's not what you said, you dishonest bitch.

You want anyone who even defends them to be retroactively given a felony conviction. This strikes me as a great way to be retroactively aborted by way of high-speed lead injection.

But sure, go down that road. We'll be more than happy to whip it out for everyone from Jane Fonda to Pantifa.

Say when.

lol, they can downgrade an honorable discharge if you're receiving retirement benefits. Not likely they would bother, but they should when you're advocating sedition, lol.

EOTB

Does your username refer to John Del Arroz?

If it refers to JDA, you could easily get lumped into punishment for wrongthinking; his public take on this is much different than yours. 
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ArrozConLeche

There's a difference between wrongthink and sedition. Last I checked, I haven't egged on or advocated sedition publicly nor privately for the violent overthrow of our democratic process, lol.

In any case, people here egging on violent sedition are not likely to get caught unless some incel loser turns into the next Timothy McVeigh. I doubt that the relevant authorities even know of this little anthill.  Shark's VA benefits will likely remain intact and his body will probably desecrate the national cemetery. Those are the sad facts.

EOTB

Thats not my point; I'm saying by the definition you're using, JDA is/has currently engaged in seditious speech, and you're advocating punishing that, while affiliating yourself at the same time.

Not hard to see potential unintended consequences there, if the consequences you state you want were to happen.
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ArrozConLeche

#261
RIght, just like I'd be associating myself with Condoleeza  if I called myself RiceWithMil instead? lol

QuoteNot hard to see potential unintended consequences there, if the consequences you state you want were to happen.

LOL Have you actually read any of the inflammatory, seditious shit written here??

Like, seriously, I understand the majority of the forum really loves Trump. I came to like him, despite myself, for much of his presidency. FOr the things he did right. He fucked up during covid, but even then I just thought he was being stupid/opportunistic. But all this seditious nonsense he has started since before the election even happened? Downright un-American, just like anyone defending it.

EOTB

You can LOL me 16 different ways, but all of them depend on a rigorous application of due process mostly absent from the priorities of those crying "sedition" the loudest.
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ArrozConLeche

#263
Oh yeah, all I want is for those advocating or engaging in voilence to get their day in court. you against that? But I'm realisitc. Other than a few who actually attacked the capitol, the chances of anyone online even getting a tap on the wrist are vanishingly tiny (like many an RPG site members' own penis).

Ghostmaker

Quote from: ArrozConLeche on January 12, 2021, 01:20:06 PM
Oh yeah, all I want is for those advocating or engaging in voilence to get their day in court. you against that? But I'm realisitc. Other than a few who actually attacked the capitol, the chances of anyone online even getting a tap on the wrist are vanishingly tiny (like many an RPG site members' penises).
And on that note, I think you can be safely relegated to the bitbucket. Nothing of value will be lost.


EOTB

I don't think the likelihood of punishment for online badthink is vanishingly tiny anymore, no.
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ArrozConLeche

So you're saying that the chance of getting prosecuted is larger than @Ghostmaker's micropenis?

SHARK

Quote from: ArrozConLeche on January 12, 2021, 01:02:55 PM
There's a difference between wrongthink and sedition. Last I checked, I haven't egged on or advocated sedition publicly nor privately for the violent overthrow of our democratic process, lol.

In any case, people here egging on violent sedition are not likely to get caught unless some incel loser turns into the next Timothy McVeigh. I doubt that the relevant authorities even know of this little anthill.  Shark's VA benefits will likely remain intact and his body will probably desecrate the national cemetery. Those are the sad facts.

Greetings!

Choke on it bitch. That's right, I'm such a monster. Fuck off, jackass.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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Pat

Quote from: VisionStorm on January 12, 2021, 08:37:32 AM
Quote from: Pat on January 11, 2021, 08:17:52 PM
Quote from: tenbones on January 11, 2021, 11:15:02 AM
1) Guam, Puerto Rico statehood. D.C. will not happen. But Guam and Puerto Rico? Definitely possible. All the RINO's have more incentive to go Democrat on everything because the Republican's have cut their own throat. If successful, this will lock up the Senate for generations.
Guam will never happen. 170,000 people vs. about 500,000 for the smallest House district. They'd need to triple the number of reps. Puerto Rico is more than large enough, but can the statehood movement overcome the independence movement, and is the US willing to accept a bankrupt state?

The independence movement in Puerto Rico is VERY weak, TBH. We have three traditional political parties based around the island's political status: Pro-Statehood (Partido Nuevo Progresista "New Progressive Party"), Pro-Commonwealth/Status Quo (Partido Popular Democratico "Popular Democratic Party") and Pro-Independence (Partido Independentista Puertorriqueño "Puerto Rican Independence Party"). And in my lifetime, the pro-independence party has never gotten more than 5% of the vote. There used to be paramilitary movements, but they got crushed decades ago and they never had broad popular support in my lifetime. They used to be stronger before I was born, but a bunch of them got caught after they tried an actual armed insurrection of the US Capitol (unlike what we saw last week), and it all went downhill from there.

Every time the push for statehood has been stalled, it has been from the pro-commonwealth/status quo side, with zero plans for independence. I've never heard anyone with broad popular appeal lay out some plans that captured the public's imagination about WTF we would do as an independent nation or WTF that government would look like. The dominant forces have always been the pro-statehood party and the pro-commonwealth/status quo party (either of which have won every election in my life), so for as long as I've been alive the fight has never been about statehood vs independence, but about people who want PR to become a state vs people who have NO plans beyond perpetually being a disenfranchised US colony forever. So what really needs to be overcome for PR to become a state (aside from the US gov actually accepting PR statehood) is not the independence movement, but blind, directionless inertia.
Good to have an insider perspective. I was in San Juan during one of your periodic referendums, and there were parades and celebrations and a lot of, for lack of a better word, nationalistic fervor. Probably gave me the impression it was bigger than it really was, though everyone I talked to favored the status quo. Just too many tax and funding benefits, and abstract things like having a vote in national elections weren't as important. Seems to be a slow shift towards statehood over time, though, especially based on the last referendum.

How are the finances? That was covered a lot during the last storm, and most pundits were saying PR would have to get their house in order before statehood could even be considered.

HappyDaze

Quote from: SHARK on January 12, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche on January 12, 2021, 01:02:55 PM
There's a difference between wrongthink and sedition. Last I checked, I haven't egged on or advocated sedition publicly nor privately for the violent overthrow of our democratic process, lol.

In any case, people here egging on violent sedition are not likely to get caught unless some incel loser turns into the next Timothy McVeigh. I doubt that the relevant authorities even know of this little anthill.  Shark's VA benefits will likely remain intact and his body will probably desecrate the national cemetery. Those are the sad facts.

Greetings!

Choke on it bitch. That's right, I'm such a monster. Fuck off, jackass.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Oh, SHARKy, you're so close to accepting that you're the monster. All it will take is you being a little more honest with yourself, and then perhaps you can start to be better.