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Author Topic: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021  (Read 117739 times)

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #195 on: January 11, 2021, 05:02:55 PM »
Remember...

1. No matter what anyone says about 'proof' of election fraud, the statistical analysis is showing massive circumstantial evidence. 

2. No one on Biden's side has questioned the validity of Trump's vote count.

The backlash against Obamacare/Bailouts with the Tea Party and others surprised them.  Suppose they 'did' rig this election.  They now have everything they want legally, but they know the people are actually opposed to it.

What statistical analysis are you referring to? In the other thread, I tried to read and discuss a bunch of the statistical claims, but most failed to show their sources or explain their analysis. The statistical claims that I'm most familiar with from the previous thread are three of the court case testimonies:

1) Navid Keshavarz-Nia (ref)
2) Russell James Ramsland (ref)
3) Charles J. Cicchetti (ref) (see page 20)

The first two don't explain themselves well and have blatant errors. Keshavarz-Nia cites data from the non-existent Edison County, MI. Ramsland cites a list of Precinct Townships in Michigan that do not exist - Benville, Monticello, etc. One can dig further into problems with these, but I think the non-existent places already tosses out their reliability. The links above show the actual testimony, and you can easily confirm for yourself that the places do not exist as stated.

Cicchetti does a better job of explaining how he gets his data, and the tests that he is doing on them. But the assumptions behind the analysis are openly flawed. He assumes that there is no change between the 2016 vote for Clinton and the 2020 vote for Biden, and then analyzes to find that they're different. That shows nothing. In his second analysis, he compares early to late results assuming that they will be identical, but there is no reason for that assumption.

You have a doctorate.  Ignore the 'court' documents and do an analysis of the data comparing across all of the swing states.  Then examine the historical data along the same axes.  You will find some glaring discrepancies that only happened in this election and only happened in the swing states that had the 'delayed' count and then went for Biden.  Ignore the 'fraud' accusations and actually look at all of the data...

It's been demonstrated by lots of polls that Democrats have been more concerned over covid-19 than Republicans, and more likely to vote by mail. So it should be expected that vote-by-mail will favor Democrats more than Republicans compared to vote-in-person.

I never said that the mail-in vote wouldn't favor D over R...All I said was that a statistical analysis shows some very interesting data points, especially if you understand how voter fraud actually works.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #196 on: January 11, 2021, 05:16:03 PM »
I don't get how you read that from what I wrote. Terrorism is not OK in any case - and I am saying that violent BLM activities are wrong. Peaceful Trump demonstrations are good, and peaceful BLM demonstrations are good. If you think that there was a single BLM event that was worse than the Capitol storming, then specify it, and we can compare.

Which bit was the Terroism bit?

Was it when the Protestors were shot?

I think you're mixing up quotes here. moonsweeper was the one who brought up terrorism. I didn't make any claim about terrorism except to say that it is bad -- because moonsweeper accused me of saying that terrorism is OK.

I haven't made any claim about someone being a terrorist, and I feel like moonsweeper's bringing it up was a distraction - that apparently worked.

Nope, no distraction...here is the quote I referenced (Bolding is mine for emphasis)

BLM riots = doubleplusgood
Trump "riot" = doubleplusbad

I'd say: as far as actions done (leaving aside the cause), the various BLM protests and riots were mixed with some good and some bad (violent/non-violent). Trump protests have also been mixed and mostly good, but specifically storming the Capitol was worse than any single BLM event.

The Kavanaugh protests were purely non-violent. That doesn't mean that the protesters were right - just that how they conducted their protest was good.

So go ahead then...enlighten us as to what makes 'Terrorism A' not as bad as 'Terrorism B.'
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #197 on: January 11, 2021, 05:34:33 PM »
And you've betrayed all of that to follow a pack of lying liars that endorse violence against Americans and attacks against America. Are you really so stupid? Oh well, at least you're all talk now, right?

You can not be a traitor for fighting American enemies both foreign and domestic.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #198 on: January 11, 2021, 05:50:08 PM »
And you've betrayed all of that to follow a pack of lying liars that endorse violence against Americans and attacks against America. Are you really so stupid? Oh well, at least you're all talk now, right?

You can not be a traitor for fighting American enemies both foreign and domestic.
The soldier doesn't designate enemies; that's for the government the soldier is serving to do. And that is why SHARK is a traitor.

No, being a traitor is when someone like Nancy Pelosi tries to take control of the US Nuclear weapons.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #199 on: January 11, 2021, 05:50:15 PM »
Greetings!

America is heading down a terrible road. The Democrats are embracing tyranny, censorship, and oppression as we speak, and Biden hasn't even been inaugurated yet. I imagine that more tyranny and oppression will soon be coming down the pipe.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Who just whipped up a mob of Nazis and sicced them on Capitol Hill, killing five (including a policeman)? Here's a hint: not the Democrats.

You are one dumb twat.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #200 on: January 11, 2021, 05:54:30 PM »
What statistical analysis are you referring to? In the other thread, I tried to read and discuss a bunch of the statistical claims, but most failed to show their sources or explain their analysis. The statistical claims that I'm most familiar with from the previous thread are three of the court case testimonies:
...(specific fraud claims from court cases)...

You have a doctorate.  Ignore the 'court' documents and do an analysis of the data comparing across all of the swing states.  Then examine the historical data along the same axes.  You will find some glaring discrepancies that only happened in this election and only happened in the swing states that had the 'delayed' count and then went for Biden.  Ignore the 'fraud' accusations and actually look at all of the data...

Those are actual court documents from lawsuits by the President. I think they are reasonable sources to check. He's the President of the United States, and has hired people to look into this. I shouldn't have to do all my work from scratch. And I already spent a while in the other thread checking on a number of other claims, and all of the ones I looked into didn't show evidence of fraud.

If you believe that there is a particular discrepancy, then specify it and we can discuss it.


It's been demonstrated by lots of polls that Democrats have been more concerned over covid-19 than Republicans, and more likely to vote by mail. So it should be expected that vote-by-mail will favor Democrats more than Republicans compared to vote-in-person.

I never said that the mail-in vote wouldn't favor D over R...All I said was that a statistical analysis shows some very interesting data points, especially if you understand how voter fraud actually works.

If you have interesting data points, then show them. Why would you keep them a secret?

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #201 on: January 11, 2021, 05:58:26 PM »
Looks like they just banned Ron Paul from Facebook.

FBI sent out a notice that their are armed protests being planned in all 50-states. I kinda call bullshit on this, it sounds like an invitation to a false-flag, but who knows.


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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #202 on: January 11, 2021, 06:11:14 PM »
And you've betrayed all of that to follow a pack of lying liars that endorse violence against Americans and attacks against America. Are you really so stupid? Oh well, at least you're all talk now, right?

You can not be a traitor for fighting American enemies both foreign and domestic.
The soldier doesn't designate enemies; that's for the government the soldier is serving to do. And that is why SHARK is a traitor.

You're talking about a country that was founded by a bunch of people telling the government to piss off and then shooting the government soldiers sent to stop them.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #203 on: January 11, 2021, 06:35:07 PM »
Greetings!

America is heading down a terrible road. The Democrats are embracing tyranny, censorship, and oppression as we speak, and Biden hasn't even been inaugurated yet. I imagine that more tyranny and oppression will soon be coming down the pipe.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Who just whipped up a mob of Nazis and sicced them on Capitol Hill, killing five (including a policeman)? Here's a hint: not the Democrats.

You are one dumb twat.

Meanwhile anti Nazi Democrat Andrew "Granny Killer" Cuomo is trying to legalize putting Jews into camps.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #204 on: January 11, 2021, 06:38:09 PM »
Looks like they just banned Ron Paul from Facebook.

FBI sent out a notice that their are armed protests being planned in all 50-states. I kinda call bullshit on this, it sounds like an invitation to a false-flag, but who knows.

Have you ever heard the expression "shipping coal to Newscastle"? Why would the FBI, Antifa, BLM, or anyone else bother to fabricate fascists when there are so many out there already?
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #205 on: January 11, 2021, 06:43:31 PM »
Meanwhile anti Nazi Democrat Andrew "Granny Killer" Cuomo is trying to legalize putting Jews into camps.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416

This is a draft bill first introduced in 2015 by State Assembly member Nick Perry, who keeps reintroducing it each year. It has always failed to pass, and is not sponsored by Cuomo or any member of the State Senate. If you follow Shasarak's link, you can go see the 2015 version and how it keeps being reintroduced.

EDITED TO ADD: Also, there is nothing about Jews or camps in it.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #206 on: January 11, 2021, 06:43:36 PM »
Meanwhile anti Nazi Democrat Andrew "Granny Killer" Cuomo is trying to legalize putting Jews into camps.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416

Would you so kind as to quote the part of the bill about Jews being put into camps?
Jesus Fucking Christ, is this guy honestly that goddamned stupid? He can't understand the plot of a Star Wars film? We're not talking about "Rashomon" here, for fuck's sake. The plot is as linear as they come. If anything, the film tries too hard to fill in all the gaps. This guy must be a flaming retard.  --Mike Wong on Red Letter Moron's review of The Phantom Menace

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #207 on: January 11, 2021, 07:05:18 PM »
Meanwhile anti Nazi Democrat Andrew "Granny Killer" Cuomo is trying to legalize putting Jews into camps.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416

This is a draft bill first introduced in 2015 by State Assembly member Nick Perry, who keeps reintroducing it each year. It has always failed to pass, and is not sponsored by Cuomo or any member of the State Senate. If you follow Shasarak's link, you can go see the 2015 version and how it keeps being reintroduced.

EDITED TO ADD: Also, there is nothing about Jews or camps in it.

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You are right jhkim, it is not a camp, it is a medical facility, or other appropriate facility or premises designated by the Governor.

I am sure that the Jews will feel so much better knowing that they are in an appropriate premises and not a camp.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #208 on: January 11, 2021, 07:09:36 PM »
Meanwhile anti Nazi Democrat Andrew "Granny Killer" Cuomo is trying to legalize putting Jews into camps.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416

Would you so kind as to quote the part of the bill about Jews being put into camps?

Was my link broken?
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #209 on: January 11, 2021, 07:12:57 PM »
Meanwhile anti Nazi Democrat Andrew "Granny Killer" Cuomo is trying to legalize putting Jews into camps.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416

This is a draft bill first introduced in 2015 by State Assembly member Nick Perry, who keeps reintroducing it each year. It has always failed to pass, and is not sponsored by Cuomo or any member of the State Senate. If you follow Shasarak's link, you can go see the 2015 version and how it keeps being reintroduced.

EDITED TO ADD: Also, there is nothing about Jews or camps in it.

You are right jhkim, it is not a camp, it is a medical facility, or other appropriate facility or premises designated by the Governor.

Do you also agree that I am right that it was from 2015, rejected four times, and is not sponsored by Cuomo or anyone in the State Senate?