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Author Topic: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021  (Read 117678 times)

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #180 on: January 11, 2021, 01:49:35 PM »
Aaaaannnnd... Parler's gone.

As of a little after 3 am (EST), apparently. It was hosted on Amazon (their cloud-based webservice AWS, most likely), and they suspended the service "after finding 98 posts that supported violence".

https://www.newsweek.com/parler-users-say-goodbyes-site-taken-down-1560428

We're living in crazy times.

Parler was already planning for that.  Their CEO (I believe, don't have time to track down the article) talked about it early yesterday or late Saturday and said they were already planning an alternative.

I am now officially getting worried.

They keep saying 'build your own', then they flout the law to prevent it...
Add in the establishment, pushing the throttle to the floor to raise the tension...


But I hear all the current rhetoric of going after the NRA/2a, and all this censorship stuff - to me is strategically retarded. They would earn *nothing* in the system they pretend they want to overhaul but guaranteed insurgency going after those things when they could be locking up bigger things for themselves.

If the American elite had actual wisdom, they would try to defuse this any way they could, deescalate, and offer an olive branch; hell, they would never have overreached. Trump and his movement would have faded; scandals would have tarnished his image for a few decades (before getting reappraised as an ultimately decent president hamstrung by a scheming bureaucracy), and a lighter version of his brand could have been assimilated into the political class, by someone like President Tucker, or one of the smarter young Republicans. Instead, they just turned the heat to from "frog-boiling" to the max, because they are afraid, and drunk with visions of revenge. This is how weak, scared men consolidate their rule, and create a myriad grievances.

Back Trump and US conservatives into a corner; create a pressure cooker atmosphere, and tear down their illusions of being invested in the system and in control of their own destiny - where every bankrupted small businessman would still have a fanatical belief in the free market and the cops and the courts. Expose these guys to the previously fringe idea that the state is in the hands of aliens who want them gone, and "these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny".


I think they are trying to push for an 'event'.  2016 scared the ever-living fuck out of the uniparty establishment.  Remember...

1. No matter what anyone says about 'proof' of election fraud, the statistical analysis is showing massive circumstantial evidence. 

2. No one on Biden's side has questioned the validity of Trump's vote count.

The backlash against Obamacare/Bailouts with the Tea Party and others surprised them.  Suppose they 'did' rig this election.  They now have everything they want legally, but they know the people are actually opposed to it.

Add in the fact that DJT (The super-waaaciissst) managed to get more minority support than any other Republican.  If they can force something, while they have all the reins of power they think they can prevent a 2022 backlash.

Think of all the double-standards from the DOJ/Court system and the media.  All the two-tier stuff is out in the open now.  Just because a portion of the population believes that is ok because it suits their agenda, don't believe what the  media says.  There is a significant resistance to the whole establishment 'do what I say, not what I do' narrative.

Talk to somebody in a militia, if you know anyone.  They will tell you that over the last ten years, the number of people talking on a personal level about armed opposition to the government has increased dramatically.  There is also a significant rise in the distrust of law enforcement.  For the last 4 years I have had friends from all over the political spectrum saying 'Man, you were right about the FBI'.  That may anecdotal, but I will trust it because a number of those friends weren't Trump supporters and I have been saying it for 30+ years.  When people I know change their outlook after 30 years, I am going to pay attention to why.

They also need to go now (while they have complete control) because of the firepower situation.  Note that in the article that jhkim linked a while back, the FBI classifies anti-government groups, incels, and 'religious groups' as all being 'right-wing'.  Then uses that as an excuse to claim that the 'right-wing' is the "Big Threat".  They are doing that to prepare the public for them using the military for intervention.  They have no choice, because even Federal law enforcement is extremely outgunned and they know it.

Note: Its not the conservatives/Republicans they have to worry about...
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #181 on: January 11, 2021, 01:52:50 PM »

I don't get how you read that from what I wrote. Terrorism is not OK in any case - and I am saying that violent BLM activities are wrong. Peaceful Trump demonstrations are good, and peaceful BLM demonstrations are good. If you think that there was a single BLM event that was worse than the Capitol storming, then specify it, and we can compare.

Go ahead and look up the USC legal definition of 'terrorism' then get back to me.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #182 on: January 11, 2021, 02:46:56 PM »
The protestors at the Capital building are a good example--more will come.

And how many cops will they murder next time?

At the moment the Cops lead Cops: 1, White protesters: 0

How knows what will happen next time?
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #183 on: January 11, 2021, 02:47:13 PM »
Remember...

1. No matter what anyone says about 'proof' of election fraud, the statistical analysis is showing massive circumstantial evidence. 

2. No one on Biden's side has questioned the validity of Trump's vote count.

The backlash against Obamacare/Bailouts with the Tea Party and others surprised them.  Suppose they 'did' rig this election.  They now have everything they want legally, but they know the people are actually opposed to it.

What statistical analysis are you referring to? In the other thread, I tried to read and discuss a bunch of the statistical claims, but most failed to show their sources or explain their analysis. The statistical claims that I'm most familiar with from the previous thread are three of the court case testimonies:

1) Navid Keshavarz-Nia (ref)
2) Russell James Ramsland (ref)
3) Charles J. Cicchetti (ref) (see page 20)

The first two don't explain themselves well and have blatant errors. Keshavarz-Nia cites data from the non-existent Edison County, MI. Ramsland cites a list of Precinct Townships in Michigan that do not exist - Benville, Monticello, etc. One can dig further into problems with these, but I think the non-existent places already tosses out their reliability. The links above show the actual testimony, and you can easily confirm for yourself that the places do not exist as stated.

Cicchetti does a better job of explaining how he gets his data, and the tests that he is doing on them. But the assumptions behind the analysis are openly flawed. He assumes that there is no change between the 2016 vote for Clinton and the 2020 vote for Biden, and then analyzes to find that they're different. That shows nothing. In his second analysis, he compares early to late results assuming that they will be identical, but there is no reason for that assumption.

It's been demonstrated by lots of polls that Democrats have been more concerned over covid-19 than Republicans, and more likely to vote by mail. So it should be expected that vote-by-mail will favor Democrats more than Republicans compared to vote-in-person.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2021, 02:48:32 PM »
And you've betrayed all of that to follow a pack of lying liars that endorse violence against Americans and attacks against America. Are you really so stupid? Oh well, at least you're all talk now, right?

You can not be a traitor for fighting American enemies both foreign and domestic.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #185 on: January 11, 2021, 02:52:26 PM »
I don't get how you read that from what I wrote. Terrorism is not OK in any case - and I am saying that violent BLM activities are wrong. Peaceful Trump demonstrations are good, and peaceful BLM demonstrations are good. If you think that there was a single BLM event that was worse than the Capitol storming, then specify it, and we can compare.

Which bit was the Terroism bit?

Was it when the Protestors were shot?
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2021, 03:08:29 PM »
I don't get how you read that from what I wrote. Terrorism is not OK in any case - and I am saying that violent BLM activities are wrong. Peaceful Trump demonstrations are good, and peaceful BLM demonstrations are good. If you think that there was a single BLM event that was worse than the Capitol storming, then specify it, and we can compare.

Which bit was the Terroism bit?

Was it when the Protestors were shot?

I think you're mixing up quotes here. moonsweeper was the one who brought up terrorism. I didn't make any claim about terrorism except to say that it is bad -- because moonsweeper accused me of saying that terrorism is OK.

I haven't made any claim about someone being a terrorist, and I feel like moonsweeper's bringing it up was a distraction - that apparently worked.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #187 on: January 11, 2021, 03:43:22 PM »
1) Guam, Puerto Rico statehood. D.C. will not happen. But Guam and Puerto Rico? Definitely possible. All the RINO's have more incentive to go Democrat on everything because the Republican's have cut their own throat. If successful, this will lock up the Senate for generations.

I wonder what would actually happen if Puerto Rico became a state. I know that people often think that we'd all vote Democrat, and that may well be the case, since we've been conditioned for decades to be dependent on the US and the Democratic party is the cornerstone for that dependency, and we've also been conditioned to believe that the US, and the Republican party in particular, is full of racists who would never accept us. But there's also a strong Christian social conservative contingent in the island, and they've been blocking progressive policies for decades. We haven't had any LGBT courses taught in schools here because the social conservative types keep blocking any efforts to institute them into the curriculum (which I have mixed feelings about, since I'm pro-LGBT, but anti-woke nonsense that get taught in those courses). I don't like them very much, since I've never been conservative and haven't been Christian for most of my life, and the idea makes me uncomfortable, but I wonder if the island can be flipped away from the Democratic party by appealing to the Christian social conservative side.

This is a salient point. But given the sheer willingness for the Democrat party to do "whatever it takes" to secure support for their cause, I'm pretty confident they can buy off whomever it takes to secure Puerto Rico at the legislative bureaucratic level. Like they did here.

I'm perfectly willing to go with you in terms of the populist sentiment. But we both know the problem here isn't with the people... and that window may have closed on all of us that don't prescribe to the current Purity Test standards of the day.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #188 on: January 11, 2021, 04:04:47 PM »
I don't get how you read that from what I wrote. Terrorism is not OK in any case - and I am saying that violent BLM activities are wrong. Peaceful Trump demonstrations are good, and peaceful BLM demonstrations are good. If you think that there was a single BLM event that was worse than the Capitol storming, then specify it, and we can compare.

Which bit was the Terroism bit?

Was it when the Protestors were shot?

I think you're mixing up quotes here. moonsweeper was the one who brought up terrorism. I didn't make any claim about terrorism except to say that it is bad -- because moonsweeper accused me of saying that terrorism is OK.

I haven't made any claim about someone being a terrorist, and I feel like moonsweeper's bringing it up was a distraction - that apparently worked.

So you disavow the statements made by Biden?

Thats a good start.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #189 on: January 11, 2021, 04:08:51 PM »

This is a salient point. But given the sheer willingness for the Democrat party to do "whatever it takes" to secure support for their cause, I'm pretty confident they can buy off whomever it takes to secure Puerto Rico at the legislative bureaucratic level. Like they did here.

I'm perfectly willing to go with you in terms of the populist sentiment. But we both know the problem here isn't with the people... and that window may have closed on all of us that don't prescribe to the current Purity Test standards of the day.
Oh great, guess we can look forward to a resurgence of the FALN. Just what we need, especially since that jug-eared dolt Obama let their head honcho out before he left office.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #190 on: January 11, 2021, 04:22:56 PM »
The protestors at the Capital building are a good example--more will come.

And how many cops will they murder next time?

At the moment the Cops lead Cops: 1, White protesters: 0

How knows what will happen next time?

Greetings!

Yeah, Shasarak, it unfortunately isn't looking good. As Spinachcat explained, we seem to be heading for either Civil War or National Collapse. The more censorship, tyranny, and oppression pushed by Big Tech, the MSM, and the Democrats just is not going to end well. Thousands of Conservatives, besides President Trump, have been censored now from the internet. The MSM is in such a hysterical propaganda mode, it is unbelievable how virtually every report or opinion they write, every interview, whatever, is just more dressed up propaganda designed to support the Marxist Democrat narrative. Then you have the fucking Democrats making "Lists", making demands for resignations of opposition Republican leaders, and essentially declaring Trump supporters to be "Domestic Terrorists". It is all absolutely insane and monstrously evil, but all of the cock-sucking Democrats and RINO cucks think all of these things are just great. It is mind-boggling.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #191 on: January 11, 2021, 04:23:11 PM »
Greetings!

It would be very interesting if President Trump signs the Insurrection Act and Nancy Polosi and others are arrested for Sedition and Treason.

Twitter, Google, all of them could be seized and confiscated by the government. Imagine how all of the Marxists would be REEEing.

So many corrupt politicians and bureaucrats in Washington. They need to be cleaned out.

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That sounds just as horrible. Totalitarian measures are never a good idea.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #192 on: January 11, 2021, 04:31:04 PM »
But what's important to remember is that the storming of the Capitol was the worse attack in US history...cuz it was the wrong people doing it.

And how dare they?
The vehemence of the reaction to the ruckus in the Capitol seems to be personal. Pelosi is furious because it's her house, and some dirty peasant put his feet up on her desk. Same with Schumer, McConnell, and so on.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #193 on: January 11, 2021, 04:32:50 PM »
Greetings!

It would be very interesting if President Trump signs the Insurrection Act and Nancy Polosi and others are arrested for Sedition and Treason.

Twitter, Google, all of them could be seized and confiscated by the government. Imagine how all of the Marxists would be REEEing.

So many corrupt politicians and bureaucrats in Washington. They need to be cleaned out.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
That sounds just as horrible. Totalitarian measures are never a good idea.

Greetings!

America is heading down a terrible road. The Democrats are embracing tyranny, censorship, and oppression as we speak, and Biden hasn't even been inaugurated yet. I imagine that more tyranny and oppression will soon be coming down the pipe.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #194 on: January 11, 2021, 04:34:07 PM »
It would be very interesting if President Trump signs the Insurrection Act and Nancy Polosi and others are arrested for Sedition and Treason.

Twitter, Google, all of them could be seized and confiscated by the government. Imagine how all of the Marxists would be REEEing.

So many corrupt politicians and bureaucrats in Washington. They need to be cleaned out.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I was watching Viva Frei last night and Robert Barnes explained that if Trump had signed the Insurrection Act then the Democrats would have immediately used it against him.

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