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Author Topic: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021  (Read 117680 times)

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2021, 01:55:42 AM »
Regarding some of the comparisons of the Capitol protests and BLM, and claims of 'White Privilege" from idiots from the "left".

"In june they stormed the white house...Black Lives Matter stromed the White House, they broke the barricades...no one was killed, no one was shot...we had a group of largely people of color storming the White House and none of them were murdered" - Michael Malice
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It's all about framing, unexamined bias and people's short memory spans. I didn't even remember this. BLM actually stormed the White House and NO ONE called them "Insurgents" back then.

Source? As far as I saw, all of the June 2020 protests were *outside* the White House - and they were dispersed with tear gas and stun grenades from the area. Here's some video from the time:




EDITED TO ADD: I guess one could read "broke the barricades" to mean that they pushed past barricades on the street - but as far as I saw, no one got up to the White House building itself, let alone broke inside and looted the place.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2021, 01:58:26 AM by jhkim »

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2021, 04:23:43 AM »
https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/2020-election-commentary/msg1159634/#msg1159634

That's just one instance of someone calling them patriots. If that doesn't sound like an endorsement to you, then I don't know if you speak English motherfucker.

Not to mention the youtube crackpot links that keep egging on this BS. I don't need to link you to every instance, do I?

Then again, why am I expecting any of you to not be lying idiots.

Damn, you found the most sarcastic poster on the boards calling them "Patriots" after several others insisted on referring to them as "Insurrectionists" in prior posts. You really got me on that one. I guess this means we ALL now supported people storming the Capitol 100% with zero reservations, and agree entirely that it was a brilliant idea cuz ONE guy called them "Patriots" at one point. Like people can't be "Patriots" and do stupid misguided shit at the same time.

A: "Rioting is wrong."
B: "But they didz it too!"

I think AOC said it best: The whole point of protesting is to make people uncomfortable



Right, because people here haven't been justifying the capitol riots by invoking "but they did it first mommy!" I don't know what forum you've been reading. Come back to earth son.

No, they haven't. EVERYONE who's brought up anything approaching a "justification" of the capitol protests has been more nuanced than that, and no one has come out and outright justified it (with the possible exception of Spinachcat, who came out saying he was "proud" of them at one point in the other thread), merely attempted to explain the causes leading up it.

This was SHARK on the other thread:

Quote from: SHARK
*Thousands* of American patriots all singing the National Anthem as more patriots storm the Capital building!

Huge chants of "OUR HOUSE! OUR HOUSE! OUR HOUSE!"

More chanting, "USA! USA! USA!"

Hundreds of Americans pouring inside the doors! Thousands everywhere, surrounding everything!

Fucking LOCK AND LOAD!!! Amazing!
(ref)

Quote from: SHARK
Nancy Polosi's office has been taken. Evidently she left in such haste, she left her computer open. Patriots are reading her Emails right now, and searching her computer.

Capital Police have attempted to use mace, tear gas and batons. Whistles blowing loudly, all to no avail. Tens of thousands of Patriots marching everywhere. American flags waving like great forests. Other scenes show police merely standing by, watching as Patriots march and pour about. Police do not seem eager to be violent in general.

Thundering roars of USA! USA! USA!

More singing of the National Anthem! Thousands singing all in unison!

Entire Capital building looks like it is overwhelmed and thoroughly occupied by Patriots!

So many huge crowds everywhere! Men, women, all chanting!

MAGA!
(ref)

Yeah, I forgot about that post. Still doesn't change the fact that people who were actually discussing the protest, as opposed to just bring up the news of the day while cheering for their side, gave far more nuanced reasons than "but they did it first!", which was the actual point.

Greetings!

Exactly, my friend! I watched several live videos, each covering some of the same scenes, and some with different aspects. The first video I posted in this thread, here, had coverage of the Save America rally, and President Trump's speech. Very interesting, cool, and it was inspiring.

Most of the witnesses and reporters on the scene described hundreds of thousands of American patriots attending--most likely well over a million people attending. It looked amazing and awe inspiring in my view.

There were something like, I don't know, several hundred, maybe a few thousand people that specifically stormed into the Capital building. Out of a million people attending.

I think it is tragic that several people died during the event. I think that political violence is a tragic and terrible--and as I have explained to my friends, regardless of how righteous someone may feel such violence is necessary--it will still be tragic, terrible, and horrifying for everyone involved. Take a look at our own American Revolution and the American Civil War. Look at the British Civil War, the war between Parliament and the King, look at the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, not to mention the civil wars and political struggles in the twilight of the Republic during ancient Rome--and in more modern times as well, the Troubles in Ireland, and the civil war in Ukraine. Terrible atrocities, huge numbers of people slaughtered, imprisoned, tortured, starved, crushed, impoverished and oppressed. Good, bad, and indifferent, young and old, men, women, and children. The blood and fire covered everyone.

Civil War is terrible, and I certainly do not want to see America go into a civil war.

And you're quite right. Patriots can do stupid things too, just like other people. Protesting is good, and a right that we have under our Constitutional Republic. The whole "Mob mentality" thing can--and often does--get swept up and out of control. Anyone that has ever been in a *really large* group, there can definitely be felt a kind of energy, and it can definitely influence people to do things without thinking. Shifting from protesting to *rioting* by some of the patriots attending the events in Washington, DC, was unfortunate.

Meanwhile, as you and others have commented, none of these events and responses are surprising. The Marxist Democrats have applauded and SUPPORTED political violence and "Mostly Peaceful Protests" for months now. Lots of money given to BLM and Antifa by Democrats, politicians, the media, celebrities, all along while being justified and glorified. None of these fucking corrupt Democrat politicians shed a tear or screeched about "Insurrection!" when cities all across America were being burned to the ground and good Americans hunted down and beaten, robbed, assaulted, and killed. FOR MONTHS. There's always nuances, and context. The monstrous hypocrisy of the corrupt, Marxist Democrats is absolutely disgusting. Why was the siege of the Federal Courthouse in Portland allowed to go on--for months--and this riot at the Capital building reacted to and ended within hours? Somehow, the Portland courthouse siege wasn't viewed as an "Insurrection!"--but the unarmed rioting at the Capital buiding in DC is an "Insurrection"? The DC event was not a coup or an insurrection--it was a rally, and then a protest. The Marxist Democrats in this country can continue with their hypocrisy, their censorship, their oppression, their fraud, lies and corruption, and their subversion of our Constitutional Republic--and somehow, patriotic Americans everywhere are just expected to get on their knees and swallow it down?

I don't think that is how it will go down. The DC protest and riot is a symptom of what is to come.

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2021, 06:06:52 AM »
https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/2020-election-commentary/msg1159634/#msg1159634

That's just one instance of someone calling them patriots. If that doesn't sound like an endorsement to you, then I don't know if you speak English motherfucker.

Not to mention the youtube crackpot links that keep egging on this BS. I don't need to link you to every instance, do I?

Then again, why am I expecting any of you to not be lying idiots.

Damn, you found the most sarcastic poster on the boards calling them "Patriots" after several others insisted on referring to them as "Insurrectionists" in prior posts. You really got me on that one. I guess this means we ALL now supported people storming the Capitol 100% with zero reservations, and agree entirely that it was a brilliant idea cuz ONE guy called them "Patriots" at one point. Like people can't be "Patriots" and do stupid misguided shit at the same time.

A: "Rioting is wrong."
B: "But they didz it too!"

I think AOC said it best: The whole point of protesting is to make people uncomfortable



Right, because people here haven't been justifying the capitol riots by invoking "but they did it first mommy!" I don't know what forum you've been reading. Come back to earth son.

No, they haven't. EVERYONE who's brought up anything approaching a "justification" of the capitol protests has been more nuanced than that, and no one has come out and outright justified it (with the possible exception of Spinachcat, who came out saying he was "proud" of them at one point in the other thread), merely attempted to explain the causes leading up it.

This was SHARK on the other thread:

Quote from: SHARK
*Thousands* of American patriots all singing the National Anthem as more patriots storm the Capital building!

Huge chants of "OUR HOUSE! OUR HOUSE! OUR HOUSE!"

More chanting, "USA! USA! USA!"

Hundreds of Americans pouring inside the doors! Thousands everywhere, surrounding everything!

Fucking LOCK AND LOAD!!! Amazing!
(ref)

Quote from: SHARK
Nancy Polosi's office has been taken. Evidently she left in such haste, she left her computer open. Patriots are reading her Emails right now, and searching her computer.

Capital Police have attempted to use mace, tear gas and batons. Whistles blowing loudly, all to no avail. Tens of thousands of Patriots marching everywhere. American flags waving like great forests. Other scenes show police merely standing by, watching as Patriots march and pour about. Police do not seem eager to be violent in general.

Thundering roars of USA! USA! USA!

More singing of the National Anthem! Thousands singing all in unison!

Entire Capital building looks like it is overwhelmed and thoroughly occupied by Patriots!

So many huge crowds everywhere! Men, women, all chanting!

MAGA!
(ref)

Yeah, I forgot about that post. Still doesn't change the fact that people who were actually discussing the protest, as opposed to just bring up the news of the day while cheering for their side, gave far more nuanced reasons than "but they did it first!", which was the actual point.

Greetings!

Exactly, my friend! I watched several live videos, each covering some of the same scenes, and some with different aspects. The first video I posted in this thread, here, had coverage of the Save America rally, and President Trump's speech. Very interesting, cool, and it was inspiring.

Most of the witnesses and reporters on the scene described hundreds of thousands of American patriots attending--most likely well over a million people attending. It looked amazing and awe inspiring in my view.

There were something like, I don't know, several hundred, maybe a few thousand people that specifically stormed into the Capital building. Out of a million people attending.

I think it is tragic that several people died during the event. I think that political violence is a tragic and terrible--and as I have explained to my friends, regardless of how righteous someone may feel such violence is necessary--it will still be tragic, terrible, and horrifying for everyone involved. Take a look at our own American Revolution and the American Civil War. Look at the British Civil War, the war between Parliament and the King, look at the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, not to mention the civil wars and political struggles in the twilight of the Republic during ancient Rome--and in more modern times as well, the Troubles in Ireland, and the civil war in Ukraine. Terrible atrocities, huge numbers of people slaughtered, imprisoned, tortured, starved, crushed, impoverished and oppressed. Good, bad, and indifferent, young and old, men, women, and children. The blood and fire covered everyone.

Civil War is terrible, and I certainly do not want to see America go into a civil war.

And you're quite right. Patriots can do stupid things too, just like other people. Protesting is good, and a right that we have under our Constitutional Republic. The whole "Mob mentality" thing can--and often does--get swept up and out of control. Anyone that has ever been in a *really large* group, there can definitely be felt a kind of energy, and it can definitely influence people to do things without thinking. Shifting from protesting to *rioting* by some of the patriots attending the events in Washington, DC, was unfortunate.

Meanwhile, as you and others have commented, none of these events and responses are surprising. The Marxist Democrats have applauded and SUPPORTED political violence and "Mostly Peaceful Protests" for months now. Lots of money given to BLM and Antifa by Democrats, politicians, the media, celebrities, all along while being justified and glorified. None of these fucking corrupt Democrat politicians shed a tear or screeched about "Insurrection!" when cities all across America were being burned to the ground and good Americans hunted down and beaten, robbed, assaulted, and killed. FOR MONTHS. There's always nuances, and context. The monstrous hypocrisy of the corrupt, Marxist Democrats is absolutely disgusting. Why was the siege of the Federal Courthouse in Portland allowed to go on--for months--and this riot at the Capital building reacted to and ended within hours? Somehow, the Portland courthouse siege wasn't viewed as an "Insurrection!"--but the unarmed rioting at the Capital buiding in DC is an "Insurrection"? The DC event was not a coup or an insurrection--it was a rally, and then a protest. The Marxist Democrats in this country can continue with their hypocrisy, their censorship, their oppression, their fraud, lies and corruption, and their subversion of our Constitutional Republic--and somehow, patriotic Americans everywhere are just expected to get on their knees and swallow it down?

I don't think that is how it will go down. The DC protest and riot is a symptom of what is to come.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK


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Greetings!

I'm sorry. What was that business about Parliament having the King of England executed?

I seem to recall there were armies raised by Parliament that fought against the armies of the King.

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #78 on: January 09, 2021, 06:24:50 AM »
https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/2020-election-commentary/msg1159634/#msg1159634

That's just one instance of someone calling them patriots. If that doesn't sound like an endorsement to you, then I don't know if you speak English motherfucker.

Not to mention the youtube crackpot links that keep egging on this BS. I don't need to link you to every instance, do I?

Then again, why am I expecting any of you to not be lying idiots.

Damn, you found the most sarcastic poster on the boards calling them "Patriots" after several others insisted on referring to them as "Insurrectionists" in prior posts. You really got me on that one. I guess this means we ALL now supported people storming the Capitol 100% with zero reservations, and agree entirely that it was a brilliant idea cuz ONE guy called them "Patriots" at one point. Like people can't be "Patriots" and do stupid misguided shit at the same time.

A: "Rioting is wrong."
B: "But they didz it too!"

I think AOC said it best: The whole point of protesting is to make people uncomfortable



Right, because people here haven't been justifying the capitol riots by invoking "but they did it first mommy!" I don't know what forum you've been reading. Come back to earth son.

No, they haven't. EVERYONE who's brought up anything approaching a "justification" of the capitol protests has been more nuanced than that, and no one has come out and outright justified it (with the possible exception of Spinachcat, who came out saying he was "proud" of them at one point in the other thread), merely attempted to explain the causes leading up it.

This was SHARK on the other thread:

Quote from: SHARK
*Thousands* of American patriots all singing the National Anthem as more patriots storm the Capital building!

Huge chants of "OUR HOUSE! OUR HOUSE! OUR HOUSE!"

More chanting, "USA! USA! USA!"

Hundreds of Americans pouring inside the doors! Thousands everywhere, surrounding everything!

Fucking LOCK AND LOAD!!! Amazing!
(ref)

Quote from: SHARK
Nancy Polosi's office has been taken. Evidently she left in such haste, she left her computer open. Patriots are reading her Emails right now, and searching her computer.

Capital Police have attempted to use mace, tear gas and batons. Whistles blowing loudly, all to no avail. Tens of thousands of Patriots marching everywhere. American flags waving like great forests. Other scenes show police merely standing by, watching as Patriots march and pour about. Police do not seem eager to be violent in general.

Thundering roars of USA! USA! USA!

More singing of the National Anthem! Thousands singing all in unison!

Entire Capital building looks like it is overwhelmed and thoroughly occupied by Patriots!

So many huge crowds everywhere! Men, women, all chanting!

MAGA!
(ref)

Yeah, I forgot about that post. Still doesn't change the fact that people who were actually discussing the protest, as opposed to just bring up the news of the day while cheering for their side, gave far more nuanced reasons than "but they did it first!", which was the actual point.

Greetings!

Exactly, my friend! I watched several live videos, each covering some of the same scenes, and some with different aspects. The first video I posted in this thread, here, had coverage of the Save America rally, and President Trump's speech. Very interesting, cool, and it was inspiring.

Most of the witnesses and reporters on the scene described hundreds of thousands of American patriots attending--most likely well over a million people attending. It looked amazing and awe inspiring in my view.

There were something like, I don't know, several hundred, maybe a few thousand people that specifically stormed into the Capital building. Out of a million people attending.

I think it is tragic that several people died during the event. I think that political violence is a tragic and terrible--and as I have explained to my friends, regardless of how righteous someone may feel such violence is necessary--it will still be tragic, terrible, and horrifying for everyone involved. Take a look at our own American Revolution and the American Civil War. Look at the British Civil War, the war between Parliament and the King, look at the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, not to mention the civil wars and political struggles in the twilight of the Republic during ancient Rome--and in more modern times as well, the Troubles in Ireland, and the civil war in Ukraine. Terrible atrocities, huge numbers of people slaughtered, imprisoned, tortured, starved, crushed, impoverished and oppressed. Good, bad, and indifferent, young and old, men, women, and children. The blood and fire covered everyone.

Civil War is terrible, and I certainly do not want to see America go into a civil war.

And you're quite right. Patriots can do stupid things too, just like other people. Protesting is good, and a right that we have under our Constitutional Republic. The whole "Mob mentality" thing can--and often does--get swept up and out of control. Anyone that has ever been in a *really large* group, there can definitely be felt a kind of energy, and it can definitely influence people to do things without thinking. Shifting from protesting to *rioting* by some of the patriots attending the events in Washington, DC, was unfortunate.

Meanwhile, as you and others have commented, none of these events and responses are surprising. The Marxist Democrats have applauded and SUPPORTED political violence and "Mostly Peaceful Protests" for months now. Lots of money given to BLM and Antifa by Democrats, politicians, the media, celebrities, all along while being justified and glorified. None of these fucking corrupt Democrat politicians shed a tear or screeched about "Insurrection!" when cities all across America were being burned to the ground and good Americans hunted down and beaten, robbed, assaulted, and killed. FOR MONTHS. There's always nuances, and context. The monstrous hypocrisy of the corrupt, Marxist Democrats is absolutely disgusting. Why was the siege of the Federal Courthouse in Portland allowed to go on--for months--and this riot at the Capital building reacted to and ended within hours? Somehow, the Portland courthouse siege wasn't viewed as an "Insurrection!"--but the unarmed rioting at the Capital buiding in DC is an "Insurrection"? The DC event was not a coup or an insurrection--it was a rally, and then a protest. The Marxist Democrats in this country can continue with their hypocrisy, their censorship, their oppression, their fraud, lies and corruption, and their subversion of our Constitutional Republic--and somehow, patriotic Americans everywhere are just expected to get on their knees and swallow it down?

I don't think that is how it will go down. The DC protest and riot is a symptom of what is to come.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK


There's never been a. British Civil War

Greetings!

I'm sorry. What was that business about Parliament having the King of England executed?

I seem to recall there were armies raised by Parliament that fought against the armies of the King.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

That'll be the English Civil War in which the English Parliament fought against the King. Now this is connected to the War of the Three Kingdoms but was not a British civil war as it took place before the Act of Union in 1707.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #79 on: January 09, 2021, 07:26:50 AM »
LOL!

Gonna need some more realiable sources than some random dude on Youtube saying so. Protesting on the street outside the White House and making Trump shit his pants so much that he went into a bunker is not the same thing.

Then again, why am I expecting any of you to not be lying idiots.

"Trump "shit his pants" therefore it was OK, cuz I'm not biased."

Got it.

LOL!
Then again, why am I expecting any of you to not be lying idiots.

"Everyone saying something I won't bother to refute or even address is lying."

I know.

Regarding some of the comparisons of the Capitol protests and BLM, and claims of 'White Privilege" from idiots from the "left".

"In june they stormed the white house...Black Lives Matter stromed the White House, they broke the barricades...no one was killed, no one was shot...we had a group of largely people of color storming the White House and none of them were murdered" - Michael Malice
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It's all about framing, unexamined bias and people's short memory spans. I didn't even remember this. BLM actually stormed the White House and NO ONE called them "Insurgents" back then.

Source? As far as I saw, all of the June 2020 protests were *outside* the White House - and they were dispersed with tear gas and stun grenades from the area. Here's some video from the time:




EDITED TO ADD: I guess one could read "broke the barricades" to mean that they pushed past barricades on the street - but as far as I saw, no one got up to the White House building itself, let alone broke inside and looted the place.

There was still a breach and potential threat to the President, and no one was killed, and no one took it seriously, cuz Orange Man Bad.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #80 on: January 09, 2021, 09:01:03 AM »
What is a good way to accomplish anything when the court system is corrupt, your elections are corrupt and your media is corrupt?

I mean for those people that can not place a direct call to Nancy?

I don't know, like, not voting for the same type of people who feed their constituents to the corporations?  Just because they use wedge issues to pander to voters, doesn't mean they have the best interests at heart.

We tried that.  Apparently we elected the most evil human being in history*.  Although one would think our excellent news media could have found evidence of that dated before 2015, since the guy has been in the media for the last 40+ years. 

Given your question to Shasarak, I am assuming you supported Donald Trump, right?



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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #81 on: January 09, 2021, 10:55:00 AM »
So what do the Trump apologists on this site make of the fact that the 'protesters' murdered a cop by crushing his head with fire extinguisher, roamed the capitol with zip ties so they would be ready to take hostages, and left live bombs on the property? The other thread on this subject got locked just as you all were getting close to dealing with the fact that our patriots are cop murdering terrorists. So, how about now?

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #82 on: January 09, 2021, 11:10:15 AM »
So what do the Trump apologists on this site make of the fact that the 'protesters' murdered a cop by crushing his head with fire extinguisher, roamed the capitol with zip ties so they would be ready to take hostages, and left live bombs on the property? The other thread on this subject got locked just as you all were getting close to dealing with the fact that our patriots are cop murdering terrorists. So, how about now?
In other words, the protests were mostly peaceful.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #83 on: January 09, 2021, 11:28:57 AM »
So what do the Trump apologists on this site make of the fact that the 'protesters' murdered a cop by crushing his head with fire extinguisher, roamed the capitol with zip ties so they would be ready to take hostages, and left live bombs on the property? The other thread on this subject got locked just as you all were getting close to dealing with the fact that our patriots are cop murdering terrorists. So, how about now?

No specific details have come out on what actually happened to that cop in the confrontation that resulted on the injuries that led to his death, and I have heard nothing about any "bombs" or people taking hostages. And NOTHING about the video evidence that I've seen posted so far suggests that many of these protesters were even aggressive.

But since you bring it up, what do establishment & BLM apologists on this site make of the fact that BLM 'protesters' murdered multiple cops and innocent people in multiple incidents throughout this year in actual intentional assaults?--Not just wild confrontations that happened during a protest were cops were beating people up (which for all we know could've been what led to the cop who died being hit on the head), but actual people going out of their way to specifically run over cops with a car or seek out Trump supporters to shot them point blank.

And what do they make out of the fact that off duty cops were among the protesters that stormed the Capitol and entered the build--flashing their badges as they did, which likely contributed to how people were able to storm their way into the building in the first place?

https://news.yahoo.com/off-duty-police-officers-among-201522125.html

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #84 on: January 09, 2021, 11:36:08 AM »
There are  well documented news reports of everything I wrote. If you haven't seen them, it means you have not been interested enough to check. 

Also, the immediate instinct to dodge the question with a mixture of truths, half truths and lies about BLM protests, is exactly what I would expect of the right wing choads who hang out here.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2021, 11:38:51 AM by Larsdangly »

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #85 on: January 09, 2021, 12:08:17 PM »
Anyone want to comment about the presence of John Earle Sullivan at the protest?

(Whozat, Ghost?)

Oh. He's an activist and photojournalist whose last gig was supporting an Antifa/BLM rally in Provo, Utah.

I'm sure he was there for totally innocent reasons. Really.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #86 on: January 09, 2021, 12:13:19 PM »
There are  well documented news reports of everything I wrote. If you haven't seen them, it means you have not been interested enough to check. 

Also, the immediate instinct to dodge the question with a mixture of truths, half truths and lies about BLM protests, is exactly what I would expect of the right wing choads who hang out here.

>Refuses to provide sources
>Dodges the questions
>Accuses others of dodging questions that were actually addressed

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #87 on: January 09, 2021, 12:13:49 PM »
So what do the Trump apologists on this site make of the fact that the 'protesters' murdered a cop by crushing his head with fire extinguisher, roamed the capitol with zip ties so they would be ready to take hostages, and left live bombs on the property? The other thread on this subject got locked just as you all were getting close to dealing with the fact that our patriots are cop murdering terrorists. So, how about now?
In other words, the protests were mostly peaceful.

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*Laughing*--brilliant, Pat! ;D

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #88 on: January 09, 2021, 12:22:12 PM »
https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/2020-election-commentary/msg1159634/#msg1159634

That's just one instance of someone calling them patriots. If that doesn't sound like an endorsement to you, then I don't know if you speak English motherfucker.

Not to mention the youtube crackpot links that keep egging on this BS. I don't need to link you to every instance, do I?

Then again, why am I expecting any of you to not be lying idiots.

Damn, you found the most sarcastic poster on the boards calling them "Patriots" after several others insisted on referring to them as "Insurrectionists" in prior posts. You really got me on that one. I guess this means we ALL now supported people storming the Capitol 100% with zero reservations, and agree entirely that it was a brilliant idea cuz ONE guy called them "Patriots" at one point. Like people can't be "Patriots" and do stupid misguided shit at the same time.

A: "Rioting is wrong."
B: "But they didz it too!"

I think AOC said it best: The whole point of protesting is to make people uncomfortable



Right, because people here haven't been justifying the capitol riots by invoking "but they did it first mommy!" I don't know what forum you've been reading. Come back to earth son.

No, they haven't. EVERYONE who's brought up anything approaching a "justification" of the capitol protests has been more nuanced than that, and no one has come out and outright justified it (with the possible exception of Spinachcat, who came out saying he was "proud" of them at one point in the other thread), merely attempted to explain the causes leading up it.

This was SHARK on the other thread:

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*Thousands* of American patriots all singing the National Anthem as more patriots storm the Capital building!

Huge chants of "OUR HOUSE! OUR HOUSE! OUR HOUSE!"

More chanting, "USA! USA! USA!"

Hundreds of Americans pouring inside the doors! Thousands everywhere, surrounding everything!

Fucking LOCK AND LOAD!!! Amazing!
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Nancy Polosi's office has been taken. Evidently she left in such haste, she left her computer open. Patriots are reading her Emails right now, and searching her computer.

Capital Police have attempted to use mace, tear gas and batons. Whistles blowing loudly, all to no avail. Tens of thousands of Patriots marching everywhere. American flags waving like great forests. Other scenes show police merely standing by, watching as Patriots march and pour about. Police do not seem eager to be violent in general.

Thundering roars of USA! USA! USA!

More singing of the National Anthem! Thousands singing all in unison!

Entire Capital building looks like it is overwhelmed and thoroughly occupied by Patriots!

So many huge crowds everywhere! Men, women, all chanting!

MAGA!
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Yeah, I forgot about that post. Still doesn't change the fact that people who were actually discussing the protest, as opposed to just bring up the news of the day while cheering for their side, gave far more nuanced reasons than "but they did it first!", which was the actual point.

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Exactly, my friend! I watched several live videos, each covering some of the same scenes, and some with different aspects. The first video I posted in this thread, here, had coverage of the Save America rally, and President Trump's speech. Very interesting, cool, and it was inspiring.

Most of the witnesses and reporters on the scene described hundreds of thousands of American patriots attending--most likely well over a million people attending. It looked amazing and awe inspiring in my view.

There were something like, I don't know, several hundred, maybe a few thousand people that specifically stormed into the Capital building. Out of a million people attending.

I think it is tragic that several people died during the event. I think that political violence is a tragic and terrible--and as I have explained to my friends, regardless of how righteous someone may feel such violence is necessary--it will still be tragic, terrible, and horrifying for everyone involved. Take a look at our own American Revolution and the American Civil War. Look at the British Civil War, the war between Parliament and the King, look at the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, not to mention the civil wars and political struggles in the twilight of the Republic during ancient Rome--and in more modern times as well, the Troubles in Ireland, and the civil war in Ukraine. Terrible atrocities, huge numbers of people slaughtered, imprisoned, tortured, starved, crushed, impoverished and oppressed. Good, bad, and indifferent, young and old, men, women, and children. The blood and fire covered everyone.

Civil War is terrible, and I certainly do not want to see America go into a civil war.

And you're quite right. Patriots can do stupid things too, just like other people. Protesting is good, and a right that we have under our Constitutional Republic. The whole "Mob mentality" thing can--and often does--get swept up and out of control. Anyone that has ever been in a *really large* group, there can definitely be felt a kind of energy, and it can definitely influence people to do things without thinking. Shifting from protesting to *rioting* by some of the patriots attending the events in Washington, DC, was unfortunate.

Meanwhile, as you and others have commented, none of these events and responses are surprising. The Marxist Democrats have applauded and SUPPORTED political violence and "Mostly Peaceful Protests" for months now. Lots of money given to BLM and Antifa by Democrats, politicians, the media, celebrities, all along while being justified and glorified. None of these fucking corrupt Democrat politicians shed a tear or screeched about "Insurrection!" when cities all across America were being burned to the ground and good Americans hunted down and beaten, robbed, assaulted, and killed. FOR MONTHS. There's always nuances, and context. The monstrous hypocrisy of the corrupt, Marxist Democrats is absolutely disgusting. Why was the siege of the Federal Courthouse in Portland allowed to go on--for months--and this riot at the Capital building reacted to and ended within hours? Somehow, the Portland courthouse siege wasn't viewed as an "Insurrection!"--but the unarmed rioting at the Capital buiding in DC is an "Insurrection"? The DC event was not a coup or an insurrection--it was a rally, and then a protest. The Marxist Democrats in this country can continue with their hypocrisy, their censorship, their oppression, their fraud, lies and corruption, and their subversion of our Constitutional Republic--and somehow, patriotic Americans everywhere are just expected to get on their knees and swallow it down?

I don't think that is how it will go down. The DC protest and riot is a symptom of what is to come.

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From what I've seen and heard there was far more to this rally and the protests than the people who entered the Capitol. I was watching a video someone posted in the other thread last night (below), of a woman who went to the protest, but stayed outside the building, and she recounted her experiences of the event, how there were thousands of people there from all walks of life, backgrounds and even ethnicities (contrary to the frequent claims of "white privilege" that have been trending in leftist social media--implying that this was all white people)--she even saw pair of old grannies all dressed up, like they were going to church storming the Capitol and she was inspired by the sight and just kept going. And despite the media focus on the violence and the tragedy that happened inside, she said that the VAST majority of the protest was peaceful and lively, full of people chanting and being cool with one another, in a great atmosphere of sharing and joy--nothing like how the media has portrayed it.

Even in the clips of people inside the Capitol you can see how these people were non-aggressive and just goofing around, taking selfies with the cops or playing around with podiums and stuff. There's a stark contrast between that and the images of burning cities that took place in some of the BLM protests. Breaking into the Capitol Building was certainly ill advised and horrible optics, which led to a terrible tragedy, but to pretend that it was somehow worse or even in equal footing to some of the stuff that happened in numerous leftist protests is absurd. If anything the seat of the government is PRECISELY where you're supposed to protest--not at the cities, burning buildings and looting stores, but at the place where the lawmakers who have consistently failed the American public are at. THOSE are the people who need to answer for the state of the nation, not innocent people in the streets or store owners. But now protesting at the Capitol is being portrayed as worse (or at least just as bad) than burning down cities and killing innocent people?

I don't know. But we're heading to a dark place. And all of this is part of a symptom of a larger problem and a feeling of deep dissatisfaction in the American public that just going to continue to escalate now that they're talking of clamping down on this sort of thing, and more people are being silenced all across social media, purging their voices and crushing dissent. And there's only one direction that ever goes throughout history.



Gretings!

Indeed, I agree my friend. This whole situation is being exploited by the Democrats for a power-grab, making up lists of Trump supporters and Conservatives, censorship and banning, and more fucking oppression.

Fuck them. The cock-sucking Marxists in this country are going to keep pushing, pushing, and pushing.

Don't be surprised then when people start getting flame-throwered and lit the fuck up.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #89 on: January 09, 2021, 12:22:50 PM »
So what do the Trump apologists on this site make of the fact that the 'protesters' murdered a cop by crushing his head with fire extinguisher, roamed the capitol with zip ties so they would be ready to take hostages, and left live bombs on the property? The other thread on this subject got locked just as you all were getting close to dealing with the fact that our patriots are cop murdering terrorists. So, how about now?
In other words, the protests were mostly peaceful.

They literally were. But unlike BLM supporters, I am hearing conservative pundits and Trump supporters who were there but did not go in, decry the riot as unacceptable behavior.
Meanwhile we got years of the mainstream media and politicians excuse BLM violence and destruction.
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