LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021

[oggsmash]

  I think the main thing to remember about this whole thing though is make sure if you attend a peaceful protest, you are in fact protesting for the correct side.  Because it is the difference between being let off with no charges and doing damn near 8 years in prison for putting your feet on a desk.

[KingCheops]

  I think the main thing to remember about this whole thing though is make sure if you attend a peaceful protest, you are in fact protesting for the correct side.  Because it is the difference between being let off with no charges and doing damn near 8 years in prison for putting your feet on a desk.

8 years in solitary and having your face punched such that your orbital bone gets broken.

FOIA in the "QAnon Shaman" just resulted in a video tape being released where he had a calm discussion with capital police where the police said they could come in to the building and the police would escort them around.  The Shaman tells everyone to just be peaceful and the cops sure enough follow them around and escort them through the various rooms including letting them take seflies/pictures in Mike Pence's seat.

The whole thing is political theater.

[oggsmash]

  I think the main thing to remember about this whole thing though is make sure if you attend a peaceful protest, you are in fact protesting for the correct side.  Because it is the difference between being let off with no charges and doing damn near 8 years in prison for putting your feet on a desk.

8 years in solitary and having your face punched such that your orbital bone gets broken.

FOIA in the "QAnon Shaman" just resulted in a video tape being released where he had a calm discussion with capital police where the police said they could come in to the building and the police would escort them around.  The Shaman tells everyone to just be peaceful and the cops sure enough follow them around and escort them through the various rooms including letting them take seflies/pictures in Mike Pence's seat.

The whole thing is political theater.

  Theater?   To me that is when some republican pretends to care by asking some hardish questions to some establishment talking head.  Going to prison for 8 years with no parole is waaaaaaaay past theatre and a pretty serious shot across the bow IMO.  I am fairly certain there will be no return fire though, so I fully expect going to prison for the wrong protest to be fully the rule/law of the day. 

[Ghostmaker]

Something to ponder:

Have any of the 1/6 peaceful protesters actually been convicted of anything? I've seen indictments, even charges, but no trials.

Sixth Amendment violations ahoy!

[KingCheops]

  I think the main thing to remember about this whole thing though is make sure if you attend a peaceful protest, you are in fact protesting for the correct side.  Because it is the difference between being let off with no charges and doing damn near 8 years in prison for putting your feet on a desk.

8 years in solitary and having your face punched such that your orbital bone gets broken.

FOIA in the "QAnon Shaman" just resulted in a video tape being released where he had a calm discussion with capital police where the police said they could come in to the building and the police would escort them around.  The Shaman tells everyone to just be peaceful and the cops sure enough follow them around and escort them through the various rooms including letting them take seflies/pictures in Mike Pence's seat.

The whole thing is political theater.

  Theater?   To me that is when some republican pretends to care by asking some hardish questions to some establishment talking head.  Going to prison for 8 years with no parole is waaaaaaaay past theatre and a pretty serious shot across the bow IMO.  I am fairly certain there will be no return fire though, so I fully expect going to prison for the wrong protest to be fully the rule/law of the day.

Ah yes you are correct.  The Jan 6 "insurrection" is political theater.  It is being trumped up (pun intended) to enable the response they are taking which is VERY real.  I wasn't very clear with my statement.

[oggsmash]

  I think the main thing to remember about this whole thing though is make sure if you attend a peaceful protest, you are in fact protesting for the correct side.  Because it is the difference between being let off with no charges and doing damn near 8 years in prison for putting your feet on a desk.

8 years in solitary and having your face punched such that your orbital bone gets broken.

FOIA in the "QAnon Shaman" just resulted in a video tape being released where he had a calm discussion with capital police where the police said they could come in to the building and the police would escort them around.  The Shaman tells everyone to just be peaceful and the cops sure enough follow them around and escort them through the various rooms including letting them take seflies/pictures in Mike Pence's seat.

The whole thing is political theater.

  Theater?   To me that is when some republican pretends to care by asking some hardish questions to some establishment talking head.  Going to prison for 8 years with no parole is waaaaaaaay past theatre and a pretty serious shot across the bow IMO.  I am fairly certain there will be no return fire though, so I fully expect going to prison for the wrong protest to be fully the rule/law of the day.

Ah yes you are correct.  The Jan 6 "insurrection" is political theater.  It is being trumped up (pun intended) to enable the response they are taking which is VERY real.  I wasn't very clear with my statement.

  No worries, i did for a moment think you wanted to be crowned the absolute king of understatement.  But I agree as to what and where the "theater" is.   I have some concerns with what looks to be VERY disproportionate reactions to what is becoming the tale of two sets of protests.  I guess it really started with NY tossing the proud boys into prison for some stiff sentences for what was a street brawl where no one was injured.

[KingCheops]

  I think the main thing to remember about this whole thing though is make sure if you attend a peaceful protest, you are in fact protesting for the correct side.  Because it is the difference between being let off with no charges and doing damn near 8 years in prison for putting your feet on a desk.

8 years in solitary and having your face punched such that your orbital bone gets broken.

FOIA in the "QAnon Shaman" just resulted in a video tape being released where he had a calm discussion with capital police where the police said they could come in to the building and the police would escort them around.  The Shaman tells everyone to just be peaceful and the cops sure enough follow them around and escort them through the various rooms including letting them take seflies/pictures in Mike Pence's seat.

The whole thing is political theater.

  Theater?   To me that is when some republican pretends to care by asking some hardish questions to some establishment talking head.  Going to prison for 8 years with no parole is waaaaaaaay past theatre and a pretty serious shot across the bow IMO.  I am fairly certain there will be no return fire though, so I fully expect going to prison for the wrong protest to be fully the rule/law of the day.

Ah yes you are correct.  The Jan 6 "insurrection" is political theater.  It is being trumped up (pun intended) to enable the response they are taking which is VERY real.  I wasn't very clear with my statement.

  No worries, i did for a moment think you wanted to be crowned the absolute king of understatement.  But I agree as to what and where the "theater" is.   I have some concerns with what looks to be VERY disproportionate reactions to what is becoming the tale of two sets of protests.  I guess it really started with NY tossing the proud boys into prison for some stiff sentences for what was a street brawl where no one was injured.

The thing that is still utterly shocking to me, even after years of my dipshit communist father spouting his crap, is how these assholes on the left don't realize that once all the "white supremacist qanon proud boy crazies" are dealt with they're coming for the leftists next.  Twitter has already started purging Antifart which was the preliminary step they took with those of us on the right.  Once the neo-con/neo-lib Great Reset happens the Antifart brownshirts in Portland and Minneapolis will be rounded up and locked in solitary with no trial and frequent beatings.

[JRR]

"A riot is an ugly thing, and I think it is just about time that we had one!"

[jhkim]

The thing that is still utterly shocking to me, even after years of my dipshit communist father spouting his crap, is how these assholes on the left don't realize that once all the "white supremacist qanon proud boy crazies" are dealt with they're coming for the leftists next.  Twitter has already started purging Antifart which was the preliminary step they took with those of us on the right.  Once the neo-con/neo-lib Great Reset happens the Antifart brownshirts in Portland and Minneapolis will be rounded up and locked in solitary with no trial and frequent beatings.

From my view, the government and establishment has already come after those on the left.

Certainly for most of my lifetime, the norm was that it was leftist protesters who were thrown in jail and locked up, not conservatives. The people who were shut down and cancelled were primarily communists, queers, and other left-leaning types. I've read lots of stories for decades about left-leaning activists who are locked in solitary and/or beaten. At the time, the right tended to ignore such treatment, usually under the claim that law and order was more important than worrying about civil rights.


I welcome more support for civil rights against the government. No one should be rounded up and locked in solitary with no trial and frequent beatings, regardless of whether they are left-leaning or right-leaning. And I've been advocating for this for decades.

[oggsmash]

The thing that is still utterly shocking to me, even after years of my dipshit communist father spouting his crap, is how these assholes on the left don't realize that once all the "white supremacist qanon proud boy crazies" are dealt with they're coming for the leftists next.  Twitter has already started purging Antifart which was the preliminary step they took with those of us on the right.  Once the neo-con/neo-lib Great Reset happens the Antifart brownshirts in Portland and Minneapolis will be rounded up and locked in solitary with no trial and frequent beatings.

From my view, the government and establishment has already come after those on the left.

Certainly for most of my lifetime, the norm was that it was leftist protesters who were thrown in jail and locked up, not conservatives. The people who were shut down and cancelled were primarily communists, queers, and other left-leaning types. I've read lots of stories for decades about left-leaning activists who are locked in solitary and/or beaten. At the time, the right tended to ignore such treatment, usually under the claim that law and order was more important than worrying about civil rights.


I welcome more support for civil rights against the government. No one should be rounded up and locked in solitary with no trial and frequent beatings, regardless of whether they are left-leaning or right-leaning. And I've been advocating for this for decades.

      I am sure you were right up front when Randy Weaver was getting his wife and kid slaughtered in the mountains.

[Ghostmaker]

The thing that is still utterly shocking to me, even after years of my dipshit communist father spouting his crap, is how these assholes on the left don't realize that once all the "white supremacist qanon proud boy crazies" are dealt with they're coming for the leftists next.  Twitter has already started purging Antifart which was the preliminary step they took with those of us on the right.  Once the neo-con/neo-lib Great Reset happens the Antifart brownshirts in Portland and Minneapolis will be rounded up and locked in solitary with no trial and frequent beatings.

From my view, the government and establishment has already come after those on the left.

Certainly for most of my lifetime, the norm was that it was leftist protesters who were thrown in jail and locked up, not conservatives. The people who were shut down and cancelled were primarily communists, queers, and other left-leaning types. I've read lots of stories for decades about left-leaning activists who are locked in solitary and/or beaten. At the time, the right tended to ignore such treatment, usually under the claim that law and order was more important than worrying about civil rights.


I welcome more support for civil rights against the government. No one should be rounded up and locked in solitary with no trial and frequent beatings, regardless of whether they are left-leaning or right-leaning. And I've been advocating for this for decades.

      I am sure you were right up front when Randy Weaver was getting his wife and kid slaughtered in the mountains.

Well, the Feebs did harass the living shit out of the Weather Underground.

But funny how that all worked out.

[deadDMwalking]

I find it incongruent that I've heard people on this board indicate a rapist shouldn't suffer any consequences until they have been convicted, but now violations of the law shouldn't have consequences after a conviction. 

Of course, I believe that there should be fewer restrictions/punishments for protesters (such as not charging them for criminal trespass), but several such measures criminalizing peaceful protest were passed by Republican legislatures over concers about pipelines and BLM.

The judicial system is not heavily biased against traditional 'Republicans'. 

In any case, you can take comfort that these 'patriots' aren't suffering any worse than Civil Rights advocates.   "Unearned suffering is redemptive."

[moonsweeper]

The thing that is still utterly shocking to me, even after years of my dipshit communist father spouting his crap, is how these assholes on the left don't realize that once all the "white supremacist qanon proud boy crazies" are dealt with they're coming for the leftists next.  Twitter has already started purging Antifart which was the preliminary step they took with those of us on the right.  Once the neo-con/neo-lib Great Reset happens the Antifart brownshirts in Portland and Minneapolis will be rounded up and locked in solitary with no trial and frequent beatings.

From my view, the government and establishment has already come after those on the left.

Certainly for most of my lifetime, the norm was that it was leftist protesters who were thrown in jail and locked up, not conservatives. The people who were shut down and cancelled were primarily communists, queers, and other left-leaning types. I've read lots of stories for decades about left-leaning activists who are locked in solitary and/or beaten. At the time, the right tended to ignore such treatment, usually under the claim that law and order was more important than worrying about civil rights.


I welcome more support for civil rights against the government. No one should be rounded up and locked in solitary with no trial and frequent beatings, regardless of whether they are left-leaning or right-leaning. And I've been advocating for this for decades.

      I am sure you were right up front when Randy Weaver was getting his wife and kid slaughtered in the mountains.

Well, the Feebs did harass the living shit out of the Weather Underground.

But funny how that all worked out.

Now in all fairness, all WU did was plant some bombs...
and obviously the one at the capitol was far less devastating than the 1-6-21 breach.

I mean it isn't like Weaver at all.  He had the audacity to refuse to infiltrate a dangerous organization and become an undercover informant for the FBI...of course that means they needed to have a sniper murder his wife as an object lesson.

[Shasarak]

I find it incongruent that I've heard people on this board indicate a rapist shouldn't suffer any consequences until they have been convicted, but now violations of the law shouldn't have consequences after a conviction. 

Of course, I believe that there should be fewer restrictions/punishments for protesters (such as not charging them for criminal trespass), but several such measures criminalizing peaceful protest were passed by Republican legislatures over concers about pipelines and BLM.

The judicial system is not heavily biased against traditional 'Republicans'. 

In any case, you can take comfort that these 'patriots' aren't suffering any worse than Civil Rights advocates.   "Unearned suffering is redemptive."

Jesus, what happened to you dude?

[Ghostmaker]

I find it incongruent that I've heard people on this board indicate a rapist shouldn't suffer any consequences until they have been convicted, but now violations of the law shouldn't have consequences after a conviction. 

Of course, I believe that there should be fewer restrictions/punishments for protesters (such as not charging them for criminal trespass), but several such measures criminalizing peaceful protest were passed by Republican legislatures over concers about pipelines and BLM.

The judicial system is not heavily biased against traditional 'Republicans'. 

In any case, you can take comfort that these 'patriots' aren't suffering any worse than Civil Rights advocates.   "Unearned suffering is redemptive."

I'm sorry you failed all your classes in how the Constitution works, specifically the rules on due process and speedy trials.