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Author Topic: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021  (Read 117630 times)

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #630 on: January 26, 2021, 02:25:46 PM »
All Sydney has to do is demonstrate the machines don't work as advertised, or that they can be easily manipulated or modified, by any group intent on cheating during the election.

I'll wager right now, this case will be quietly settled with a gag order because if the truth gets these machines were literally designed for cheating, then the entire election process is borked. Just like the banks are too big to fail, the election is too big to throw. I'm watching this case with interest.
Dominion has a solid case and doesn't fear discovery at all.  Every release of their machines and software have been audited by third parties and States for years.
I predict they won't settle because the survival of the company is on the line because of the allegations.
I also predict Powell will very likely be disbarred after she loses this case.

I tend more to agree with DocJones - this is extremely serious for Dominion's business, so I don't think they'll settle without a full public retraction.

Of course, if there is a public retraction, then plenty of people will just say that the court case was rigged - just like everything else.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #631 on: January 26, 2021, 02:37:35 PM »
Of course, if there is a public retraction, then plenty of people will just say that the court case was rigged - just like everything else.
It's already happening with news outlets and persons making retractions. 
They've become part of "the conspiracy", which apparently includes everyone but President Trump. 
I have become ashamed by some of my fellow conservatives who have dived deep into these conspiracies.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #632 on: January 26, 2021, 02:48:55 PM »
Dominions is already screwed.  No one is going to trust them with another election even if they win their case.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #633 on: January 26, 2021, 04:47:12 PM »
Not to put too fine a point on it, but voting machines will always be considered shady, and rightfully so. People don't understand machines, don't know what's going on inside machines, and will never fully trust machines in their voting. The only time-tested method of vote counting is the decentralised method of paper ballots, and local election committees staffed by the main rival parties spending an unpleasant day looking over each others' desks.

Of course, people didn't trust the voting machines in 2020 either. Then they were told en masse to shut up or face the consequences. I am sure this has made their concerns vanish overnight.
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #634 on: January 26, 2021, 05:27:27 PM »
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #635 on: January 26, 2021, 06:23:24 PM »
Not to put too fine a point on it, but voting machines will always be considered shady, and rightfully so. People don't understand machines, don't know what's going on inside machines, and will never fully trust machines in their voting. The only time-tested method of vote counting is the decentralised method of paper ballots, and local election committees staffed by the main rival parties spending an unpleasant day looking over each others' desks.

Of course, people didn't trust the voting machines in 2020 either. Then they were told en masse to shut up or face the consequences. I am sure this has made their concerns vanish overnight.

Voting machines have been in widespread use for over 120 years, and it's not like voting in the 1800s was free from fraud. Tammany Hall in New York was notorious for rigging elections, as was the Post-Reconstruction South. Most states have had almost entirely voting machines for the better part of a century, and vastly more experience with them than pure hand counts.

And in the 2020 general election, there were just as many accusations of fraud against *ballot workers* as there were against *voting machines* -- including many accusations of fraudulent ballots as well as fraudulent counting. There was a hand tally of paper ballots in Georgia, for example, but Trump supporters ignored the result of that - claiming it to be just as fraudulent as the machine count.

Based on this, I think going to hand count only would introduce a ton of problems, and do nothing to change opinion about fraud. For the record, I am opposed to pure electronic voting machines (DRE) or especially to Internet voting, but I think optical scan systems are a good choice.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #636 on: January 26, 2021, 06:27:11 PM »
For the record, I am opposed to pure electronic voting machines (DRE) or especially to Internet voting, but I think optical scan systems are a good choice.
I'm a fan of moving to only internet voting. Restrict it to one vote per IP address, and everything should be fine.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #637 on: January 26, 2021, 06:32:20 PM »
For the record, I am opposed to pure electronic voting machines (DRE) or especially to Internet voting, but I think optical scan systems are a good choice.
I'm a fan of moving to only internet voting. Restrict it to one vote per IP address, and everything should be fine.

How would that work for those of us that have more then one voter per IP address?
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #638 on: January 26, 2021, 06:33:55 PM »
For the record, I am opposed to pure electronic voting machines (DRE) or especially to Internet voting, but I think optical scan systems are a good choice.
I'm a fan of moving to only internet voting. Restrict it to one vote per IP address, and everything should be fine.

How would that work for those of us that have more then one voter per IP address?
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #639 on: January 26, 2021, 06:43:35 PM »
For the record, I am opposed to pure electronic voting machines (DRE) or especially to Internet voting, but I think optical scan systems are a good choice.
I'm a fan of moving to only internet voting. Restrict it to one vote per IP address, and everything should be fine.

How would that work for those of us that have more then one voter per IP address?
Be the first to connect to the network in the Panera parking lot on election day.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #640 on: January 26, 2021, 06:51:41 PM »
For the record, I am opposed to pure electronic voting machines (DRE) or especially to Internet voting, but I think optical scan systems are a good choice.
I'm a fan of moving to only internet voting. Restrict it to one vote per IP address, and everything should be fine.

You joke - but parts of the U.S. have gone ahead with Internet-based voting.

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West Virginia and counties in Utah, Oregon and Colorado are at different stages in implementing a new Internet voting app to allow overseas and military voters to cast votes on their phones.

The goal is to make things easier for some of the voters who are farthest away.

"These are the people who are putting their lives on the line on a daily basis, and yet their votes haven't been counted up to this point," said Mac Warner, West Virginia's secretary of state, in pointing to a study that showed a dismal rate of accepted ballots among active-duty military voters in 2016.

Source: https://www.npr.org/2019/11/07/776403310/in-2020-some-americans-will-vote-on-their-phones-is-that-the-future

cf. also https://www.eballot.com/blog/these-states-allow-online-voting-for-their-citizens-is-your-state-one-of-them

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #641 on: January 26, 2021, 07:27:17 PM »
You joke - but parts of the U.S. have gone ahead with Internet-based voting.
Doesn't sound secure. They should go with a clear, transparent, open, and verifiable system. Maybe something based on the blockchain. Which would have added benefit of keeping a public record of everyone everyone has ever voted for. That would make it much easier to set up Truth and Reconciliation Commissions in the future, employers could ensure none of their employees ever voted for the wrong person, and other companies could enforce it by refusing to do business with any companies that hire anyone with a deplorable voting history.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #642 on: January 26, 2021, 08:13:11 PM »
Trump opens the "Office of the Former President".

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-opens-office-of-the-former-president-social-media-ban-2021-1

Is he deliberately trolling Biden and that silly "Office of the President-Elect"?

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #643 on: January 26, 2021, 08:43:07 PM »
Trump opens the "Office of the Former President".

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-opens-office-of-the-former-president-social-media-ban-2021-1

Is he deliberately trolling Biden and that silly "Office of the President-Elect"?
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #644 on: January 26, 2021, 09:22:55 PM »
Trump opens the "Office of the Former President".

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-opens-office-of-the-former-president-social-media-ban-2021-1

Is he deliberately trolling Biden and that silly "Office of the President-Elect"?

The President-elect thing dates from Obama in 2008.  I think Trump trolled them with it in 2016 if I remember right.  So I think he's just trolling in general.
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