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Author Topic: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021  (Read 19991 times)

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #450 on: January 14, 2021, 07:38:59 PM »
Not sure how much of a difference it makes at this point, but one “anti-fascist” leftist* has been confirmed to have entered the Capitol building during the riot. He says he wanted to document the moment, but looks like he was deliberately fanning the flames while doing so.

*(though he says he’s not Antifa, this description is clearly correct)

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #451 on: January 14, 2021, 07:45:51 PM »
Speaking of reestablishing norms, in response to the mostly peaceful but terrifying events that led lawmakers to courageously cower in their chambers or bravely flee, metal detectors have suddenly appeared at the entrances to the House floor.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/rep-boebert-clashes-with-capitol-police-over-metal-detector/

This wouldn't have affected the protesters in the slightest, so it must be a response to the danger presented by members of Congress. They're telling us we clearly can't trust them.

Members of Congress are explicitly telling us other members of Congress are not trustworthy. Some may have given inside information, either in advance reconnaissance or sharing information during the insurrection, or incited the insurrectionists whether strongly or lightly. I'm looking forward to hearing the results of the investigations.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #452 on: January 14, 2021, 08:29:51 PM »
Speaking of reestablishing norms, in response to the mostly peaceful but terrifying events that led lawmakers to courageously cower in their chambers or bravely flee, metal detectors have suddenly appeared at the entrances to the House floor.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/rep-boebert-clashes-with-capitol-police-over-metal-detector/

This wouldn't have affected the protesters in the slightest, so it must be a response to the danger presented by members of Congress. They're telling us we clearly can't trust them.

Members of Congress are explicitly telling us other members of Congress are not trustworthy. Some may have given inside information, either in advance reconnaissance or sharing information during the insurrection, or incited the insurrectionists whether strongly or lightly. I'm looking forward to hearing the results of the investigations.

Uhhh...have you ever been to the House of Representatives???  Their are maps available, votes are scheduled and you are free to walk around with your Rep if they have time...my grandma could do 'advanced recon' over the damn internet and then spend a couple of hours touring the building to get an actual 'lay of the land' feel...
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #453 on: January 14, 2021, 08:49:12 PM »
I'm glad they went after Trump. Eventually, the Democrates are going to lose, and whoever is in power at the time should prosecute people like Maxine Waters for doing what Trump did. No should be above the law.

Maxine Waters extorted the President of Ukraine and incited an insurrection that killed people? Is this a Q conspiracy theory thing? I did find this, but it doesn't say what the citizen's arrest would have been for:
https://www.silive.com/news/2019/03/suspect-in-mob-boss-shooting-tried-to-make-citizens-arrest-of-mayor-elected-officials.html

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #454 on: January 14, 2021, 08:57:13 PM »
Come on, Maxine Waters is a racist but she is no criminal master mind.
"There can be no middle ground with bigots. Bigots want to deny the rights and livelihood of people different from them. They want them to cease existing, either by going underground or by murdering them. There is no "let's meet in the middle" with that. To suggest there can be is ignorance" RPGNet

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #455 on: January 14, 2021, 09:09:03 PM »
Here's something interesting:
Evidence uncovered so far, including weapons and tactics seen on surveillance video, suggests a level of planning that has led investigators to believe the attack on the US Capitol was not just a protest that spiraled out of control.
from: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/capitol-riot-investigation/index.html
Also: https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1349536597004460033

Tuesday, January 19: Transmittal of Article of Impeachment to the Senate:
It’s up to Nancy Pelosi to decide when to march the managers over to the Senate to “exhibit” the article and trigger a trial under the procedures set up in the upper chamber’s standing rules governing impeachment. 
  If the House managers show up the minute the Senate goes back into session, then an impeachment trial would begin at 1 p.m. the following day — which happens to be Inauguration Day. 
from: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/timeline-trump-second-impeachment.html

Federal procurement docs that show the Secret Service has hired a company called Showcall Security Services to help out with the inauguration in January. The company scored a $7.5 million contract for the job … and it sounds like they’ll be worth every dime of taxpayer money. Turns out, a division of Showcall, named Checkmate, is what’ll be deployed here — and a glance at their specialties shows why they cost a pretty penny. Checkmate boasts “temporary deployable security assets” that create “hardened perimeters,” which can stop vehicle-borne threats and attempted weapons hand-offs of people who get past checkpoints.
from:  https://www.tmz.com/2020/12/16/biden-inauguration-security-company-contract-services-checkmate-expensive/
Point:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/caught-video-antifa-protester-john-sullivan-brags-posing-trump-supporter-breaking-window-us-capitol-building-riots/
The militant Black Lives Matter and Antifa activist John Sullivan’s discord shows the so-called “civil rights activist” reveling inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan.6 as he damaged federal property. Sullivan has maintained in multiple interviews that he regularly attends protests only to record what’s going on, but did not actively partake in the insurgence in Washington. Yet, in footage streamed to followers on his discord server, Sullivan, who uses the Discord name “Jayden X”, can be heard inciting violence from inside the U.S. Capitol and boasting about breaking a window. “If we don’t get in, we’re going to burn this shit down,” he gloats. “Let’s go! This shit’s ours. Fuck yeah. I can’t believe this is reality. We accomplished this shit. We did this shit together.” “I didn’t know I hit it [the window] that hard. No one got that on camera,” he continues. “Fuck the blue! Fuck the blue!” “It’s all fake,” he explains. “I learned that shit already – I am going to wear a Trump hat. I am going to wear a Trump hat. I bought one today,” he says. “I was wearing a Trump hat at the last Trump rally, at that Trump rally during the daytime because I was like, ‘nah, that shit ain’t happening, bro.

counter-point: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/21_0112_plcy_dhs-china-sap.pdf
Page 7:
“Threats to our Elections and Other Critical Infrastructure Beijing intensified its influence efforts ahead of the 2020 U.S. elections to shape the U.S. policy environment, sway political figures it viewed as antithetical to its interests, and deflect and counter PRC-related criticisms. These pernicious efforts have the potential to deny Americans the fundamental right to make electoral decisions free from nefarious influence.”

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #456 on: January 14, 2021, 09:12:12 PM »
As a side note, also this:

So something that applies only to the actual Rules of the House of Representatives, and not to speeches, bills or other House business, is ... not being applied to speeches, bills or other House business? Wow, the absolutely shocking ... consistency, I guess?

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #457 on: January 14, 2021, 09:57:38 PM »
Speaking of reestablishing norms, in response to the mostly peaceful but terrifying events that led lawmakers to courageously cower in their chambers or bravely flee, metal detectors have suddenly appeared at the entrances to the House floor.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/rep-boebert-clashes-with-capitol-police-over-metal-detector/

This wouldn't have affected the protesters in the slightest, so it must be a response to the danger presented by members of Congress. They're telling us we clearly can't trust them.

Members of Congress are explicitly telling us other members of Congress are not trustworthy. Some may have given inside information, either in advance reconnaissance or sharing information during the insurrection, or incited the insurrectionists whether strongly or lightly. I'm looking forward to hearing the results of the investigations.

Uhhh...have you ever been to the House of Representatives???  Their are maps available, votes are scheduled and you are free to walk around with your Rep if they have time...my grandma could do 'advanced recon' over the damn internet and then spend a couple of hours touring the building to get an actual 'lay of the land' feel...

And yet ... reports that insurrectionists found unlabelled offices. And reports of suspicious tours the day before, after months in a pandemic. Better to wait and see what the investigations show.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/capitol-insurrection-insider-help/index.html

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #458 on: January 14, 2021, 10:08:38 PM »
Speaking of reestablishing norms, in response to the mostly peaceful but terrifying events that led lawmakers to courageously cower in their chambers or bravely flee, metal detectors have suddenly appeared at the entrances to the House floor.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/rep-boebert-clashes-with-capitol-police-over-metal-detector/

This wouldn't have affected the protesters in the slightest, so it must be a response to the danger presented by members of Congress. They're telling us we clearly can't trust them.

Members of Congress are explicitly telling us other members of Congress are not trustworthy. Some may have given inside information, either in advance reconnaissance or sharing information during the insurrection, or incited the insurrectionists whether strongly or lightly. I'm looking forward to hearing the results of the investigations.

Uhhh...have you ever been to the House of Representatives???  Their are maps available, votes are scheduled and you are free to walk around with your Rep if they have time...my grandma could do 'advanced recon' over the damn internet and then spend a couple of hours touring the building to get an actual 'lay of the land' feel...

And yet ... reports that insurrectionists found unlabelled offices. And reports of suspicious tours the day before, after months in a pandemic. Better to wait and see what the investigations show.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/capitol-insurrection-insider-help/index.html
Here. Read this and explain you PoS:
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2017/01/06/house-section/article/H185-8
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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #459 on: January 14, 2021, 10:49:12 PM »
Speaking of reestablishing norms, in response to the mostly peaceful but terrifying events that led lawmakers to courageously cower in their chambers or bravely flee, metal detectors have suddenly appeared at the entrances to the House floor.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/rep-boebert-clashes-with-capitol-police-over-metal-detector/

This wouldn't have affected the protesters in the slightest, so it must be a response to the danger presented by members of Congress. They're telling us we clearly can't trust them.

Members of Congress are explicitly telling us other members of Congress are not trustworthy. Some may have given inside information, either in advance reconnaissance or sharing information during the insurrection, or incited the insurrectionists whether strongly or lightly. I'm looking forward to hearing the results of the investigations.

Uhhh...have you ever been to the House of Representatives???  Their are maps available, votes are scheduled and you are free to walk around with your Rep if they have time...my grandma could do 'advanced recon' over the damn internet and then spend a couple of hours touring the building to get an actual 'lay of the land' feel...

And yet ... reports that insurrectionists found unlabelled offices. And reports of suspicious tours the day before, after months in a pandemic. Better to wait and see what the investigations show.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/capitol-insurrection-insider-help/index.html

So a few (D) lawmakers found the tours 'suspicious' after the fact, but not really enough to give a warning...or were those the 'warnings' that the FBI, Chuck, and Nancy ignored when they refused the capitol police requests for extra support...

...and really, an article that starts off that badly researched (Well, the second sentence at any rate)

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One week after the deadly insurrection at the Capitol, there are still more questions than answers on whether any lawmakers or police assisted the pro-Trump rioters.
The idea of an insurrection is unheard of in modern US history, and the possibility that lawmakers or allies inside the Capitol were helping only contributes to the uncertainty and worry about the event and what's to come.


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insurrection noun

in·​sur·​rec·​tion |  ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən

Definition of insurrection

: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/us/seattle-capitol-hill-chop-chaz-shooting/index.html

"I have a very hard time taking seriously someone who has the time and resources to protest capitalism, while walking around in Nike shoes and drinking Starbucks, while filming it on their iPhone."  --  Alderaan Crumbs

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #460 on: January 14, 2021, 11:39:03 PM »
As a side note, also this:

So something that applies only to the actual Rules of the House of Representatives, and not to speeches, bills or other House business, is ... not being applied to speeches, bills or other House business? Wow, the absolutely shocking ... inconsistency, I guess?

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #461 on: January 15, 2021, 02:19:27 AM »
LOL at insurrection.  I guess all that matters is who's windows get broken to go from a peaceful protest to insurrection. 

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #462 on: January 15, 2021, 02:33:57 AM »
LOL at insurrection.  I guess all that matters is who's windows get broken to go from a peaceful protest to insurrection.

Ya too strong.  They didn’t fire any weapons as far as I know. Mob of imbeciles now facing federal charges is more like it.  The only thing I’m wondering is if Trump will pardon any of them or leave them under the bus. 

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #463 on: January 15, 2021, 02:55:54 PM »
Speaking of reestablishing norms, in response to the mostly peaceful but terrifying events that led lawmakers to courageously cower in their chambers or bravely flee, metal detectors have suddenly appeared at the entrances to the House floor.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/rep-boebert-clashes-with-capitol-police-over-metal-detector/

This wouldn't have affected the protesters in the slightest, so it must be a response to the danger presented by members of Congress. They're telling us we clearly can't trust them.

Members of Congress are explicitly telling us other members of Congress are not trustworthy. Some may have given inside information, either in advance reconnaissance or sharing information during the insurrection, or incited the insurrectionists whether strongly or lightly. I'm looking forward to hearing the results of the investigations.
Or it could just be political theater stirring up drama to advance their political agendas.

Seems a lot more likely than some crazy conspiracy theory.

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Re: LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021
« Reply #464 on: January 15, 2021, 07:25:21 PM »
Finally... the time... has come... the killing game begins once more!
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Welcome to the literal end of you and your childrens lives.
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All Liberal Democrats Are Terrorists:
Kevin Seefried was pictured with Antifa rioter Aaron Mostofsky, a registered Democrat, on the stairs in the US Capitol. Kevin Seefried and his son Hunter were arrested Thursday in Delaware. Kevin Seefried was pictured in the White House carrying a Confederate flag during the riots. Kevin and Hunter Seefried were within a group of people that had a confrontation with police at the U.S. Capitol and who confronted U.S. Capitol Police.
https://v1.nitrocdn.com/PtUefQrfncdsWOjilqcqdvGyQbUvpoWC/assets/desktop/optimized/rev-f43d399/media/f27ee9440856fde8f723b2f5f9736f74.ErwzkS4XMAAl6Ap

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1349885882262761473
https://breaking911.com/breaking-blm-activist-arrested-for-siege-on-u-s-capitol/
John Earle Sullivan, a Black Lives Matter Activist and anti-Trumper, was charged by complaint with one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, and one count of interfering with law enforcement engaged in the lawful performance of their official duties incident to and during the commission of civil disorder.

https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1350093180918771712

IMPEACHMENT OF TRUMP WAS AND IS INSURRECTION
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1349926655125544962

NO VOICE ~ NO FREEDOM ~ NO DEMOCRACY JUST WHAT YOU ALL WANTED
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1349853804590579713

YOU WANT CONSPIRACIES FAGGOTS? HERE'S ONE
After last week’s deadly assault on the U.S. Capitol by supporters of President Donald Trump, members of Congress are expressing something once unthinkable: that some of their own colleagues may be endangering their lives. Not in a rhetorical sense, but in a direct and immediate way.
“It’s the most poisonous I’ve ever seen,” Rep. Don Beyer, D-Va., said in an interview. “There’s the overall sense that maybe if some of them have guns — and likely the ones who are more into conspiracy theories and QAnon with the pedophilic satanic rings — are we safe from them?”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/some-democrats-congress-are-worried-their-colleagues-might-kill-them-n1254319

NOW ITS TIME TO ROUND-UP AMERICANS! NOW ITS TIME! START WITH THESE PEOPLE: https://de.scribd.com/document/490496389/Battleground-Survey-Memo-01-12-21#fullscreen&from_embed

HERES YOU FUCKING THEORIES COME TO LIFE YOU LYING MURDERERS:

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE
THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY
THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY
THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
THE DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
SUBJECT:    Agency Cooperation with Attorney General’s Review of Intelligence Activities Relating to the 2016 Presidential Campaigns
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby direct the following:
Section 1.  Agency Cooperation.   The Attorney General is currently conducting a review of intelligence activities relating to the campaigns in the 2016 Presidential election and certain related matters.  The heads of elements of the intelligence community, as defined in 50 U.S.C. 3003(4), and the heads of each department or agency that includes an element of the intelligence community shall promptly provide such assistance and information as the Attorney General may request in connection with that review.
Sec. 2.  Declassification and Downgrading.   With respect to any matter classified under Executive Order 13526 of December 29, 2009 (Classified National Security Information), the Attorney General may, by applying the standard set forth in either section 3.1(a) or section 3.1(d) of Executive Order 13526, declassify, downgrade, or direct the declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence that relates to the Attorney General’s review referred to in section 1 of this memorandum.  Before exercising this authority, the Attorney General should, to the extent he deems it practicable, consult with the head of the originating intelligence community element or department.  This authority is not delegable and applies notwithstanding any other authorization or limitation set forth in Executive Order 13526.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/memorandum-agency-cooperation-attorney-generals-review-intelligence-activities-relating-2016-presidential-campaigns/

COME ONE, COME ALL TO THE SHOW
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/calm-before-storm-peace-dc-inauguration-impeachment
The NG current Rules of engagement are “cleared to use deadly force.”
Razor Wire. All to protect a BIDEN VIRTUAL INAUGURATION?
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