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Author Topic: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children  (Read 10061 times)

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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2021, 04:24:50 PM »
I talked to a European leftist recently. The kind who has their pronouns in their bio. We were discussing the Milgram experiment, and he said it “revealed people’s true personalities.” That’s a completely wrong takeaway from the experiment. The Milgram experiment highlights flaws in normal human psychology owing to our social nature.

Believing that it reveals “true personality” is... honestly, that’s the sort of logic to leads to accusations of thoughtcrime and holocausts.

Did you know that leftist “science” is increasingly claiming that there are biological differences between leftists and rightists? That scares me, because there’s no doubt in my mind that this would be used to justify concentration camps, lobotomies, and mass murder.

It’s ironic. Lefties claim to hate capital punishment but love to publicly fantasize about killing/raping people they don’t like, especially against women.

I don’t pretend to be omniscient. I’m intimidated by my lack of knowledge. That’s why I’m terrified of people who think they hold a monopoly on morality and anyone who disagrees is the Devil incarnate. That line of thinking leads to Holocausts.

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Hi BoxCrayonTales! Indeed, for all of the often self-aggrandized education that Leftists love to sneer about, it has become terrifyingly apparent over and over how most of them are not only deeply uneducated and ignorant--but delusional as well. Years ago, when I was in college, I had to endure a stupid Women's Studies class. The college professor--a woman, with a PHD!--maintained with a straight face that women were "just as strong as men!". The class had like 50 students in attendance--90% of which were girls. They all of course chirped their approval of the professor's claim. I wondered how the professor--or any of the other students in the class--had managed to pass a basic college Biology course. Any basic study in Biology would entirely disprove the professor and the women students of their giggling delusion. Women, as a sex, are NOT "just as strong as men." That is a universal FACT. Somehow, though, within the four walls of the Women's Studies department, they possessed deep, profound knowledge of a truth that any Biology professor was hopelessly ignorant of.

Then, this morning, I read an article where this medical OBGYN association declared that "In light of the knowledge that race is a social construct, and not based on biology, we..." These people are so fucking delusional they need to be put in an insane asylum. There are clear, distinct, biological differences between Indians, Africans, Caucasians, and Asians. Each possesses a whole range of distinctive features and attributes that are scientifically discernible, even from *skeletons* Diseases, immunities, and on and on. Social construct my ass. These people are fucking nuts.

More and more though, with a wide variety of issues, Leftists are proving that their ideological, Marxist utopian brainwashing is overwhelming their mental functions and absolutely subverting whatever it was they may have learned in college. Over and over again, they demonstrate they are cut off from all reason and rational thought. Not content with their own terrible and pathetic delusions, they gather like mobs of filthy, diseased rats, and scream and cry that everyone else in society affirms and agrees with their brainwashed, Marxist insanity.

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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2021, 04:43:48 PM »
I talked to a European leftist recently. The kind who has their pronouns in their bio. We were discussing the Milgram experiment, and he said it “revealed people’s true personalities.” That’s a completely wrong takeaway from the experiment. The Milgram experiment highlights flaws in normal human psychology owing to our social nature.

Believing that it reveals “true personality” is... honestly, that’s the sort of logic to leads to accusations of thoughtcrime and holocausts.

Did you know that leftist “science” is increasingly claiming that there are biological differences between leftists and rightists? That scares me, because there’s no doubt in my mind that this would be used to justify concentration camps, lobotomies, and mass murder.

It’s ironic. Lefties claim to hate capital punishment but love to publicly fantasize about killing/raping people they don’t like, especially against women.

I don’t pretend to be omniscient. I’m intimidated by my lack of knowledge. That’s why I’m terrified of people who think they hold a monopoly on morality and anyone who disagrees is the Devil incarnate. That line of thinking leads to Holocausts.

wouldn't worry too much about milgram, his data was heavily massaged. At least one good book on the subject
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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2021, 05:25:51 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2021, 08:40:44 PM »
It gets worse. Leftists also tell me that artists are “responsible” for their art and have to make political statements in all their work. You can’t just make entertainment, they think your art reflects your real life beliefs. If you write about a dictator coming to power, that means you support dictatorships unless you issue a retraction. These people are insane.

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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2021, 08:43:57 PM »
It gets worse. Leftists also tell me that artists are “responsible” for their art and have to make political statements in all their work. You can’t just make entertainment, they think your art reflects your real life beliefs. If you write about a dictator coming to power, that means you support dictatorships unless you issue a retraction. These people are insane.

okay yeah that is pretty fuckin stupid, I will enjoy my depraved art as I like it thankyouverymuch. just can't be that aesthetically conservative.
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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2021, 09:18:29 PM »
It gets worse. Leftists also tell me that artists are “responsible” for their art and have to make political statements in all their work. You can’t just make entertainment, they think your art reflects your real life beliefs. If you write about a dictator coming to power, that means you support dictatorships unless you issue a retraction. These people are insane.

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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2021, 04:03:55 AM »
Greetings!

Interesting, in this video, METATRON discusses how Marxist, SJW ideology is also infiltrating educational programs in Britain. The implications and brainwashing in Britain is similar to the nonsense being pumped here in America.

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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2021, 09:22:20 AM »
The BBC (and its American subsidiary, BBCA) is full of wokeist crap. The BBCA's adaptation of Pratchett's 'The Watch' series was so bad his daughter disavowed it, and with good reason.

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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2021, 11:04:30 AM »
Everyone in this country (other than Native Americans) came from somewhere else because it was a better deal for them and their futures.

Actually that's true for the Native Americans as well.  They aren't native to the Americas.  It's true for everywhere except Africa.
  Well, didnt they find the oldest Human fossil in Europe a few years ago and put everyone into an uproar?   

No, they found the earliest modern human (or so they think) outside Africa, together with Neanderthal remains, which is pretty cool. Meanwhile, they have found even older anatomically modern humans within Africa.

Huh cool.  Hadn't heard about that.  How do they figure the human got there?  Like it was a mutant Neanderthal?

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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2021, 11:31:45 AM »
Throwing in characters with a different origin where they don't belong is tantamount to retconning history.

"oh look, there was no racism in the roman empire. They had black officers!" Fuck yes there was and fuck no there wasnt.

"Cleopatra was black" No she wasnt. She was greek, with a sprinkling of Persian.

And now they're doing Gawaine, the black knight I mean, and the Green knight

Now, I will concede that Palamedes and his two brothers were saracens from the middle east, so there was knights of darker colors at the round table, but Gawaine was from somehwere up in Scotland.
If they, somehow, in the movie, infer that Palamedes or one of his brothers somehow cuckolded King Lot which then produced Gawaine, I will accept it because its, while reaching, at least plausible.

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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2021, 11:43:49 AM »
You'd think they'd be able to dig up actual historical stuff to play with. Like Yasuke, for example.

But no, it's all wokeist revisionism, all the way down.


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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2021, 11:58:19 AM »
I think cultural appropriation is awesome, so I'm fine with adapting stories to different cultures, regions and groups, including modern cosmopolitan tokenism.

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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2021, 12:27:12 PM »
Throwing in characters with a different origin where they don't belong is tantamount to retconning history.

"oh look, there was no racism in the roman empire. They had black officers!" Fuck yes there was and fuck no there wasnt.

"Cleopatra was black" No she wasnt. She was greek, with a sprinkling of Persian.

And now they're doing Gawaine, the black knight I mean, and the Green knight

Now, I will concede that Palamedes and his two brothers were saracens from the middle east, so there was knights of darker colors at the round table, but Gawaine was from somehwere up in Scotland.
If they, somehow, in the movie, infer that Palamedes or one of his brothers somehow cuckolded King Lot which then produced Gawaine, I will accept it because its, while reaching, at least plausible.

I understand people wanting to see characters who look like them and are part of the same broad culture heritage. That said, I feel rewriting history to be more politically correct is deeply offensive to the memory of all the people who were victimized under colonialism.

You'd think they'd be able to dig up actual historical stuff to play with. Like Yasuke, for example.

But no, it's all wokeist revisionism, all the way down.
Yeah, writers ignore actual non-white characters in Western mythos like Morien, Feirefiz, Memnon, Andromeda, Chariclea, etc in favor of racebending Zeus and Achilles. Because obviously that’s better than giving screen-time to originally non-white characters.

Also, Greek myth used “Ethiopia” in a very broad sense to refer to anyone with darker skin than Mediterranean. Andromeda could have been from Sub-Saharan Africa or India.

There’s also no shortage of non-white mythology than can be crossed over with. Greek myth includes references to Middle Eastern deities. Why not have Gilgamesh and Rama join the Argonauts?

I say Write alternate history or fantasy, because then you don’t have to worry about whitewashing racism.

I think cultural appropriation is awesome, so I'm fine with adapting stories to different cultures, regions and groups, including modern cosmopolitan tokenism.
I don’t have a problem with that. I loved the colorblind casting Cinderella movie with Whitney Houston. I loved that fairy tale anthology series where “The Little Mermaid” had an all-Asian cast. I do have a problem with people telling me I’m racist for preferring something with more internal consistency like Shadow & Bone over “we can’t decide if it’s colorblind casting or alternate history” Bridgerton.

With fantasy you have much more freedom to write your own human migrations. In Dragon Prince, humans originally lived in medieval ethnostates until they were forcibly resettled to another continent and economically pressured to integrate. Which neatly explains why the population hasn’t interbred to the point of becoming one race.

With colorblind casting you open a can of worms because SJWs complain if a non-white character is racebent... even if the character was written for colorblind casting.

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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2021, 12:43:32 PM »

I don’t have a problem with that. I loved the colorblind casting Cinderella movie with Whitney Houston. I loved that fairy tale anthology series where “The Little Mermaid” had an all-Asian cast. I do have a problem with people telling me I’m racist for preferring something with more internal consistency like Shadow & Bone over “we can’t decide if it’s colorblind casting or alternate history” Bridgerton.

With fantasy you have much more freedom to write your own human migrations. In Dragon Prince, humans originally lived in medieval ethnostates until they were forcibly resettled to another continent and economically pressured to integrate. Which neatly explains why the population hasn’t interbred to the point of becoming one race.

With colorblind casting you open a can of worms because SJWs complain if a non-white character is racebent... even if the character was written for colorblind casting.
I don't care if something was written to be race-blind or not.

I think it can be an issue with teaching history. The cartoon mentioned in the YouTube video upthread, for instance, which was supposed to be a historically accurate depiction of Roman Britain, and nearly every shot had a someone with sub-Saharan skin color. That's a problem, but it's a problem because the BBC are trying to rewrite history to fit their own racist ideals.

But it's almost never an issue with fiction, or fictional adaptations, because even if they're based on history, there are always major anachronistic elements. Extreme examples include shows like Xena with all the deliberately cultural and time mixing, random casting, and fantasy elements. But even historical dramas like Henry V are still fiction.

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Re: Leftist Curriculum Taught to American Children
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2021, 01:12:44 PM »
Throwing in characters with a different origin where they don't belong is tantamount to retconning history.

"oh look, there was no racism in the roman empire. They had black officers!" Fuck yes there was and fuck no there wasnt.

"Cleopatra was black" No she wasnt. She was greek, with a sprinkling of Persian.

And now they're doing Gawaine, the black knight I mean, and the Green knight

Now, I will concede that Palamedes and his two brothers were saracens from the middle east, so there was knights of darker colors at the round table, but Gawaine was from somehwere up in Scotland.
If they, somehow, in the movie, infer that Palamedes or one of his brothers somehow cuckolded King Lot which then produced Gawaine, I will accept it because its, while reaching, at least plausible.

I understand people wanting to see characters who look like them and are part of the same broad culture heritage. That said, I feel rewriting history to be more politically correct is deeply offensive to the memory of all the people who were victimized under colonialism.

You'd think they'd be able to dig up actual historical stuff to play with. Like Yasuke, for example.

But no, it's all wokeist revisionism, all the way down.
Yeah, writers ignore actual non-white characters in Western mythos like Morien, Feirefiz, Memnon, Andromeda, Chariclea, etc in favor of racebending Zeus and Achilles. Because obviously that’s better than giving screen-time to originally non-white characters.

Also, Greek myth used “Ethiopia” in a very broad sense to refer to anyone with darker skin than Mediterranean. Andromeda could have been from Sub-Saharan Africa or India.

There’s also no shortage of non-white mythology than can be crossed over with. Greek myth includes references to Middle Eastern deities. Why not have Gilgamesh and Rama join the Argonauts?

I say Write alternate history or fantasy, because then you don’t have to worry about whitewashing racism.

I think cultural appropriation is awesome, so I'm fine with adapting stories to different cultures, regions and groups, including modern cosmopolitan tokenism.
I don’t have a problem with that. I loved the colorblind casting Cinderella movie with Whitney Houston. I loved that fairy tale anthology series where “The Little Mermaid” had an all-Asian cast. I do have a problem with people telling me I’m racist for preferring something with more internal consistency like Shadow & Bone over “we can’t decide if it’s colorblind casting or alternate history” Bridgerton.

With fantasy you have much more freedom to write your own human migrations. In Dragon Prince, humans originally lived in medieval ethnostates until they were forcibly resettled to another continent and economically pressured to integrate. Which neatly explains why the population hasn’t interbred to the point of becoming one race.

With colorblind casting you open a can of worms because SJWs complain if a non-white character is racebent... even if the character was written for colorblind casting.

This guy gets it.

Like, Cleopatra was probably one of the whitest rulers of Egypt, seeing as she was a Greek with some Persian admixture.

There's also plenty of actual black historical figures that were unusual but also were highly achieved. Yasuke is one, as was the Queen of Sheba.

Both the Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions have a LOT of Middle Eastern figures appear (particularly the latter, as most of the Bible literally takes place in the Levant) and even a few Ethiopians appear.

This is just pure historical revisionism and blackwashing. Propaganda, plain and simple.
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