Therpgsite is the last bastion.

[Shipyard Locked]

Reactionary is a Commie word for "goes against anything Communists are pushing."

Meh, for what it's worth I don't like communism either, I work with too many Eastern Europeans and South Americans to have any illusions about that. I know that if the collapse comes I'll be shot against a wall regardless of whether the left-wing or right-wing extremists win.

But I think the dictionary definition of 'reactionary' is fine for describing how the rhetoric has heated up around here in the last six years.

I understand why you're frustrated though. The loudest part of the other side is pretty annoying in their moralizing hypocrisy, and they hold society's megaphone for now. For now.

Just like another flavor of moralizing hypocrites held that megaphone for a good long while in many places.

[David Johansen]

I think we get distracted by the distinctions, the positions and the taboos, and the outrage when really it's always assholes holding megaphones and maybe assholes and megaphones are the real problem.

[Shipyard Locked]

I think we get distracted by the distinctions, the positions and the taboos, and the outrage when really it's always assholes holding megaphones and maybe assholes and megaphones are the real problem.

Mmm, you're probably right there.

[blackstone]

Why the hate?

dishonesty is a pet peeve

Especially wrapped in a hypocritical blanket of self-promotion. Pundit is basically acting just like Daniel Fox.

elaborate please

[GeekyBugle]

Reactionary is a Commie word for "goes against anything Communists are pushing."

Meh, for what it's worth I don't like communism either, I work with too many Eastern Europeans and South Americans to have any illusions about that. I know that if the collapse comes I'll be shot against a wall regardless of whether the left-wing or right-wing extremists win.

But I think the dictionary definition of 'reactionary' is fine for describing how the rhetoric has heated up around here in the last six years.

I understand why you're frustrated though. The loudest part of the other side is pretty annoying in their moralizing hypocrisy, and they hold society's megaphone for now. For now.

Just like another flavor of moralizing hypocrites held that megaphone for a good long while in many places.

By the dictionary "reactionary" means someone opossed to changing the status quo am I right?

Ergo, anyone not on the left in current year can't be a reactionary BY DEFINITION:

Who holds the insitutional, economical, social, academic, cultural power? The left does, ergo the left IS the status quo, ergo I'm not a reactionary but a revolutionary.

[Shipyard Locked]

By the dictionary "reactionary" means someone opossed to changing the status quo am I right?

Ergo, anyone not on the left in current year can't be a reactionary BY DEFINITION:

Who holds the insitutional, economical, social, academic, cultural power? The left does, ergo the left IS the status quo, ergo I'm not a reactionary but a revolutionary.

I suppose. From some perspectives, in a purely semantic sense.

Fine, I'll say "aggressively partisan" instead of "reactionary". Would that be inaccurate?

[GeekyBugle]

By the dictionary "reactionary" means someone opossed to changing the status quo am I right?

Ergo, anyone not on the left in current year can't be a reactionary BY DEFINITION:

Who holds the insitutional, economical, social, academic, cultural power? The left does, ergo the left IS the status quo, ergo I'm not a reactionary but a revolutionary.

I suppose. From some perspectives, in a purely semantic sense.

Fine, I'll say "aggressively partisan" instead of "reactionary". Would that be inaccurate?

So you're claiming this forum is specially "aggressively partisan" in comparison with TBP?

I'll call bulshit, you have here people from very different political bent, sometimes agreeing and sometimes throwing the kitchen sink to each other.

Now show me another RPG forum where that's even possible, where I will not get banned for expressing my views while allowing leftards to express theirs.

[Shipyard Locked]

So you're claiming this forum is specially "aggressively partisan" in comparison with TBP?

I didn't even bring up TBP. I don't post on TBP. That they are aggressively partisan is self evident. The thread here about their moderation is a constant and amusing reminder of that.

The fact that theRPGsite is a free speech forum is certainly a point in its favor, but that doesn't change the fact that the tone around here is very aggressive and the voices that loudly prefer one side outnumber the voices that loudly prefer the other. I lurk here pretty often, it's kind of obvious.

I'm not even sure why it's bothering you that I point this out. Most of you guys seem to wear your fierce opposition as a badge of honor. Is "aggressively partisan" really a slur at this point, or just an observation?

[GeekyBugle]

So you're claiming this forum is specially "aggressively partisan" in comparison with TBP?

I didn't even bring up TBP. I don't post on TBP. That they are aggressively partisan is self evident. The thread here about their moderation is a constant and amusing reminder of that.

The fact that theRPGsite is a free speech forum is certainly a point in its favor, but that doesn't change the fact that the tone around here is very aggressive and the voices that loudly prefer one side outnumber the voices that loudly prefer the other. I lurk here pretty often, it's kind of obvious.

I'm not even sure why it's bothering you that I point this out. Most of you guys seem to wear your fierce opposition as a badge of honor. Is "aggressively partisan" really a slur at this point, or just an observation?

So what it would take for the forum (not the posters) to not be "aggressively partisan"? Banning ANY deviation from the cult's dogma?

It doesn't bother me, I'm also not angry, I'm questioning your assertions.

You claimed the forum was reactionary, then said it was by the dictionary definition, when I challenged that with facts and logic you retreated to say it was semantics to come back with the partisan thing.

For the Forum to be partisan you'd need to prove ONE side gets the shaft while the other doesn't, but here you get banned regardless of your politics by infringing the rules.

Can you provide proof that backs your assertions?

[Shipyard Locked]

So what it would take for the forum (not the posters) to not be "aggressively partisan"?

I think all it would need to do is encourage everyone to collectively cool the rhetoric down a few notches. Wouldn't even need to change the talking points.

Of course, this is assuming that's even something this forum wants. Maybe the internet needs an overt counterweight to the Big Purple. That said, it's not really a surprise if some people don't like the heat and go searching for other, less aggressive forums.

[Grognard GM]

So what it would take for the forum (not the posters) to not be "aggressively partisan"?

I think all it would need to do is encourage everyone to collectively cool the rhetoric down a few notches. Wouldn't even need to change the talking points.

Of course, this is assuming that's even something this forum wants. Maybe the internet needs an overt counterweight to the Big Purple. That said, it's not really a surprise if some people don't like the heat and go searching for other, less aggressive forums.

Place like this are a release valve. 6-7 years ago people could post their opinions on any news article, critique any politician or movie, and generally express themselves.

Now with speech locked down tight in to "truthful and heroic" vs "hateful lies that we can't trust to cross your retinas" it's no wonder people need to grouse here. I know I find it a relief.

Anyway, what's with the expectation that all locations need to be milquetoast and 'properly' balanced?

[Shipyard Locked]

Now with speech locked down tight in to "truthful and heroic" vs "hateful lies that we can't trust to cross your retinas" it's no wonder people need to grouse here. I know I find it a relief.

Understandable.

At the same time, you can understand that some people want to take a break from the forces trying to divide us, and find relief in a forum that tries to be escapist first and foremost. Different strokes for different folks, not that one is better than the other.

[Grognard GM]

Now with speech locked down tight in to "truthful and heroic" vs "hateful lies that we can't trust to cross your retinas" it's no wonder people need to grouse here. I know I find it a relief.

Understandable.

At the same time, you can understand that some people want to take a break from the forces trying to divide us, and find relief in a forum that tries to be escapist first and foremost. Different strokes for different folks, not that one is better than the other.

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but enjoy your enlightened neutral sites while you can. Because a llllllooooooootttttttt of neutral sites have turned in to Far Left echo chambers in the last decade. The infiltrators REALLY care about subverting, and polite neutrality gets knocked over like cardboard in a gale.

[Shipyard Locked]

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but enjoy your enlightened neutral sites while you can.

Well, nothing lasts forever. Fortunately, that includes pushy ideologies.

[RPGPundit]

Greetings!

The whole idea that somehow Pundit *needs* to go to some other stupid fucking forum seems entirely pointless. Pundit has an entire forum, right here. With many active members every day. Why the fuck would Pundit even want to go to some small, obscure forum? Furthermore, why would he specifically want to go to some forum where there are people there that nurse hatred and jealousy of him? In addition, many of the members of RPGPUB are formerly members here, that Pundit BANNED. So, yeah. Probably more than just a few people there have hatred for Pundit, and sufficient reason for resentment. To pretend otherwise seems to be wishful thinking at best.

For Pundit, some small, obscure forum like the RPG Pub is entirely irrelevant.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I'll note that very very few of them are Banned rpgsite members. For the most part its hugely difficult to get banned here, and most of them did not do anything banworthy. Not liking me is not ban-worthy. Which is the irony; they could have kept right on posting here, the only thing is they couldn't get to censor other people here.