Therpgsite is the last bastion.

[Abraxus]

You don't have to go then I guess as usual you want to keep doing the equivalent of talking out of your ass on the subject.

Hate to tell you except for a few posters who have an extremely dislike of you no one cares let alone talks or refers to you most of the time.

I stupidly thought you were different Pundit sad to see I was wrong. Keep living in your carefully constructed world of personal narratives.

[Eirikrautha]

You don't have to go then I guess as usual you want to keep doing the equivalent of talking out of your ass on the subject.

Hate to tell you except for a few posters who have an extremely dislike of you no one cares let alone talks or refers to you most of the time.

I stupidly thought you were different Pundit sad to see I was wrong. Keep living in your carefully constructed world of personal narratives.

So RPGPundit declines to go on a message board where several of the posters aggressively hate him, and this reflects poorly on ... the Pundit?

Does not compute...

[blackstone]

You don't have to go then I guess as usual you want to keep doing the equivalent of talking out of your ass on the subject.

Hate to tell you except for a few posters who have an extremely dislike of you no one cares let alone talks or refers to you most of the time.

I stupidly thought you were different Pundit sad to see I was wrong. Keep living in your carefully constructed world of personal narratives.

troll on bro. Troll on...

[SHARK]

Greetings!

The whole idea that somehow Pundit *needs* to go to some other stupid fucking forum seems entirely pointless. Pundit has an entire forum, right here. With many active members every day. Why the fuck would Pundit even want to go to some small, obscure forum? Furthermore, why would he specifically want to go to some forum where there are people there that nurse hatred and jealousy of him? In addition, many of the members of RPGPUB are formerly members here, that Pundit BANNED. So, yeah. Probably more than just a few people there have hatred for Pundit, and sufficient reason for resentment. To pretend otherwise seems to be wishful thinking at best.

For Pundit, some small, obscure forum like the RPG Pub is entirely irrelevant.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[KindaMeh]

Also, wasn't that forum made or at least publicly advertised on its forums as an attempt to take Pundit down or make him less relevant? I kinda wouldn't want to visit there even if things had changed, were I him. Plus, this forum seems to work just fine for his purposes, and we wouldn't want a decreased focus here, I feel.

That said, it's fine if folks like both forums, albeit for different purposes. You do you, and let us know if something cool or relevant to rpgs comes up there. It's nice that both exist, but that doesn't mean both are equally for everyone.

[Tristram Evans]

Why would I go to a forum that was created explicitly as a bad imitation of theRPGsite but with the premise that I needed to be 'taken out'?

That lie is a narcissistic delusion of your own imagination. But no, you shouldn't go to the Pub, because you have nothing of value to contribute there.

[KindaMeh]

One thing I will say about this forum is that Pundit is much more tolerant of backtalk and the like than most other places are. Here the rules don't penalize arguing with the mods unless in doing so you break a threadban or other legit rule that is entirely unrelated. Can you imagine getting away with similar character attacks on mods on TBP? I like it, to be frank. Even if it probably makes it a bit more stressful for Pundit and brettmb and whatnot.

[blackstone]

Why would I go to a forum that was created explicitly as a bad imitation of theRPGsite but with the premise that I needed to be 'taken out'?

That lie is a narcissistic delusion of your own imagination. But no, you shouldn't go to the Pub, because you have nothing of value to contribute there.

Why the hate?

[jhkim]

One thing I will say about this forum is that Pundit is much more tolerant of backtalk and the like than most other places are. Here the rules don't penalize arguing with the mods unless in doing so you break a threadban or other legit rule that is entirely unrelated. Can you imagine getting away with similar character attacks on mods on TBP? I like it, to be frank. Even if it probably makes it a bit more stressful for Pundit and brettmb and whatnot.

Yeah, I like the light moderation here. Kudos to Pundit for allowing moderation. I like political talk and I like RPG talk - though it sometimes does bug me when political talk takes over RPG forum threads.

I don't think Pundit needs to read RPGPub, but if he hasn't read it, then I don't see why anyone should pay attention his comments on what it's like.

[Shipyard Locked]

Why would I go to a forum that was created explicitly as a bad imitation of theRPGsite but with the premise that I needed to be 'taken out'?

I've been at the Pub since its inception. It's not now nor has it ever been an anti-Site hatefest, as others here have pointed out.

Was it started by people from here? Yes.
Was it a reaction to the increasingly reactionary tone of this forum? Yes.
Were some of the founders upset at you Pundit? Yes.
Are some of the current posters anti-you? Yes.

But you also have plenty of defenders there, on the rare occasion that you come up as a topic. I myself have defended your contributions to the hobby, though I don't agree with all your positions. And both the anti and pro pundit sentiments are vastly drowned out by the "I don't want any drama, back to gaming and tangents" contingent.

You don't have to go there, but there's also no need to throw us all in the 'enemy' bucket either, sight-unseen.

[Ghostmaker]

Pundit's site, the Pub, and any other site that does not adhere to and kowtow to the narrative will become targets in time. It is inevitable.

Some of you probably avoid Kiwi Farms like the plague. Some of you may be posters there. Fair enough, either way. But it should make everyone nervous when a psychotic freak can drive a website literally off the clearnet. Which is exactly what's happened.

[Tristram Evans]

Why the hate?

dishonesty is a pet peeve

Especially wrapped in a hypocritical blanket of self-promotion. Pundit is basically acting just like Daniel Fox.

[Grognard GM]

Was it a reaction to the increasingly reactionary tone of this forum? Yes.

Reactionary is a Commie word for "goes against anything Communists are pushing."

[David Johansen]

The pub is at least moderate enough to allow Tristram to post some titties from time to time.  I'm not sure where titties fall on the political spectrum as it seems that for every one that's on the left there's one on the right and I don't think I'd have it any other way.

On tbp that's a comment that would get me banned for sexism and bigotry against masectomy survivors.  It's probably racist too but it might be too political for the pub but I'd just get a pm about it rather than public censure or a ban.

I did eventually post the politics rules for Galaxies In Shadow and never got any flak for it but I didn't do it under the thread title "FLAGRANT RULES VIOLATION" either.

[Fheredin]

A goose kept in a cage can lay eggs like one which isn't in one, but the goose which lays golden eggs is always a free-range bird. You try to take the goose laying golden eggs and keep it in a cage and it'll stop laying golden eggs.

Personal opinion: if there are limits to the conversations you can have, there are also limits to the games you can play and design. For people wanting to play in a kiddie pool of a roleplaying game, that's fine, but you need to be honest with yourself about that.

RPGs are inherently at least a little political in that they are hypothetical worlds born of thought experiments. But often the quality of these worlds depends greatly on the deeper philosophical questions they're trying to answer; people play games to learn, and one of the things they may learn is the answer to hypothetical questions. If you are married to an orthodoxy or a dogma which stops you from answering questions honestly, you can't actually design a game which fully satisfies this itch.