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Author Topic: It doesn't matter if you don't like leftists.  (Read 6238 times)

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« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2020, 02:23:08 PM »
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Hey, SHARK!

What is happening now is far less than what Lincoln did. Making claims against the Constitution to complain about what Trump is doing absolutely villifies what Lincoln did. To condemn the lesser is to condemn the greater.

"Losing with my principles intact" is just another way to submit to slavery - and to be guilty of the destruction of everything and everyone you claim to be protecting and upholding.

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Hello, my friend! I agree. Lincoln exercised far more strength and Constitutional boundary-pushing than President Trump has. And the funny thing is, President Lincoln knew it, and acknowledged it. He said in the end, though, if the Republic were to lose, and the Union destroyed, what would it have mattered? That's why he was very confident that whatever he did--all that he did--was righteous and good, because he was doing it to preserve the Union and protect the Republic.

President Lincoln had protesters shot and executed. Politicians and "community activists" that were sympathetic to the Confederacy were beaten and imprisoned. Spies and sabotuers were hung. Agitators of all kinds were either executed or imprisoned.

People protesting conscription were allowed to speak for a time--and then the hammer came down, and they were beaten, shot, and imprisoned.

Corporate CEO's and industry magnates that committed fraud against the Union were imprisoned.

Legislators and politicians that did not support the Union were arrested and imprisoned. No lawyers, no crying, no mercy. They were fucking done, just like that.

President Lincoln was dead fucking serious about his mandate from Heaven to preserve the Union!:D And Lincoln did not apologise for any of it at all, damn straight.

I think President Trump is doing good bringing the hammer down on rebels and agitators. He needs to do it more.

President Lincoln would certainly approve!

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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2020, 03:24:24 PM »
As a Southerner I find this pro-Lincoln talk highly distasteful.  Also Andrew Jackson was the best president,  telling the Supreme Court to go pack sand was one of his best acts, the other being stopping the formation of the Federal Reserve of his day.

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« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2020, 03:33:53 PM »
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Do you believe killing a person is justified if they break into your home?


That actually happened to me when I was young, living in Carson (Los Angeles "sub-urb"). A man running from the police tried to break into our home. Unfortunately, my father was not the kind of person one tests such interactions with. The 1911 did all the negotiating for him.

And like my father and his fathers before him - "Woe to the individual that enters my domain by force, uninvited, for thunder and fire shall rain down upon thee."

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« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2020, 03:35:30 PM »
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Greetings!

I am comfortable with embracing violence. The 2nd Amendment is real, and I am well prepared. I do not have any moral compunctions about doing that which is right. Some men you just can't reach! If some men cannot be reasoned with, then a Glock 45 in their mouth will have them seeing my point of view very quickly.

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What if you're the one in the wrong? That 45 option doesnt leave open the door to further discussion and chances to be reasonable. I'm not saying that violence for defensive needs is never appropriate, just that other methods should always be considered and the violence should never be glorified.

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« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2020, 03:41:09 PM »
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What if you're the one in the wrong? That 45 option doesnt leave open the door to further discussion and chances to be reasonable. I'm not saying that violence for defensive needs is never appropriate, just that other methods should always be considered and the violence should never be glorified.

  Well....I think his point is if you have a completely unreasonable ideological enemy that seems to be promoting the removal of ALL opposition, how exactly do you explore many other options for dealing with such people?

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« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2020, 03:56:20 PM »
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Seriously dude, wtf? How did she get elected in Boise of all places???

The fact this Marxist won should scare the shit out of anyone in Idaho. If Boise has enough leftists to vote for a mayor pushing to create a sanctuary city and sex ed for pre-K, then your state is gonna be just as fucked as California in a couple years.


It seems possible that there is a misconception about what pre-K 'sex ed' is.  It is not 'the birds and the bees'.  It is age-appropriate discussion about inappropriate touching and how to tell a teacher/care giver if an adult has touched you inappropriately.

An example of what is included in pre-k sex education is:

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Body ownership and touching
That they are the boss of their body and have a right to say who can touch their body (you included).
That it is not okay to hug or touch someone if they don't want you to (and vice versa).
That sometimes there are reasons for an adult to look at or touch their body, like a doctor or nurse.
That we don't keep secrets about our bodies. Secrets can be about surprises and presents.
That they can always tell you about anything that makes them feel bad or funny.


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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2020, 04:30:10 PM »
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In what way are they not following the constitution?


So here is an example of what my friends in Portland are complaining about.



That seems like unlawful use of force to me, when he is standing on the public street - and no criminal charges were made against him.

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« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2020, 04:39:12 PM »
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What if you're the one in the wrong? That 45 option doesnt leave open the door to further discussion and chances to be reasonable. I'm not saying that violence for defensive needs is never appropriate, just that other methods should always be considered and the violence should never be glorified.

Repentance and forgiveness, two things SJWs reject for themselves, especially the repentance part, and deny to others, especially the forgiveness part.

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« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2020, 04:45:00 PM »
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So here is an example of what my friends in Portland are complaining about.



That seems like unlawful use of force to me, when he is standing on the public street - and no criminal charges were made against him.

Pretty sure terrorists don't have legal rights.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

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« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2020, 04:51:07 PM »
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Pretty sure terrorists don't have legal rights.

Are you saying that Chris David is a terrorist? What acts of terrorism did he commit?

As far as I know, there have been no criminal charges at all filed against him - let alone terrorism charges.

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« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2020, 05:12:39 PM »
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That seems like unlawful use of force to me, when he is standing on the public street - and no criminal charges were made against him.

There are times and places to question the authorities. I'm not sure the middle of the Portland riots is a good place to do that.

I'm not saying they were justified in hitting him and pepper spraying him, but it's a confusing and violent situation. Just what the rioters want so they can portray the authorities as oppressive and fascist.

I have to ask, does this Navy Vet guy support the violence and vandalism perpetrated by the rioters?
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« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2020, 05:26:05 PM »
I think what I got from that video, is a question to people who probably told you to get your ass back already, might be better posed at a later date, like when there are not a bunch of peaceful protesters burning stuff and vandalizing things.  

  As to unlawful force, if you are hanging around a riot, and the LEO's say do something, what is an appropriate amount of force to gain compliance?  I am sure the protesters of Portland are used to zero force, and it has to be culture shock to actually having someone put hands on you when you do not comply.

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« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2020, 05:53:48 PM »
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Are you saying that Chris David is a terrorist? What acts of terrorism did he commit?

As far as I know, there have been no criminal charges at all filed against him - let alone terrorism charges.

If you're dumb enough to go into a warzone that has demonstrable terrorist activity and not comply and leave the area, you're an idiot and are gonna get fucked up.
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« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2020, 06:10:23 PM »
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Greetings!

Very true, Mjollnir! So many Conservatives have been weak, passive, and far too nice and polite. While the country gets steadily corrupted, and destroyed.

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Conservative types are older and have something to loose.  So it is no wonder they sit on the internet forums grumbling into their beards.
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« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2020, 06:11:58 PM »
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Antifa types are young and full of piss and vinegar with nothing to loose.

Conservative types are older and have something to loose.  So it is no wonder they sit on the internet forums grumbling into their beards.

  that, and organizing them is akin to herding cats.