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« Reply #105 on: August 26, 2020, 10:06:43 PM »
Quote from: Chris24601;1146604
Don't confuse the internet and media boosted tiny minority with an actual majority. I mentioned in another thread regarding cancel culture, but when they came after Rush Limbaugh's advertisers and stations he actually had it investigated and they discovered that all the tens of thousands of tweets and angry emails and Facebook posts claiming broad nationwide outrage were the result of sock puppets run by just TEN people.

Similarly, these protests are a few hundred people in each city (many not even local) of 100+ thousand.

We're actually talking about maybe 1% of the population with a complicit media and Leftist elected officials (many probably holding their positions not by actual popular vote but fraud) acting as a megaphone to make them look invincible.

There is a silent majority who fear being targeted by that insane 1%; they're keeping their heads down until election day because cold anger is much more purposeful and willing to endure slings and arrows until it's time to act decisively.

If there weren't a legitimate silent majority set to crush them, the Leftists wouldn't be throwing everything into their increasingly unhinged vote stealing schemes, orchestrated violence and attempts to crash the economy. Nancy Pelosi wouldn't be calling Trump voters "enemies of the state" and pondering yet another attempt at impeachment.

No, if they had an actual majority they'd be sitting back and saying "let's have a proper election where we'll win a clear electoral mandate."

My personal feeling is that the current powers that be were so convinced that, via Hillary, THEY were finally going to be the generation who actually got to institute and oversee the end results of the generational push towards their Marxist utopia (and the establishment Republicans were in position to be permanent underdogs grifting off the conservative voters while lamenting their inability to act)... only to have victory snatched from them at the last possible moment (like it was the climax of some action film) by an unplanned for third party... and the realization that, if that third party actually followed through on his promises the opportunity for their utopia would not come again in their lifetimes (because Soros, Nancy, Bill Gates, et al are all old farts who make the septuagenarian President Trump look like a fresh young buck in comparison... yes, I know Gates is younger but the dude is aging like a reverse Dorian Grey).

So they RAGE! They scream and scheme to snatch the Ring of Power back from those with the will to throw it into Mount Doom. There is NOTHING they will not be willing to do to get the power they sold their souls for and was convinced belonged to them.

The entire Leftist power structure is flailing about like your favorite chew toy HappyDaze is because it's literally all they have left. They either regain their power now or (at least for this generation) never. These aren't the flexing of hidden muscles... they're the death throes of this Leftist generations' dreams of power (and the dawning horror that it will be up to the likes of idiots like AOC to actually carry the ball down the field for the next attempt).

At least that's my read on it.



Pretty much.  If they thought they were going to win they wouldn't be rocking the boat.
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« Reply #106 on: August 27, 2020, 01:53:10 AM »
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Pretty much.  If they thought they were going to win they wouldn't be rocking the boat.

To follow up the thought a bit regarding the Left's implosion; it's worth noting that the other half of the old guard establishment (the one content with permanent underdog status in exchange for a place at the trough) has already been significantly nuked by President Trump hijacking their party.

The Establishment Republicans have fought him every step of the way. The Gang of Eight including Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell (but notably excluding Devin Nunes who they side-lined with an phony ethics investigation during that time) and the Republican members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence were 100% complicit in the phony Russia coup attempt. It also takes but a single senator voting nay to prevent the use of pro forma to remain in session and yet not a single Senate Republican voted so, thus making President Trump the first President in US history to be denied a single recess appointment and to be unable to completely staff the executive branch during his entire term.

They hate him every bit as much as the Leftists for trying to close down their part of the gravy train (notably Endless Wars Inc. and selling out the US middle class for bennies from China by way of the US Chamber of Crony Commerce). They just have to pretend to be on his side because the President has a 90+% approval among the party base.

Those who couldn't grit their teeth ran off to be NeverTrumpers and are, by and large, grifters who made their living by paying lip service to the "conservative" agenda, but utterly failing to deliver when actually given power for "reasons."

The whole question of "what are conservative principles?" is moot. The NeverTrumpers and Establishment killed the term as meaning anything as President Trump started implementing everything they always claimed they'd wanted, but was labeled not a conservative for doing so. It's as meaningless as Liberal is today.

Honestly, I gave up describing myself as "conservative" a long time ago. I'm a subsidiarity-based national populist. I believe that all power should be devolved to the lowest level of organization (nation, state, county, city, borough/township, family/friends, individual) able to handle a given problem and the rights of those at lower levels of organization to be free to solve their own problems and manage their own property must be protected.

Education, for example, sits somewhere in the borough/township and family level so federal and state involvement should be minimal to non-existent. If you think otherwise, then try taking an exam needed to graduate the eighth-grade back in 1900 or so (you can find plenty online) back before our education system was nationalized... and then get back to me.

I believe nation-states are the natural highest level of subsidiarity for protecting the best interests of people and attempts to give power to higher levels has always resulted in the erosion of individual liberties and human misery. I further believe that by having individual nations (and states within those nations, etc.) able to act in their own interests you will have continued experimentation for developing "best practices" as our growing technology changes the way we live our lives.

I believe that the best systems are those that arise naturally from populations at each level rather than those imposed on the population from the top down. When individuals and groups have the freedom to innovate, everyone's lives improve.

I also believe the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights are probably as close as humanity has ever gotten to perfectly codifying and enshrining the above principles I believe in and that those who want to rip them down and replace them with the eternal failures that are all the fruits of Marxism are enemies of the good and enemies of the people.

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« Reply #107 on: August 27, 2020, 08:13:58 AM »
Quote from: Chris24601;1146604
Don't confuse the internet and media boosted tiny minority with an actual majority. I mentioned in another thread regarding cancel culture, but when they came after Rush Limbaugh's advertisers and stations he actually had it investigated and they discovered that all the tens of thousands of tweets and angry emails and Facebook posts claiming broad nationwide outrage were the result of sock puppets run by just TEN people.

Similarly, these protests are a few hundred people in each city (many not even local) of 100+ thousand.

We're actually talking about maybe 1% of the population with a complicit media and Leftist elected officials (many probably holding their positions not by actual popular vote but fraud) acting as a megaphone to make them look invincible.

There is a silent majority who fear being targeted by that insane 1%; they're keeping their heads down until election day because cold anger is much more purposeful and willing to endure slings and arrows until it's time to act decisively.

If there weren't a legitimate silent majority set to crush them, the Leftists wouldn't be throwing everything into their increasingly unhinged vote stealing schemes, orchestrated violence and attempts to crash the economy. Nancy Pelosi wouldn't be calling Trump voters "enemies of the state" and pondering yet another attempt at impeachment.

No, if they had an actual majority they'd be sitting back and saying "let's have a proper election where we'll win a clear electoral mandate."

My personal feeling is that the current powers that be were so convinced that, via Hillary, THEY were finally going to be the generation who actually got to institute and oversee the end results of the generational push towards their Marxist utopia (and the establishment Republicans were in position to be permanent underdogs grifting off the conservative voters while lamenting their inability to act)... only to have victory snatched from them at the last possible moment (like it was the climax of some action film) by an unplanned for third party... and the realization that, if that third party actually followed through on his promises the opportunity for their utopia would not come again in their lifetimes (because Soros, Nancy, Bill Gates, et al are all old farts who make the septuagenarian President Trump look like a fresh young buck in comparison... yes, I know Gates is younger but the dude is aging like a reverse Dorian Grey).

So they RAGE! They scream and scheme to snatch the Ring of Power back from those with the will to throw it into Mount Doom. There is NOTHING they will not be willing to do to get the power they sold their souls for and was convinced belonged to them.

The entire Leftist power structure is flailing about like your favorite chew toy HappyDaze is because it's literally all they have left. They either regain their power now or (at least for this generation) never. These aren't the flexing of hidden muscles... they're the death throes of this Leftist generations' dreams of power (and the dawning horror that it will be up to the likes of idiots like AOC to actually carry the ball down the field for the next attempt).

At least that's my read on it.

Agreed and seconded. Television at least what is on TV at the moment likes to portray Latinos as being ultra progressive full accepting and embracing gay and LGQT culture when many are the complete opposite and very believe in very traditional values at least those aged 30-35+. It's the same way that every commercial and shows likes to push the narrative that every couple is a mixed couple with guy and trans being the norm and straight couples being the exception. When at least in my neck of the woods white people date white people, Asian date Asian etc. Mixed couples exist to the extent the media and movies want to portray it hardly.

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« Reply #108 on: August 27, 2020, 08:51:21 AM »
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Pretty much.  If they thought they were going to win they wouldn't be rocking the boat.

Even better. They are all guilty of various felony crimes, up to and including treason. Which means they are facing anything from hard time to the death penalty.

That'd cause more than a little desperation, dontcha think?

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« Reply #109 on: August 27, 2020, 08:33:42 PM »
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Pretty much.  If they thought they were going to win they wouldn't be rocking the boat.

They'd vote for Hitler if it meant taking a swipe at the guy they keep calling Hitler.

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« Reply #110 on: August 30, 2020, 07:08:16 AM »
The Kenosha Kid has taught us that if the police won't enforce the laws against arson you do it yourself and after you blow away a few commutards  the police suddenly regain their desire to enforce the law. If police allowed arsonist to operate in my town i would be hunting rioters and any police that had a problem with that could get some too. i am not obligated to have my home burned down so meth heads can larp as revolutionaries, and its the job of the police to prevent such, if they cannot or will not then they are no longer police as far as i'm concerned. besides once i get a taste i cant stop myself until i'm out of ammo anyway. if you are forced to drop some commies and then the cops are all like "we need to arrest you for homo-cide" my stance is "hold my beer i'm a bout to dindunuffin".

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« Reply #111 on: August 30, 2020, 04:55:47 PM »
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besides once i get a taste i cant stop myself until i'm out of ammo anyway.

Oh, this one is a real gem, isn't he?

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« Reply #112 on: August 30, 2020, 05:06:47 PM »
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Oh, this one is a real gem, isn't he?

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« Reply #113 on: August 31, 2020, 08:08:02 AM »
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« Reply #114 on: September 02, 2020, 02:42:12 PM »
TBP has announced that comparing real people to fantasy races is against their rules.


https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/new-policy-racism-and-fantasy-species.868896/


I'm not sure if this means the whole argument is now banned. IE claiming that fantasy monsters are racist stereotypes.
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« Reply #115 on: September 02, 2020, 02:52:55 PM »

TBP has announced that comparing real people to fantasy races is against their rules.I'm not sure if this means the whole argument is now banned. IE claiming that fantasy monsters are racist stereotypes.

Not the whole argument, he says that it only goes one way.. you CAN draw lines between the fictional presentation of the fantasy races and real-world situations in the sense of identifying how a treatment of orcs in a given setting is representative of how Native Americans were viewed by white settlers, but you can't turn around and say "Those protesters are just like a screaming horde of goblins."

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Re: Is there any monster the SJWs don't see as Black People?
« Reply #116 on: September 03, 2020, 08:34:28 AM »

TBP has announced that comparing real people to fantasy races is against their rules.I'm not sure if this means the whole argument is now banned. IE claiming that fantasy monsters are racist stereotypes.
Not the whole argument, he says that it only goes one way.. you CAN draw lines between the fictional presentation of the fantasy races and real-world situations in the sense of identifying how a treatment of orcs in a given setting is representative of how Native Americans were viewed by white settlers, but you can't turn around and say "Those protesters are just like a screaming horde of goblins."

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TBP's mod team is hypocritical and biased. What else is new?

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« Reply #117 on: September 03, 2020, 09:29:08 AM »
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Pretty much.  If they thought they were going to win they wouldn't be rocking the boat.
To follow up the thought a bit regarding the Left's implosion; it's worth noting that the other half of the old guard establishment (the one content with permanent underdog status in exchange for a place at the trough) has already been significantly nuked by President Trump hijacking their party.

The Establishment Republicans have fought him every step of the way. The Gang of Eight including Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell (but notably excluding Devin Nunes who they side-lined with an phony ethics investigation during that time) and the Republican members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence were 100% complicit in the phony Russia coup attempt. It also takes but a single senator voting nay to prevent the use of pro forma to remain in session and yet not a single Senate Republican voted so, thus making President Trump the first President in US history to be denied a single recess appointment and to be unable to completely staff the executive branch during his entire term.

They hate him every bit as much as the Leftists for trying to close down their part of the gravy train (notably Endless Wars Inc. and selling out the US middle class for bennies from China by way of the US Chamber of Crony Commerce). They just have to pretend to be on his side because the President has a 90+% approval among the party base.

Those who couldn't grit their teeth ran off to be NeverTrumpers and are, by and large, grifters who made their living by paying lip service to the "conservative" agenda, but utterly failing to deliver when actually given power for "reasons."

The whole question of "what are conservative principles?" is moot. The NeverTrumpers and Establishment killed the term as meaning anything as President Trump started implementing everything they always claimed they'd wanted, but was labeled not a conservative for doing so. It's as meaningless as Liberal is today.

Honestly, I gave up describing myself as "conservative" a long time ago. I'm a subsidiarity-based national populist. I believe that all power should be devolved to the lowest level of organization (nation, state, county, city, borough/township, family/friends, individual) able to handle a given problem and the rights of those at lower levels of organization to be free to solve their own problems and manage their own property must be protected.

Education, for example, sits somewhere in the borough/township and family level so federal and state involvement should be minimal to non-existent. If you think otherwise, then try taking an exam needed to graduate the eighth-grade back in 1900 or so (you can find plenty online) back before our education system was nationalized... and then get back to me.

I believe nation-states are the natural highest level of subsidiarity for protecting the best interests of people and attempts to give power to higher levels has always resulted in the erosion of individual liberties and human misery. I further believe that by having individual nations (and states within those nations, etc.) able to act in their own interests you will have continued experimentation for developing "best practices" as our growing technology changes the way we live our lives.

I believe that the best systems are those that arise naturally from populations at each level rather than those imposed on the population from the top down. When individuals and groups have the freedom to innovate, everyone's lives improve.

I also believe the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights are probably as close as humanity has ever gotten to perfectly codifying and enshrining the above principles I believe in and that those who want to rip them down and replace them with the eternal failures that are all the fruits of Marxism are enemies of the good and enemies of the people.
Well said, the whole thing, even the parts I don't entirely agree with. :)
I've been calling myself a little "c" conservative for a long time.  Different terminology, a lot of the same thoughts behind it.  Mainly because I think the conservative attitude about life survives as a recognizable thing even if the Conservative political movement has been destroyed by the GOP establishment. 

If you want to get right down to my beliefs, I'd say that I think when the founders had all their arguments about liberty and tradition and republics and democracies, etc, their compromises were mostly on spot.  (That one big exception about slavery is the exception that proves the rule, not invalidates the rest of it.  They knew it at the time, as any even moderately educated in American history would know, not to be confused with the Zinn credentialed fools.)  I guess that makes me a "US Constitutionalist", though I think the additions later by Andrew Jackson had a lot to recommend them as well.

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« Reply #118 on: September 03, 2020, 09:47:10 AM »

Well said, the whole thing, even the parts I don't entirely agree with. :)
I've been calling myself a little "c" conservative for a long time.  Different terminology, a lot of the same thoughts behind it.  Mainly because I think the conservative attitude about life survives as a recognizable thing even if the Conservative political movement has been destroyed by the GOP establishment. 

If you want to get right down to my beliefs, I'd say that I think when the founders had all their arguments about liberty and tradition and republics and democracies, etc, their compromises were mostly on spot.  (That one big exception about slavery is the exception that proves the rule, not invalidates the rest of it.  They knew it at the time, as any even moderately educated in American history would know, not to be confused with the Zinn credentialed fools.)  I guess that makes me a "US Constitutionalist", though I think the additions later by Andrew Jackson had a lot to recommend them as well.


Pretty much agree with you and chris here...(that's why i use the term small 'l' libertarian for myself...)


and I love "Zinn credentialed fools", I am going to have to remember that one.  :)
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« Reply #119 on: September 04, 2020, 12:06:44 PM »
Back on topic. You know, the one a few pages back...
Over on BGG they are at it again with a thread on how orcs are WACIST and as mentioned elsewhere here at least one designer has had his historical game denied because it had George Washington in it and you know George was WACIST! And other designers providing proof that why yes George is WACIST because he bought slaves.
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