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Author Topic: Larian complains about boring players  (Read 541 times)

Manifestopheles

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Re: Larian complains about boring players
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2020, 03:32:12 PM »
The comments made by Larian themselves seem to have been mostly made in jest, expressing a somewhat understandable puzzlement at players' one-sidedness when it comes to character creation.

Pretty sure the original comment was more like "We spent all this time and effort giving you guys some crazy funky ways to customize your avatar's appearence and most of you aren't using it!"  So typical developer complaints when their work ends up being unused.

That was, indeed, the original comment. Again, I firmly believe they were just trying to poke some harmless fun. It's not like their game isn't already selling like hotcakes and will be inevitably at least as successful as DOS2 (if not rival BG1&2 themselves). The options they worked so hard to get in the game are there for players to peruse at their leasure, and they're obviously planning on adding tons more content once the full game comes out. And even if it's not the majority, I'm sure plenty of people out there are playing Drow and Tiefling snowflakes.

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Re: Larian complains about boring players
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2020, 04:07:30 PM »
Bought it in early access, haven't progressed too far.  They're a modern company, but I don't think they're heavy handed with wokeness...

Character designs: if you choose human the default is a black guy, but there's a fair amount of skin tones and features; Gold dwarves and strongheart halflings are latino or something, I dunno the Realms.  The armor is typical fantasy nonsense - strange as hell, mostly fantasy crap with 16th century fashion blended with occasional dark age throwbacks.

You get to design your 'ideal love' right after character creation, and they're dressed in a fantasy greek-ish wrap around outfit with nipples poking up (ladies) or showing (men).  Boobs are a little small.  Need me my big-titty dwarves.  Give me a slider!

Overall the characters are beautiful - hair and faces are improved from the DOS:2 editor - my campaign has already benefited - I was lacking an NPC portrait that had the right combo of smug and soy:



(Brogan Greycastle - He's the evil gay half-elf bastard that ursurped the Red Wyrmspeaker title, and corrupting his lover the Prince of the kingdom; although he's probably Kevin Spacey gay...)


It's VERY early access; because this is Larian, that means its playable and fun, BUT there are only about six classes and some races are missing.

The problem is, it's cleaving tightly to the 5e rules, and that makes it pretty dull at low level when you're playing multiplayer - you just don't have as much to do on your turn as in DOS:2, add to that the fact that we're missing classes and races we want and its meh.

Also, Larian seems to be in a rut: [spoiler]So you're a prisoner on a ship, there are giant tentacles and it crashes leaving you on a beach.  Later, you have voices in your head.  We had great fun joking about Fort Joy being around the corner.[/spoiler]
Your Forgotten Realms was my first The Last Jedi.

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Re: Larian complains about boring players
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2020, 05:18:33 PM »
Also, Larian seems to be in a rut: [spoiler]So you're a prisoner on a ship, there are giant tentacles and it crashes leaving you on a beach.  Later, you have voices in your head.  We had great fun joking about Fort Joy being around the corner.[/spoiler]

Honestly, I never thought Larian were amazing writers. Both DOS games are fairly run-of-the-mill high fantasy romps, and their predecessors, mostly of the action RPG variety weren't much better in that regard. Gameplay and co-op fun seems to be where their strengths lie, and they play their hand well. Obviously this game is perhaps hampered by the fact that it's a 5E product, but at least they're not pulling any punches, which, as always with their games, is as refreshing as ever.

Also, yeah, the character models are gorgeous, if buggy. I have good faith they will fix everything in due time, but I'll still hold off buying the game until then.

Maybe I should revisit some of the Divinity games to hold me over until then.

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Re: Larian complains about boring players
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2020, 07:29:22 PM »
That's what we ended up doing.  Dos2
Your Forgotten Realms was my first The Last Jedi.

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Re: Larian complains about boring players
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2020, 03:53:29 PM »
So...the devs give gamers a million character options so people could play a character “just like me”.
Players then do exactly this, the majority US gamer being a white male.
Devs then call players boring and unimaginative.

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Re: Larian complains about boring players
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2020, 06:50:19 PM »
Normally any thread about video games would be instantly closed here. But it actually IS of interest to me to know that the majority of gamers want to play humans, and that this really pisses off the Tumblr/Twitter freak crowd who hate their own humanity and everyone else's.
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