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Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

Started by Spinachcat, August 02, 2021, 11:31:32 PM

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Kiero

Quote from: jhkim on January 11, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
Ratman_tf -- Given Kiero's position that all covid vaccines are blatantly fake and harmful, though, it doesn't seem like just a few bad apples. It's those in control of every country in the world from Israel to Russia, and every covid vaccine developer. Within the U.S., Trump lead the development and approval of the vaccines - and took one himself along with encouraging all Americans to get it while touting how safe they are. The mainstream Republicans and all Democrats have all been on board with this.

I'm trying to at least understand Kiero's position. Personally, I don't have much medical knowledge. The medically-trained people I know don't agree with his assessment, so I'm skeptical. Still, I'd hope we can at least communicate.

It's not a few bad apples, because there's a shit-ton of money and influence involved. Did you know the EU bought 10 billion doses from Pfizer? The Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is under investigation over it (which blows my mind, the EU never cared about transparency or the like before now), she's a close friend of Alfred Bourla.

Lots of people have been bought off. Lots of people have been intimidated. Some are true believers, who really think they're doing good by participating in the scam.

Trump was never really in control of anything and wanted to pin his name to Moderna's product as a "win". He's sketchy on the jabs for that reason.

And "mainstream Republicans and Democrats" - the swamp. They're part of the Deep State who really control what goes on in your country, as those revelations about the CIA's involvement in the Kennedy assassination a few weeks ago proved. Not that it's any better in my country, our swamp is much older and more entrenched.
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DocJones

Quote from: Kiero on January 11, 2023, 04:07:13 AM
The Chinese government are serial liars, and injecting people with the inactive coronavirus doesn't work. We already know that from 60+ years of research into vaccines for the common cold. Which is what covid is.
Of course they are liars.  But are you asserting that the 90 countries they distributed SinoVac to are also liars? 
The 51% effective rate comes from Mexico and Brazil studies on SinoVac.

Quote from: Kiero on January 11, 2023, 04:07:13 AM
Coronavirus jabs are 0% effective, they do not prevent infection with coronavirus. Which is what real vaccines do.
SinoVac is 51% effective.  That success rate is indeed very bad and for the same reason I posted that one would not be developed two years ago.
It doesn't change the fact that it does meet the old definition of a vaccine and is just as safe as traditional vaccines.

Kiero

Quote from: DocJones on January 11, 2023, 08:12:56 PM
Of course they are liars.  But are you asserting that the 90 countries they distributed SinoVac to are also liars? 
The 51% effective rate comes from Mexico and Brazil studies on SinoVac.

SinoVac is 51% effective.  That success rate is indeed very bad and for the same reason I posted that one would not be developed two years ago.
It doesn't change the fact that it does meet the old definition of a vaccine and is just as safe as traditional vaccines.

Relative Risk Reduction is not effectiveness. That's marketing bollocks.

Actual Risk Reduction is effectiveness and that floats at around 1% for all the jabs.
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dkabq

Liar, liar, pants on fire:

"Vaccinated people do not carry the virus, and do not get sick."
- CDC Director Rochelle Walensky

https://twitter.com/healthbyjames/status/1614326948368449539

Ratman_tf

FDA vaccine advisers 'disappointed' and 'angry' that early data about new Covid-19 booster shot wasn't presented for review last year

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html
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DocJones


Ratman_tf

Quote from: DocJones on January 22, 2023, 08:57:24 PM
Scott Adams we were right/




No one really "won" this. I know Adams is looking at the bottom line of vaccine efficacy, but the social and political fallout is a thing to factor in as well.

Our institutions failed us, and will get away with it. A huge chunk of the population are now in a sunk cost situation where they won't admit this was the wrong approach, or will remain ignorant and compliant for the next disaster/emergency.

We all lost. The only ones who won are a handful of rich and powerful people feasting on the chaos.
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Kiero

The more you get jabbed, the more you get covid:



Does that show that the jabs are working?

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Kiero

#1884
This is awkward, the Office for National Statistics (the government body in the UK reponsible for all official stats) admits they've lied about covid deaths by vaccination status:



Summary: they deliberately inflated the apparent risk of being unjabbed, and with the correct figures vaccination is very obviously dangerous.
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Kiero

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DocJones

The most potent vaccination is getting infected yourself.


Kiero

This is not satire; the latest twist in the narrative to vilify the unjabbed, is to claim we didn't warn the poor jabbees: https://iqfy.com/unvaccinated-silence/
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Ratman_tf

Quote from: Kiero on January 25, 2023, 10:34:56 AM
This is not satire; the latest twist in the narrative to vilify the unjabbed, is to claim we didn't warn the poor jabbees: https://iqfy.com/unvaccinated-silence/

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Kiero

Project Veritas released a major expose, showing a Pfizer executive bragging about the corporation hot-housing new viruses. Tumbleweed from most of the legacy media.

Indeed, some of them that reported on it have since removed their stories (like the Daily Mail). Nothing to see here, though.
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