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Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

Started by Spinachcat, August 02, 2021, 11:31:32 PM

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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Kiero on April 14, 2022, 08:50:35 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on April 14, 2022, 04:24:50 AM
It ends when We the People refuse to comply.

Mass non-compliance destroys the entire Covidiot system.

Most people are bovine cowards, so it will never end.
Mmm. You might ask Marie Antoinette how that worked out. Or the Ceausescus.

It's always a mistake to say 'Why worry about something that won't happen?'.

rgalex

But we just had 2 years of it not happening.  Plenty of people were more than happy to comply.  To just shut up and do what they were told.

They turned on friends and family. Neighbors snitched on neighbors.  You had the rise of the Mask Karen.  People who got abusive and violent if you weren't wearing a mask. 

Police went around enforcing executive orders.  These aren't/weren't laws.  They arrested people and did it with a smile and "just following orders" excuse on their lips.

People with medical conditions that prevented them from complying got shoved aside and treated like second class citizens.  They were told that the government knew better than their personal doctors.

After seeing what has gone on for the last few years I've lost nearly all hope that any meaningful number of people would ever stand up for their rights and not just stand aside and let the government crush them.

dkabq

Quote from: rgalex on April 14, 2022, 10:32:02 AM
But we just had 2 years of it not happening.  Plenty of people were more than happy to comply.  To just shut up and do what they were told.

They turned on friends and family. Neighbors snitched on neighbors.  You had the rise of the Mask Karen.  People who got abusive and violent if you weren't wearing a mask. 

Police went around enforcing executive orders.  These aren't/weren't laws.  They arrested people and did it with a smile and "just following orders" excuse on their lips.

People with medical conditions that prevented them from complying got shoved aside and treated like second class citizens.  They were told that the government knew better than their personal doctors.

After seeing what has gone on for the last few years I've lost nearly all hope that any meaningful number of people would ever stand up for their rights and not just stand aside and let the government crush them.

"Close your eyes, can't happen here, Big Bro' on white horse is near"

Zelen

Nothing will happen as long as people are addicted to The Screen, and think that just because The Screen tells them something that it's correct.

oggsmash

Quote from: rgalex on April 14, 2022, 10:32:02 AM
But we just had 2 years of it not happening.  Plenty of people were more than happy to comply.  To just shut up and do what they were told.

They turned on friends and family. Neighbors snitched on neighbors.  You had the rise of the Mask Karen.  People who got abusive and violent if you weren't wearing a mask. 

Police went around enforcing executive orders.  These aren't/weren't laws.  They arrested people and did it with a smile and "just following orders" excuse on their lips.

People with medical conditions that prevented them from complying got shoved aside and treated like second class citizens.  They were told that the government knew better than their personal doctors.

After seeing what has gone on for the last few years I've lost nearly all hope that any meaningful number of people would ever stand up for their rights and not just stand aside and let the government crush them.

  To a degree this is true, but it seemed to vary quite a bit state by state.  Some states were very compliant, others not so much.  Some states, trying to pull mask police will gets cops shot or their asses kicked.  Karens also choose their locations carefully for their hijinks. I was up in the Appalachian and Blue Ridge mountains during the height of lockdown madness, and I can tell you no karen mask bullshit was going to fly in most of the places around that region.  I think region/state greatly affected how much of that was imposed, and that is because there is a wide variation in what different populations in different locations would tolerate. 

Chris24601

Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 14, 2022, 09:48:38 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 14, 2022, 08:50:35 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on April 14, 2022, 04:24:50 AM
It ends when We the People refuse to comply.

Mass non-compliance destroys the entire Covidiot system.

Most people are bovine cowards, so it will never end.
Mmm. You might ask Marie Antoinette how that worked out. Or the Ceausescus.

It's always a mistake to say 'Why worry about something that won't happen?'.
Even a dull coward can be brave when he has nothing left to lose. If your remaining choices are certain slow death by starvation or the chance of life if you decide to fight then a whole bunch of cowards will choose to fight.

It's been strongly hinted that the Shanghi lockdowns actually have nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with making an example of the most Westernized city in China to the rest of China to not even think about rebelling against the State. Tyrants always fear being overthrown and the less secure they feel, the tighter they try to squeeze.

The entire global system based on endless debt is starting to disintegrate... sooner or later the bill always comes due. Leaders all over the world are looking at what's happening with Sri Lanka and Peru as bellwethers of what's coming their way and reacting in accord with their respective philosophies in response.

For China's leaders it is massive crackdowns, for the United States' "leaders" it is fiddling while the country burns down around them. More observant people have been quietly stockpiling for years because the realities of economics aren't rocket science and the direction has been obvious for quite some time.

We're looking at the collapse of the Western Roman Empire at best... Bronze Age Collapse as the mid-range and some suicidal idiot setting off a full nuclear exchange (when you're an octogenarian tyrant with no heirs you give two craps about why leave anything for anyone else?) at worst.

Kiero

Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 14, 2022, 09:48:38 AM
Mmm. You might ask Marie Antoinette how that worked out. Or the Ceausescus.

It's always a mistake to say 'Why worry about something that won't happen?'.

Not a coincidence that neither of your examples are in the 21st century. I've lived through the last 2 years, the majority are spineless and utterly oblivious. They've been terrified, atomised and cucked.

Look at Australia. Look at Canada. Look at New Zealand. Look at most of mainland Europe. People haven't merely looked the other way while authoritarian bullshit was imposed on them, some of them heartily cheered it.
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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Kiero on April 16, 2022, 06:20:15 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 14, 2022, 09:48:38 AM
Mmm. You might ask Marie Antoinette how that worked out. Or the Ceausescus.

It's always a mistake to say 'Why worry about something that won't happen?'.

Not a coincidence that neither of your examples are in the 21st century. I've lived through the last 2 years, the majority are spineless and utterly oblivious. They've been terrified, atomised and cucked.

Look at Australia. Look at Canada. Look at New Zealand. Look at most of mainland Europe. People haven't merely looked the other way while authoritarian bullshit was imposed on them, some of them heartily cheered it.
OK doomer.

oggsmash

Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 16, 2022, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 16, 2022, 06:20:15 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 14, 2022, 09:48:38 AM
Mmm. You might ask Marie Antoinette how that worked out. Or the Ceausescus.

It's always a mistake to say 'Why worry about something that won't happen?'.

Not a coincidence that neither of your examples are in the 21st century. I've lived through the last 2 years, the majority are spineless and utterly oblivious. They've been terrified, atomised and cucked.

Look at Australia. Look at Canada. Look at New Zealand. Look at most of mainland Europe. People haven't merely looked the other way while authoritarian bullshit was imposed on them, some of them heartily cheered it.
OK doomer.

  Well he is in Europe.    Seems to be a connection between disarmed and compliant to a degree.   

Ogre

Quote from: Kiero on April 16, 2022, 06:20:15 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 14, 2022, 09:48:38 AM
Mmm. You might ask Marie Antoinette how that worked out. Or the Ceausescus.

It's always a mistake to say 'Why worry about something that won't happen?'.

Not a coincidence that neither of your examples are in the 21st century. I've lived through the last 2 years, the majority are spineless and utterly oblivious. They've been terrified, atomised and cucked.

Look at Australia. Look at Canada. Look at New Zealand. Look at most of mainland Europe. People haven't merely looked the other way while authoritarian bullshit was imposed on them, some of them heartily cheered it.
I don't think you understand that most of the US didn't shut down. Just the big cities otherwise there would have a lot more starving mouths to feed. Hell I'm surprised to learn people are still playing covid into 2022

Kiero

Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 16, 2022, 10:18:42 AM
OK doomer.

Quote from: oggsmash on April 16, 2022, 11:14:46 AM
  Well he is in Europe.    Seems to be a connection between disarmed and compliant to a degree.

It wasn't even as strictly followed in the UK as mainland Europe, yet most people willingly went along with it. Even now with no mandates in place, people are so brainwashed about half still wear muzzles in shops.

Our vaccination rate is well over 80% of the adult population and they're making big inroads into children. 92% of covid deaths are in the double or triple jabbed.

Quote from: Ogre on April 16, 2022, 03:43:33 PM
I don't think you understand that most of the US didn't shut down. Just the big cities otherwise there would have a lot more starving mouths to feed. Hell I'm surprised to learn people are still playing covid into 2022

I'm not American and I'm not talking about the US. I'm talking about most of the rest of the developed world.
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Chris24601

#1376
Quote from: Ogre on April 16, 2022, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: Kiero on April 16, 2022, 06:20:15 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 14, 2022, 09:48:38 AM
Mmm. You might ask Marie Antoinette how that worked out. Or the Ceausescus.

It's always a mistake to say 'Why worry about something that won't happen?'.

Not a coincidence that neither of your examples are in the 21st century. I've lived through the last 2 years, the majority are spineless and utterly oblivious. They've been terrified, atomised and cucked.

Look at Australia. Look at Canada. Look at New Zealand. Look at most of mainland Europe. People haven't merely looked the other way while authoritarian bullshit was imposed on them, some of them heartily cheered it.
I don't think you understand that most of the US didn't shut down. Just the big cities otherwise there would have a lot more starving mouths to feed. Hell I'm surprised to learn people are still playing covid into 2022
Europeans and coastal city dwellers have no idea how big the United States are... nor how wide open and diverse it is. Electric vehicles just aren't viable in most of the country where you have to drive 20 miles to work and 10 miles to the grocery. Nor is mass transit when huge swaths of the population live in areas where the population density is 35/km2 or less. Fortunately our gas prices remain low enough ($3.89/gallon this morning) that it hasn't crippled us yet.

There are places that never shut down for Covid at all. My state (Indiana) started opening up after just a couple months and was wide open again in early 2021. A few nuts still wear masks in public, but they're notable precisely for how unusual they are (we're also 40% unvaxxed and barely 50% had two doses and only 40% are considered fully vaxxed).

My state's legislature actually passed laws to keep the governor from using emergency powers again and just passed Constitutional Carry (meaning you don't even need a license to carry a concealed handgun... open carry of long arms was already legal). We had a budget surplus so our state government decided to send the excess back to the actual taxpayers.

Basically, states like Indiana and Florida are completely different realms from the Leftist coastal strongholds. What you're going to increasingly see is a cleaving of those areas from the failing regions of the country... not violence or secession so much as just ignoring federal decrees they don't actually have the ability to enforce.

Shasarak

Quote from: Kiero on April 16, 2022, 06:20:15 AM
Look at Australia. Look at Canada. Look at New Zealand. Look at most of mainland Europe. People haven't merely looked the other way while authoritarian bullshit was imposed on them, some of them heartily cheered it.

You are giving the NZ government too much credit.  They are far too useless to organise a piss up in a brewery let alone anything really authoritarian
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Kiero

Quote from: Shasarak on April 16, 2022, 08:21:42 PM
You are giving the NZ government too much credit.  They are far too useless to organise a piss up in a brewery let alone anything really authoritarian

They successfully isolated the country from the rest of the world (except for the elites, of course).
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Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Kiero

Well I'll be. Buried on page 78 of the official UK government reporting on covid and flu: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1069290/Weekly_Flu_and_COVID-19_report_w15_v2.pdf

Is Table 7. Which admits that there are 19 million unjabbed (contrary to the much touted 5 million figure they used in press conferences a few months ago). Plus another 2.5 million who never had a second or third dose, and another 9 million who haven't had a third.

So unsurprisingly the claims about the numbers jabbed are a lie. Meanwhile over 90% of those dying with covid are at least double-jabbed, 80% are triple. Really effective...
Currently running: Tyche\'s Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.