Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[Pat]

We literally have statements by Pisaki and other that they will pay. And given how they've progressively tightened the screws far beyond their original claims on nearly everything, it requires a staggering level of naivety to dismiss the concern.

Reporter: Do you think the COVID vaccine should be mandatory?

Biden: No, I don't think it should be mandatory. I wouldn't demand it to be mandatory.

Pisaki is mistaken or lying then. Does that possibly really shock you? Very likely just trying to scare people into getting the vaccine because they're ignorant that the testing is free. Congress passed that law - TWICE in fact. It can be lifted by lifting the emergency declaration but given the vaccine mandate requires the emergency declaration I don't see how that would work.

Pat have you never been tested? Were you not aware you can get them for free?

I've been tested several times. I'm quite aware that the tests have been free. Probably far more so than you, because I've actually called around to verify that for people who do not have health insurance (who exist, despite your denial).

Stop being a patronizing, dishonest scumbag. That's not what this discussion is about. You're just trying to reframe it that way in a pathetic attempt to score points.

The current administration has repeatedly promised that everything would be optional, and then went back on their word at the slightest excuse, whether it was a minor surge, a new variant, or whatever other reason they could conjure. They've done everything they can to coerce, threaten, or just outright hurt anyone who disagrees with their totalitarian dictates. They occasionally back down when there's too much public pressure, but keep edging forward again. One step back, two jack boots goose-stepping forward. They've repeatedly defied court rulings to do so, and they control both houses of Congress. What deluded world do you live in where you think they won't use the cost of the tests as a weapon to force compliance? It's the most parsimonious outcome, and we need to speak out loudly and forcefully against if it we're going to have any chance of stopping it.

[oggsmash]

 So, I guess the message is, so long as the condom is free do not complain about the sodomy? 

[3catcircus]

So, I guess the message is, so long as the condom is free do not complain about the sodomy?

Might as well lie down and enjoy it...

[dkabq]

So, I guess the message is, so long as the condom is free do not complain about the sodomy?

Might as well lie down and enjoy it...

BOHICA!

[Kiero]

In our latest completely unnecessary press conference from our fat, stupid cunt of a PM, he hinted our military will be "helping" people get vaccinated. Is he envisaging an Australian solution to all of us unjabbed?

[oggsmash]

In our latest completely unnecessary press conference from out fat, stupid cunt of a PM, he hinted our military will be "helping" people get vaccinated. Is he envisaging an Australian solution to all of us unjabbed?

  I can not imagine how super jealous our politicians are of yours and australia's politicians.   Of course they might end up "helping" some of us here as well.  Though here it will be really fucking ugly.

[Kiero]

  I can not imagine how super jealous our politicians are of yours and australia's politicians.   Of course they might end up "helping" some of us here as well.  Though here it will be really fucking ugly.

Not a coincidence the Aussies were disarmed a few years back...

Our Health Secretary made a big play of how there are 5 million of us who've never had a jab (then tried some pathetic emotional blackmail about how we're putting ourselves and everyone around us "at risk"). Course the real number is likely much higher than that, not least because their population estimates are wrong.

And I'll trust to the natural immunity I have, which is significantly more effective than your anaemic jab "immunity" thanks.

[Mistwell]

We literally have statements by Pisaki and other that they will pay. And given how they've progressively tightened the screws far beyond their original claims on nearly everything, it requires a staggering level of naivety to dismiss the concern.

Reporter: Do you think the COVID vaccine should be mandatory?

Biden: No, I don't think it should be mandatory. I wouldn't demand it to be mandatory.

Pisaki is mistaken or lying then. Does that possibly really shock you? Very likely just trying to scare people into getting the vaccine because they're ignorant that the testing is free. Congress passed that law - TWICE in fact. It can be lifted by lifting the emergency declaration but given the vaccine mandate requires the emergency declaration I don't see how that would work.

Pat have you never been tested? Were you not aware you can get them for free?

I've been tested several times. I'm quite aware that the tests have been free. Probably far more so than you, because I've actually called around to verify that for people who do not have health insurance (who exist, despite your denial).

Stop being a patronizing, dishonest scumbag. That's not what this discussion is about. You're just trying to reframe it that way in a pathetic attempt to score points.

The current administration has repeatedly promised that everything would be optional, and then went back on their word at the slightest excuse, whether it was a minor surge, a new variant, or whatever other reason they could conjure. They've done everything they can to coerce, threaten, or just outright hurt anyone who disagrees with their totalitarian dictates. They occasionally back down when there's too much public pressure, but keep edging forward again. One step back, two jack boots goose-stepping forward. They've repeatedly defied court rulings to do so, and they control both houses of Congress. What deluded world do you live in where you think they won't use the cost of the tests as a weapon to force compliance? It's the most parsimonious outcome, and we need to speak out loudly and forcefully against if it we're going to have any chance of stopping it.

Of course some people have no health insurance - it's covered for free even in that instance too and that's right there in the law.

You're claiming they will change the law to comply with your world view of how it works. Which is complete nonsense. UNTIL the law is changed - and NOBODY so far has even mentioned the possibility of changing that law - your view of how it works was wrong. But instead of admitting you were wrong, you are personally attacking me and ranting nonsense about how they will magically change the law or break the law to match how you thought it already works but doesn't.

What does it take for you to admit you were wrong, other than an actual law showing you were wrong? I mean if that isn't enough, I am seriously asking what level of evidence it would take for you to admit you were mistaken?

[Shrieking Banshee]

Of course some people have no health insurance - it's covered for free even in that instance too and that's right there in the law.

Well its covered by raised taxes/debt. Its not really free. Its mandatory debt/taxes for something with not a great rate of detection.

Resources are not magic, and their mismanagement can get people killed as much as any virus (the impact is just harder to detect).

Can we just wait at this point to get something that works well enough a new quad-anual variant won't render it mostly useless? And then pay for that?

[Zelen]

Of course some people have no health insurance - it's covered for free even in that instance too and that's right there in the law.

Well its covered by raised taxes/debt. Its not really free. Its mandatory debt/taxes for something with not a great rate of detection.

Resources are not magic, and their mismanagement can get people killed as much as any virus (the impact is just harder to detect).

Can we just wait at this point to get something that works well enough a new quad-anual variant won't render it mostly useless? And then pay for that?

Nope. There is more money (& importantly, more control) in booster shots every 3-6 months, with forever-expiring passports and fusion of corporate & government in globalized medical apartheid state.

What is that you say? Maybe we should allocate the funds used on perpetual fearmongering & testing onto something that would actually provide long term quality of life & longevity benefits, rather than on something that primarily benefits octogenerians? Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of a boot jabbing a needle into a human face, forever.

[Pat]

Of course some people have no health insurance - it's covered for free even in that instance too and that's right there in the law.

You're claiming they will change the law to comply with your world view of how it works. Which is complete nonsense. UNTIL the law is changed - and NOBODY so far has even mentioned the possibility of changing that law - your view of how it works was wrong. But instead of admitting you were wrong, you are personally attacking me and ranting nonsense about how they will magically change the law or break the law to match how you thought it already works but doesn't.

What does it take for you to admit you were wrong, other than an actual law showing you were wrong? I mean if that isn't enough, I am seriously asking what level of evidence it would take for you to admit you were mistaken?

Jen Pisaki is NOBODY?

I literally cited the president's spokesperson. You acknowledged that. You said she was wrong to say that. I also cited a clear pattern showing how the administration has constantly gone back on their word, and are continually moving the goalposts in the direction of coercion. And yet you're denying that, just like how one post back you were denying that some people lack healthcare insurance.

You're not just wrong, you're completely irrational. You're literally posting claims that completely contradict points you addressed and agreed to just a couple posts ago. You've turned into a creepy stalker obsessed with randomly insulting me, randomly making up shit about me, and above all proving me wrong, even if you have absolutely no grounds, and it's all because you flipped out when I called you out on your dishonest, bullshit tactics a few weeks ago.

Grow the the hell up.

[Pat]

What is that you say? Maybe we should allocate the funds used on perpetual fearmongering & testing onto something that would actually provide long term quality of life & longevity benefits, rather than on something that primarily benefits octogenerians? Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of a boot jabbing a needle into a human face, forever.

I know I'm repeating myself, but I'm still going to recommend, again, that everyone read Hannah Arendt's The Origins of Totalitarianism. The first section about the rise of antisemitism isn't particularly relevant to today, but the section about imperialism had a lot of surprising parallels, and almost every paragraph in the final section on totalitarianism echoes what's been happening. The parts about the use of terror as an excuse to fabricate a crisis and seize power, the desperate need not just to oppose but to completely stifle any opposing sources of information, the need to not just take political control but to dictate all parts of a person's life, the way the true radicalism of the movement is concealed by more moderate elements, the way it appeals to the socially isolated, and on and on is uncanny.

[dkabq]

"Sad Little Man" by FiveTimesAugust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6plsSlxOstQ

[Kiero]

What a surprise. Coming on the back of Austria and Germany imposing mandatory vaccination, now the EU is suggesting all their Member States follow suit: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/01/eu-must-consider-mandatory-covid-jabs-says-von-der-leyen

Definitely not co-ordinated, though.

[Kiero]

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