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Author Topic: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!  (Read 199056 times)

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #675 on: September 26, 2021, 07:09:30 AM »
If Progressive judges hadn't effectively nullified the Tenth Amendment -- "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." -- there would be less need for smaller countries. In essence, the States are supposed to be akin to countries in their level of self-governance, each an individual experiment in democracy. This is how the founders imagined it, with a limited federal government overseeing everything, all its powers (and its ONLY powers) enumerated in the Constitution.

Over time, however, the States ceded more and more power to the federal government, with an assist from the courts. Instead of fifty independent experiments in democracy, we now have fifty vassal states chained and leashed to a monstrous overseer in the form of a federal government run amok. This has, naturally, bled into American culture. We have people in California gnashing their teeth over politics in North Carolina, a state over 2,000 miles away that might as well be a foreign country for all the influence it has over their lives -- or should and would have over their lives, that is, if Congress actually respected the Constitution and didn't write legislation in flagrant violation of the Tenth Amendment.

Even then, you have nothing like the level of centralisation we have in the UK. There is only Westminster and a few city mayors given a few token powers. All that local authorities do is choose how to dole out the grants given to them by central government, they have no lawmaking powers of their own.
Towards the start of the pandemic, I was listening to a British YouTuber, who was very critical of the US federal government for failing to impose mandates, without understanding they didn't have that authority. He just assumed assumed the federal government could step in and do whatever they want, and had a hard time grasping the concept of states rights or federalization. He ended up apologizing to his American viewers, and then made the same mistake in the next video. He never really grokked the concept.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #676 on: September 26, 2021, 08:58:33 AM »
Towards the start of the pandemic, I was listening to a British YouTuber, who was very critical of the US federal government for failing to impose mandates, without understanding they didn't have that authority. He just assumed assumed the federal government could step in and do whatever they want, and had a hard time grasping the concept of states rights or federalization. He ended up apologizing to his American viewers, and then made the same mistake in the next video. He never really grokked the concept.

Modern Britain is one of the most centralised "democracies" (post-covid I use that word advisedly) in the world. I don't think my fellow Brits necessarily appreciate that. Though it's not unusual compared to some European countries (though others are just as federalised as the US).
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #677 on: September 26, 2021, 09:42:29 AM »
Modern Britain is one of the most centralised "democracies" (post-covid I use that word advisedly) in the world.

Such a ‘democracy’ it sought to distance itself from the rest of its allies. You know, just saying.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #678 on: September 26, 2021, 09:44:15 AM »
Modern Britain is one of the most centralised "democracies" (post-covid I use that word advisedly) in the world.

Such a ‘democracy’ it sought to distance itself from the rest of its allies. You know, just saying.
You spelled 'retards in Brussels who couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery' as 'allies'.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #679 on: September 26, 2021, 09:59:07 AM »
Such a ‘democracy’ it sought to distance itself from the rest of its allies. You know, just saying.

Why am I not surprised a retard like you is in favour of the utterly corrupt EU?
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #680 on: September 26, 2021, 10:18:30 AM »
Such a ‘democracy’ it sought to distance itself from the rest of its allies. You know, just saying.

Why am I not surprised a retard like you is in favour of the utterly corrupt EU?

You know, maybe you’re right. I can’t even spell bretix correct.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #681 on: October 06, 2021, 03:48:22 PM »
CBS: Texas man sentenced to 15 months in prison for spreading COVID-19 hoax on Facebook

I agree with the decision. Now, let's see how many people actually read the article to see what it's about before they react to it.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #682 on: October 06, 2021, 04:07:45 PM »
If Progressive judges hadn't effectively nullified the Tenth Amendment -- "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." -- there would be less need for smaller countries. In essence, the States are supposed to be akin to countries in their level of self-governance, each an individual experiment in democracy. This is how the founders imagined it, with a limited federal government overseeing everything, all its powers (and its ONLY powers) enumerated in the Constitution.

Over time, however, the States ceded more and more power to the federal government, with an assist from the courts. Instead of fifty independent experiments in democracy, we now have fifty vassal states chained and leashed to a monstrous overseer in the form of a federal government run amok. This has, naturally, bled into American culture. We have people in California gnashing their teeth over politics in North Carolina, a state over 2,000 miles away that might as well be a foreign country for all the influence it has over their lives -- or should and would have over their lives, that is, if Congress actually respected the Constitution and didn't write legislation in flagrant violation of the Tenth Amendment.

Even then, you have nothing like the level of centralisation we have in the UK. There is only Westminster and a few city mayors given a few token powers. All that local authorities do is choose how to dole out the grants given to them by central government, they have no lawmaking powers of their own.

There's also the Welsh Assembly, Scottish Parliament and Stormont you weird little englander.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #683 on: October 06, 2021, 06:33:51 PM »
CBS: Texas man sentenced to 15 months in prison for spreading COVID-19 hoax on Facebook

I agree with the decision. Now, let's see how many people actually read the article to see what it's about before they react to it.
He didn't even lick anything. He made a Facebook post where he (falsely) claimed he hired someone with covid-19 to go into a store and lick some stuff.

And he's going to jail for 15 yearsmonths. That's obscene, and I don't see how anyone without an entire row of jackboots in their closet can support it. It's basically a bad-taste prank. It wasn't even a physical prank, it was just words.

If the problem is he scared people, then we should go after public health and the news organizations who have been driving the weak-minded into irrational fear for the past 18 months. Not him.

Fucking hell. Totalitarianism is here.

I'd seriously support disbanding the FBI at this point.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #684 on: October 06, 2021, 07:13:47 PM »
Making a shitty Facebook post: Jail-worthy. Free Speech be Damned.
Bitching at your School Board for being shitty: Domestic Terrorism!
Minor trespassing, some rioting: Domestic Terrorism, Jailable for months in solitary without charges.
Burning down city blocks, attempting to block people inside buildings with burning dumpsters: Mostly peaceful, not worth investigating.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #685 on: October 06, 2021, 07:18:44 PM »
Making a shitty Facebook post: Jail-worthy. Free Speech be Damned.
Bitching at your School Board for being shitty: Domestic Terrorism!
Minor trespassing, some rioting: Domestic Terrorism, Jailable for months in solitary without charges.
Burning down city blocks, attempting to block people inside buildings with burning dumpsters: Mostly peaceful, not worth investigating.

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It's worse than that. From the article: "The investigation was conducted by FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, along with Weapons of Mass Destruction personnel."

A shitty prank is now tantamount to being a nuclear terrorist. The government is treating people who exercise free speech like Bond villains.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #686 on: October 06, 2021, 07:22:07 PM »
CBS: Texas man sentenced to 15 months in prison for spreading COVID-19 hoax on Facebook

I agree with the decision. Now, let's see how many people actually read the article to see what it's about before they react to it.
He didn't even lick anything. He made a Facebook post where he (falsely) claimed he hired someone with covid-19 to go into a store and lick some stuff.

And he's going to jail for 15 years. That's obscene, and I don't see how anyone without an entire row of jackboots in their closet can support it. It's basically a bad-taste prank. It wasn't even a physical prank, it was just words.

If the problem is he scared people, then we should go after public health and the news organizations who have been driving the weak-minded into irrational fear for the past 18 months. Not him.

Fucking hell. Totalitarianism is here.

I'd seriously support disbanding the FBI at this point.

Its 15 months not years, but gawd what the actual fuck.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #687 on: October 06, 2021, 07:24:53 PM »
Making a shitty Facebook post: Jail-worthy. Free Speech be Damned.
Bitching at your School Board for being shitty: Domestic Terrorism!
Minor trespassing, some rioting: Domestic Terrorism, Jailable for months in solitary without charges.
Burning down city blocks, attempting to block people inside buildings with burning dumpsters: Mostly peaceful, not worth investigating.

Clown World! 🤡
It's worse than that. From the article: "The investigation was conducted by FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, along with Weapons of Mass Destruction personnel."

A shitty prank is now tantamount to being a nuclear terrorist. The government is treating people who exercise free speech like Bond villains.
If this was a movie, the FBI would have better uniforms. Probably black, with shiny bits.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #688 on: October 06, 2021, 07:26:37 PM »
I blame Bush. The Patriot Act was the tipping point.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #689 on: October 06, 2021, 07:59:10 PM »
I blame Bush. The Patriot Act was the tipping point.
It was already close to that point.
Sammy Weaver was 14. Many of the Waco kids were younger.
Many of the men involved in those fiascos had careers up to and including the previous administration and this one. Bill Barr was Trump-Era. David Chipman almost made ATF head this year.