Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[HappyDaze]

When does the pandemic end?

It will never end.

It will end on a Tuesday. Still not sure which Tuesday.

   Doubtful, Friday is always the best day for a firing.  Gives the pandemic the weekend to cool off.

Fake news! It was/will be Tuesday forever!

[Kiero]

But you probably think hospitals exceeding operating capacity is a myth too.

It certainly was in the UK since they stopped doing everything else bar "treating" covid. Even though many hospitals spent months sitting idle doing nothing at all.

We now have a backlog of 14 million people waiting for treatment thanks to months of doing fuck all.

[Kiero]

Whoops, Israel is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world, infections are raging out of control: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cdc-israel-covid-risk-b1899691.html

If only they had access to cheap, safe, generic treatments which brought infection under control in India...

[Pat]

Lessons learned thus far: the World's economy cannot sustain anymore damage to the most profitable months: June-August and December. There always will be reopenings, the Covid cases will climb, if dangerous variants appear --> new shot.

I imagine that's even worse in Italy, since you haven't recovered from 2008. The US economy has problems, but is in a much stronger position.

[HappyDaze]

But you probably think hospitals exceeding operating capacity is a myth too.

It certainly was in the UK since they stopped doing everything else bar "treating" covid. Even though many hospitals spent months sitting idle doing nothing at all.

We now have a backlog of 14 million people waiting for treatment thanks to months of doing fuck all.

Do you have an article that discusses the UK's Covid response (as objectively as possible)? Serious question; I'm not fucking with you this time.

[Reckall]

Lessons learned thus far: the World's economy cannot sustain anymore damage to the most profitable months: June-August and December. There always will be reopenings, the Covid cases will climb, if dangerous variants appear --> new shot.

I imagine that's even worse in Italy, since you haven't recovered from 2008. The US economy has problems, but is in a much stronger position.

According to a friend of mine who manages private investments for a big bank, the Covid is a blessing in disguise because the measures taken by the EU will, as a side effect, delay the reckoning with our national debt. I was unable to follow his reasoning because my understanding of economy has always been sketchy. Factually, my generation should be the last still in the clear but the next one is basically fucked.

[Shasarak]

But you probably think hospitals exceeding operating capacity is a myth too.

It certainly was in the UK since they stopped doing everything else bar "treating" covid. Even though many hospitals spent months sitting idle doing nothing at all.

We now have a backlog of 14 million people waiting for treatment thanks to months of doing fuck all.

Do you have an article that discusses the UK's Covid response (as objectively as possible)? Serious question; I'm not fucking with you this time.

[DocJones]

For you to be able to offend me I would need to care about your opinion, I don't, you're just another NPC.

It's great that we agree that neithet of us give a shit about what the other thinks. Well now, that's one thing we got.

What about Breakfast at Tiffany's?
=)

[Pat]

Lessons learned thus far: the World's economy cannot sustain anymore damage to the most profitable months: June-August and December. There always will be reopenings, the Covid cases will climb, if dangerous variants appear --> new shot.

I imagine that's even worse in Italy, since you haven't recovered from 2008. The US economy has problems, but is in a much stronger position.

According to a friend of mine who manages private investments for a big bank, the Covid is a blessing in disguise because the measures taken by the EU will, as a side effect, delay the reckoning with our national debt. I was unable to follow his reasoning because my understanding of economy has always been sketchy. Factually, my generation should be the last still in the clear but the next one is basically fucked.

I haven't really been following the EU's monetary policy, but I can probably guess the basic reason. In the US, the Fed has been doing everything it can to keep interest rates low. Ostensibly, this is to help the economy and lower the unemployment rate via Keynesian magic, but at this point the real reason might as well be to keep the cost of servicing the national debt low. The US is paying about half a trillion dollars in interest a year on $28 trillion in debt, but that's only because interest rates are close to zero. If interest rate ever rose back to normal, the interest payments could easily eclipse the entire federal budget. Italy has a pretty spectacular debt, so they have the same concern. But while the US prints money to buy up assets, and that continual pump of money into the capital sector is what keeps interest rates low, Italy doesn't have that option. The US is a monetary sovereign, and can print all the money they want. But Italy gave up that power to the EU, when they adopted the Euro. So anything that encourages the EU to keep interest rates low benefits Italy and helps stave off the debt crisis, because it keeps the service costs on Italy's national debt manageable. There are probably some subtleties I'm missing, but that should be the basic outline.

[Zelen]

"Look guys, in order to sustain bio-surveillance tyranny and enrich tech & pharmaceutical billionaires keep yourself safe you are going to have to get five shots."

[Ratman_tf]

"Look guys, in order to sustain bio-surveillance tyranny and enrich tech & pharmaceutical billionaires keep yourself safe you are going to have to get five shots."

I'm waiting until IV drips of the vaccines are mandatory.

[GriswaldTerrastone]

Another factor is this: when the polio and measles vaccines came out decades ago there was an entirely different mindset. Yes those companies were out to make money, but they also did want to help people along the way. This is why those vaccines were effective: they were tested thoroughly and were made as safe as possible back then.

But now? The media, which is like one endless Big Pharma infomercial, hypes up the danger from this disease- yes it is dangerous but look up how many people were dying of "regular" flu, how many die from prescription drugs, and how many die in hospitals due to negligence- and ask yourself what if any of that had been given as much non-stop attention from media and government?- then sells people on vaccines that were rushed out, did not even get proper FDA approval (for what that's worth these days); the only absolutely sure vaccination seems to be that people cannot sue the drug companies no matter what happens- gee, THAT sure makes one confident about it all, doesn't it?

What's more, how many of these vaccines are made overseas? No problem there, right?

Years ago, on a site called "Return of Kings," someone commented that with the way our government is now if ever anything serious ever happens they will prove to be incompetent to say the least- and he was right. The way this mess was handled was disgraceful.

But a more chilling aspect is obvious: many people get this vaccine because they want government and the like off their backs. They want things to return to "normal," or at least as normal as it can be in this inverted society. They will be told this isn't going to happen because of those people who aren't vaccinated. Guess what happens then?

I'm also tired of the prattle about "herd immunity." This can only occur if you have sufficient numbers of immune individuals, but the way they are talking this vaccine is like bulletproof armor that doesn't work if the guy next to you isn't wearing any. This disease will ALWAYS be around according to the "experts" and such, so what good is a vaccine if it does not simply protect YOU?

Did you ever wonder why junk mail wasn't stopped for a time? If this disease was as contagious as they had originally said then one good way to block its spread was by blocking junk mail. I've worked these kind of jobs and trust me- they do NOT follow sanitary procedures.     

But the main thing is how mentalities have changed. The fact that "Brave New World" is not so shocking as it was even when I was young, and the outright greed of the corporations behind the vaccines, have only shown how far down Western society has fallen. It is very depressing.

[FelixGamingX1]

I'm not too concerned about how many booster shots people will need to take. If anything, the new tech could even help fight off cancerous cells or whatever they program into it. Enough people already took it to deem it safe. I'm just curious on why and how long it will take for full approval.

[GriswaldTerrastone]

It is impossible at this point to say it is safe- there simply has been no time to determine any long-range problems, or even how long it's good for.

[Zelen]

Pfizer's study that was supposed to be 6 months was actually only 4 months, since at the 4 month mark in both the vaccinated & placebo cohort they offloaded about 90% of the trial participants. Detailed analysis.

Safety data that we have on the vaccines is already incredibly poor due to high censorship environment and little-to-no interest by drug manufacturers in actually figuring out why tens of thousands of people have died. Moderna alone has over 300,000 reports of vaccine injury that it's failed to report to VAERS. There is no safety data for additional shots, or for mix-and-match vax approaches that many people are now suggesting. It's actually criminal to suggest unproven approaches with extremely high rate of negative reaction compared to well-known and well-tolerated existing drugs.