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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #75 on: August 05, 2021, 04:06:36 PM »
Trump held the reigns for the first year of Covid. What combination of "Marxists, cock-sucking Liberals, Globalist, and woke fucking morons" would you put him and his "best people" into?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Of the top four of states with the highest deaths per 1M, 3 have democrat governors (with that noted Red state Massachusetts being the exception).  All locked down and the top 2 (NY & NJ) put Covid cases into old-folks homes, causing most of the deaths.  Florida is 26th.  Texas is 25th (both at 1/2 the rate of NY).  Looks like the northeastern states are the ones that screwed up the most, and Trump didn't win a single one of them...
Win those states or not, the guy at the top takes ultimate blame, whether that's Trump or Biden (I'm not fond of either).

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #76 on: August 05, 2021, 04:22:04 PM »
Hey SHARK...Do you know this guy?   ;D

https://twitter.com/Saint_BTC/status/1420942302399262727
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #77 on: August 05, 2021, 04:49:54 PM »
Trump held the reigns for the first year of Covid. What combination of "Marxists, cock-sucking Liberals, Globalist, and woke fucking morons" would you put him and his "best people" into?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Of the top four of states with the highest deaths per 1M, 3 have democrat governors (with that noted Red state Massachusetts being the exception).  All locked down and the top 2 (NY & NJ) put Covid cases into old-folks homes, causing most of the deaths.  Florida is 26th.  Texas is 25th (both at 1/2 the rate of NY).  Looks like the northeastern states are the ones that screwed up the most, and Trump didn't win a single one of them...
Win those states or not, the guy at the top takes ultimate blame, whether that's Trump or Biden (I'm not fond of either).
The "guy at the top" is the governor.  That's how our Republic works.  Of course, I recognize the totalitarian types here would much rather live under a dictatorship, but that's not how the U.S. works...

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #78 on: August 05, 2021, 04:58:07 PM »

It's an eyewitness statement that can be backed with hard data, but I am not at liberty to share that data and you are not cleared to receive it. So all you get is my statement...and that of many other healthcare workers that have seen similar events. But you just want to doubt them all. You have my pity too.

Oh please....spare us your fucking bullshit.

What about the healthcare workers who suggested the prophylactics a year and a half ago? 
It is truly amazing how all the 'medical experts who were dead set on denying anyone the 'right to try' are now pushing forced experimental treatments...

This was your moment in the sun. 
Was it not the world's worst healthcare situation of your professional life?
You could have stepped up and used your expertise to help stop intentional misinformation by medical bureaucrats who had significant financial conflicts of interest.
You are supposed to be an expert...isn't it part of your duty to fight back against that kind of garbage?

Instead, you kept pocketing your paycheck and repeated fucking talking points. 
Instead, You keep harassing us because we keep asking questions.
Instead, You let your TDS get in the way of whatever limited reasoning capability you have.

Then you attempt to wash your hands of it by taking the old 'Well, I never actually said anything one way or the other about...' route.


To paraphrase someone else on this board.  I don't need pity from someone that is only worthy of my contempt.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #79 on: August 05, 2021, 05:29:13 PM »
Hey SHARK...Do you know this guy?   ;D

https://twitter.com/Saint_BTC/status/1420942302399262727

Greetings!

FUCKING OOH RAH! Damn right I know him! ;D He seems like an outstanding Marine Veteran! Funny as hell, too! I just loved his straight expression at the end. That's right, brother! I'm not running any damn where, and no one is going to force me to do anything.

Loved that video, my friend!

I really wish our country would wake the hell up and stop being such weak fucking pussies, and so eager to get on their fucking knees, you know? This country used to pride itself on being rugged, masculine, and independent.

That's what happens when all these people swallow Marxism and Feminism. So fucking eager to stay on their knees and be obedient to the fucking women. Don't offend the precious women! Don't make the women feel uncomfortable or triggered! Everything must be safe! No one can ever feel excluded! Whaa! Whaa! Whaa! Don't dare offend anyone!

See, back in the day, when some moron threatened a man, or insulted him, the police weren't called. The man just drew on him and smoked the fucker. Or jackasses just got fucking beat down. BEAT! Conversely, in a general sense, people were accustomed to living in a harsh, brutal world where people said "offensive" things to others all the time. There is no Constitutional protection allowing you to never be offended. People can say whatever the fuck they want. It creates a truly free environment where people have to learn to be independent, and actually function like reasonable adults, instead of like sobbing, crying bitches and soy boys. *Sigh* This is what our society and culture have come to. Corrupt, and decadent, and absolutely feminized, sniveling, and weak.

It is inspiring to see a few of us still holding true to being free, strong, and independent, like the man in your video. Fucking outstanding! ;D

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #80 on: August 05, 2021, 05:51:09 PM »
I've personally seen scores relatively healthy (damn near nobody is "perfectly healthy") individuals in their 30s and 40s with severe Covid-related symptoms in the last few months. I have directly witnessed a few of them die from it. The same is true for everyone else I work alongside.

I see the current death rate for the Wuhan Covid for ages 30 to 39 range from 0.1% to 0.3%, so if we use an average of 0.2% times the population of Florida (2.6 million aged 30 to 39) equals 5 200 people.

So if you work in healthcare in Florida then yes I would expect you to see "a few" die from the Wuhan Covid.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #81 on: August 05, 2021, 05:52:11 PM »
Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future.
https://www.statnews.com/2021/05/14/setting-the-record-straight-there-is-no-covid-heart/

The fact is there is no "consensus" as to the long term effects of either Covid or the vaccines.  Statements to the contrary are simply the "science as product" fallacy.  For people who have already had Covid or for whom the chance of complications are small (healthy and under 60), the risk of the disease is less than the risk of the vaccine. 

I know lots of people who had Covid.  I know no one who died or had serious long-term effects from it.  The same is true for everyone else I know.  All of the people who have died in my locality were in nursing homes or were already seriously ill.  I've been vaxxed, simply because I knew my industry was going to mandate it and I wanted it on my terms (single shot, non-mRNA).  Why are the 20-30 year-olds here in good health wrong for not getting vaccinated?
I've personally seen scores relatively healthy (damn near nobody is "perfectly healthy") individuals in their 30s and 40s with severe Covid-related symptoms in the last few months. I have directly witnessed a few of them die from it. The same is true for everyone else I work alongside.
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My point is that young and healthy people are at risk and are dying even if you are in denial. Florida, in particular, is getting hit hard right now. I hear Louisiana is bad too, but I don't have firsthand accounts on that.

firsthand accounts = Anecdotal "evidence"
It's an eyewitness statement that can be backed with hard data, but I am not at liberty to share that data and you are not cleared to receive it. So all you get is my statement...and that of many other healthcare workers that have seen similar events. But you just want to doubt them all. You have my pity too.

Sources? Trust me bro!

Yeah, I'm an eskeptic, I do not trust people, I trust evidence, Anecdotical evidence isn't evidence. Plus appeals to authority? Seriously?

That's a fallacy, a no-no when dealing with people using logic.

Your argument is the same as : "It's true because the Bible says so"
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #82 on: August 05, 2021, 05:56:07 PM »

It's an eyewitness statement that can be backed with hard data, but I am not at liberty to share that data and you are not cleared to receive it. So all you get is my statement...and that of many other healthcare workers that have seen similar events. But you just want to doubt them all. You have my pity too.

Oh please....spare us your fucking bullshit.

What about the healthcare workers who suggested the prophylactics a year and a half ago? 
It is truly amazing how all the 'medical experts who were dead set on denying anyone the 'right to try' are now pushing forced experimental treatments...

This was your moment in the sun. 
Was it not the world's worst healthcare situation of your professional life?
You could have stepped up and used your expertise to help stop intentional misinformation by medical bureaucrats who had significant financial conflicts of interest.
You are supposed to be an expert...isn't it part of your duty to fight back against that kind of garbage?

Instead, you kept pocketing your paycheck and repeated fucking talking points. 
Instead, You keep harassing us because we keep asking questions.
Instead, You let your TDS get in the way of whatever limited reasoning capability you have.

Then you attempt to wash your hands of it by taking the old 'Well, I never actually said anything one way or the other about...' route.


To paraphrase someone else on this board.  I don't need pity from someone that is only worthy of my contempt.

You have to remember those prophylactics are out of patent, ergo there's not a big ammount of money in using those.

Meanwhile with the vaccines the pharmaceuticals have made Billions!

I'm sure it's a "conspiracy theory" and a "Extreme right talking point"

Funny how many of those have been proven to be true in a short ammount of time no?
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #83 on: August 05, 2021, 06:22:33 PM »

It's an eyewitness statement that can be backed with hard data, but I am not at liberty to share that data and you are not cleared to receive it. So all you get is my statement...and that of many other healthcare workers that have seen similar events. But you just want to doubt them all. You have my pity too.

Oh please....spare us your fucking bullshit.

What about the healthcare workers who suggested the prophylactics a year and a half ago? 
It is truly amazing how all the 'medical experts who were dead set on denying anyone the 'right to try' are now pushing forced experimental treatments...

This was your moment in the sun. 
Was it not the world's worst healthcare situation of your professional life?
You could have stepped up and used your expertise to help stop intentional misinformation by medical bureaucrats who had significant financial conflicts of interest.
You are supposed to be an expert...isn't it part of your duty to fight back against that kind of garbage?

Instead, you kept pocketing your paycheck and repeated fucking talking points. 
Instead, You keep harassing us because we keep asking questions.
Instead, You let your TDS get in the way of whatever limited reasoning capability you have.

Then you attempt to wash your hands of it by taking the old 'Well, I never actually said anything one way or the other about...' route.


To paraphrase someone else on this board.  I don't need pity from someone that is only worthy of my contempt.
I pity you too. Try not to die from your own stupidity...or that of your herd.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #84 on: August 05, 2021, 06:25:42 PM »

It's an eyewitness statement that can be backed with hard data, but I am not at liberty to share that data and you are not cleared to receive it. So all you get is my statement...and that of many other healthcare workers that have seen similar events. But you just want to doubt them all. You have my pity too.

Oh please....spare us your fucking bullshit.

What about the healthcare workers who suggested the prophylactics a year and a half ago? 
It is truly amazing how all the 'medical experts who were dead set on denying anyone the 'right to try' are now pushing forced experimental treatments...

This was your moment in the sun. 
Was it not the world's worst healthcare situation of your professional life?
You could have stepped up and used your expertise to help stop intentional misinformation by medical bureaucrats who had significant financial conflicts of interest.
You are supposed to be an expert...isn't it part of your duty to fight back against that kind of garbage?

Instead, you kept pocketing your paycheck and repeated fucking talking points. 
Instead, You keep harassing us because we keep asking questions.
Instead, You let your TDS get in the way of whatever limited reasoning capability you have.

Then you attempt to wash your hands of it by taking the old 'Well, I never actually said anything one way or the other about...' route.


To paraphrase someone else on this board.  I don't need pity from someone that is only worthy of my contempt.

You have to remember those prophylactics are out of patent, ergo there's not a big ammount of money in using those.

Meanwhile with the vaccines the pharmaceuticals have made Billions!

I'm sure it's a "conspiracy theory" and a "Extreme right talking point"

Funny how many of those have been proven to be true in a short ammount of time no?
You talk of evidence but then claim your idiotic points have been proven true. You are a fucking ignorant shit that needs to be flushed. But considering your sad situation, you too have my pity.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #85 on: August 05, 2021, 06:34:21 PM »

It's an eyewitness statement that can be backed with hard data, but I am not at liberty to share that data and you are not cleared to receive it. So all you get is my statement...and that of many other healthcare workers that have seen similar events. But you just want to doubt them all. You have my pity too.

Oh please....spare us your fucking bullshit.

What about the healthcare workers who suggested the prophylactics a year and a half ago? 
It is truly amazing how all the 'medical experts who were dead set on denying anyone the 'right to try' are now pushing forced experimental treatments...

This was your moment in the sun. 
Was it not the world's worst healthcare situation of your professional life?
You could have stepped up and used your expertise to help stop intentional misinformation by medical bureaucrats who had significant financial conflicts of interest.
You are supposed to be an expert...isn't it part of your duty to fight back against that kind of garbage?

Instead, you kept pocketing your paycheck and repeated fucking talking points. 
Instead, You keep harassing us because we keep asking questions.
Instead, You let your TDS get in the way of whatever limited reasoning capability you have.

Then you attempt to wash your hands of it by taking the old 'Well, I never actually said anything one way or the other about...' route.


To paraphrase someone else on this board.  I don't need pity from someone that is only worthy of my contempt.

You have to remember those prophylactics are out of patent, ergo there's not a big ammount of money in using those.

Meanwhile with the vaccines the pharmaceuticals have made Billions!

I'm sure it's a "conspiracy theory" and a "Extreme right talking point"

Funny how many of those have been proven to be true in a short ammount of time no?
You talk of evidence but then claim your idiotic points have been proven true. You are a fucking ignorant shit that needs to be flushed. But considering your sad situation, you too have my pity.

Lets see my dear smoothbrain:

At least one of those demonized prophylactic treatments is now recognized it does help prevent hospitalization/death.

The Lab Leak theory?

And yes, those prophylactics are out of patent, and yes the pharmaceuticals have meda billions from their vaccines and will do yet more billions since you are supossed to have it every year.

Is there a link? Maybe, but you'll claim there isn't and then pretend you didn't IF it ever is proven there's one.

As for your insults...

For you to be able to offend me I would need to care about your opinion, I don't, you're just another NPC.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #86 on: August 05, 2021, 06:48:52 PM »

It's an eyewitness statement that can be backed with hard data, but I am not at liberty to share that data and you are not cleared to receive it. So all you get is my statement...and that of many other healthcare workers that have seen similar events. But you just want to doubt them all. You have my pity too.

Oh please....spare us your fucking bullshit.

What about the healthcare workers who suggested the prophylactics a year and a half ago? 
It is truly amazing how all the 'medical experts who were dead set on denying anyone the 'right to try' are now pushing forced experimental treatments...

This was your moment in the sun. 
Was it not the world's worst healthcare situation of your professional life?
You could have stepped up and used your expertise to help stop intentional misinformation by medical bureaucrats who had significant financial conflicts of interest.
You are supposed to be an expert...isn't it part of your duty to fight back against that kind of garbage?

Instead, you kept pocketing your paycheck and repeated fucking talking points. 
Instead, You keep harassing us because we keep asking questions.
Instead, You let your TDS get in the way of whatever limited reasoning capability you have.

Then you attempt to wash your hands of it by taking the old 'Well, I never actually said anything one way or the other about...' route.


To paraphrase someone else on this board.  I don't need pity from someone that is only worthy of my contempt.

You have to remember those prophylactics are out of patent, ergo there's not a big ammount of money in using those.

Meanwhile with the vaccines the pharmaceuticals have made Billions!

I'm sure it's a "conspiracy theory" and a "Extreme right talking point"

Funny how many of those have been proven to be true in a short ammount of time no?
You talk of evidence but then claim your idiotic points have been proven true. You are a fucking ignorant shit that needs to be flushed. But considering your sad situation, you too have my pity.

Lets see my dear smoothbrain:

At least one of those demonized prophylactic treatments is now recognized it does help prevent hospitalization/death.

The Lab Leak theory?

And yes, those prophylactics are out of patent, and yes the pharmaceuticals have meda billions from their vaccines and will do yet more billions since you are supossed to have it every year.

Is there a link? Maybe, but you'll claim there isn't and then pretend you didn't IF it ever is proven there's one.

As for your insults...

For you to be able to offend me I would need to care about your opinion, I don't, you're just another NPC.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #87 on: August 05, 2021, 07:47:57 PM »
And yes, those prophylactics are out of patent, and yes the pharmaceuticals have meda billions from their vaccines and will do yet more billions since you are supossed to have it every year.

It gets even better when you realize that, in the US, the FDA is not allowed to issue an Emergency Use Authorization if there is an approved therapeutic available...

It would have been awful if the FDA would have approved any of those prophylactics for use...I mean that means we would have to wait for full approval before using the shots.  Imagine how sad all the pharmaceutical companies would have been if they had to wait to help everyone out...  :'(

Now maybe I am misunderstanding something since I am not a health care professional...but if I am wrong, I am sure someone with expertise will step forward and tell us.

...because I wouldn't want to spread misinformation.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #88 on: August 05, 2021, 08:27:35 PM »
And yes, those prophylactics are out of patent, and yes the pharmaceuticals have meda billions from their vaccines and will do yet more billions since you are supossed to have it every year.

It gets even better when you realize that, in the US, the FDA is not allowed to issue an Emergency Use Authorization if there is an approved therapeutic available...

It would have been awful if the FDA would have approved any of those prophylactics for use...I mean that means we would have to wait for full approval before using the shots.  Imagine how sad all the pharmaceutical companies would have been if they had to wait to help everyone out...  :'(

Now maybe I am misunderstanding something since I am not a health care professional...but if I am wrong, I am sure someone with expertise will step forward and tell us.

...because I wouldn't want to spread misinformation.

The plot thickens.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #89 on: August 05, 2021, 08:39:30 PM »
Once the virus reached the US, no matter if from Dr. Evil's Fortress or from a Color Out of Space, how did the US screw up so spectacularly?

But, as I wrote, I never get a direct answer to this question - here being only an example. What I get instead are lectures from these people about the best way to tackle it. ::)


Seriously, what do you think that the US did wrong? Because in the US we had lockdowns for months, we had universal masking mandates for months.

You seem to be angry about your father dying. That's understandable and a legitimate tragedy.

I'll speak to my own experience here. (Note: Minor details changed for privacy). During the lockdowns my mother died. She has had ongoing health issues for many years but was mobile, active, and mentally sharp. Last year she suffered a fall and my family put her in a care home. At the time her prognosis was good, and she was on the road to recovery. However, Covid lockdowns came into effect and she was completely isolated in a single room and not permitted to see any other residents or visitors.

During the lockdown you could tell the extended isolation was taking a toll on her. We would talk regularly but it was apparent that her mental well being was declining without the ability to go outside, talk, or see another person face to face. When we talked she told me she kept looking forward to a certain date when she'd be allowed to see people and move around freely again.

Eventually after weeks of isolation she suffered some kind of cardiac issue that led to her being taken to the hospital. However, after a brief diagnosis she was denied ongoing hospital care due to reserving space for Covid patients. She was returned to the care home and again put into a quarantine during which no visitors or family were permitted. She died after a month of being imprisoned in a room and not being permitted to see any of her loved ones. I have no doubt that if she were actually among people who cared for her, she would be alive today.

The fact of the matter is everyone dies. We must always make choices about how we live, because we don't have a choice about dying. I am absolutely certain my mother would not have chosen to die having been isolated into a sterile room, never being allowed to talk face to face with loved ones, hold their hands, hug them, or kiss them. This type of policy is cruel and violates human dignity and respect for the individual.

While I understand the desire to protect people, I find it alarming and reckless when we take dramatic actions that are not supported with available evidence, violate decades of established medical practice, and threaten to eliminate all freedom in society.
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