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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #915 on: December 01, 2021, 07:22:33 PM »
While he was president, one could easily read Trump's Twitter feed directly, without any interpretation by the media.
From the tweets I did see Trump use, he was prone to excageration, oversimplification, and finger pointing. But I don't have a twitter and I didn't follow him.

Butwhatabout-ism won't change what is happening right now. If Trump demanded people comply with vaccines with threats, and I heard about it - you bet I would be upset about it as well.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #916 on: December 01, 2021, 08:01:56 PM »
Speaking of which, does anyone have a link for the exact quote of what Jen Psaki said about people having to pay for covid tests? I tried to search for it briefly but didn't see anything that fit.
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/reporter-who-will-pay-mandatory-weekly-covid-tests-businesses

NBC news said a lot of businesses were concerned about the costs of the tests, because it was a "costly liability". Pisaki never explicitly addressed that, but instead kept replying that the vaccines were free, which is a tacit admission the tests have a cost. She then explicitly said it would "be more cost effective to require the vaccines", with the obvious implication that the tests wouldn't be free. She also answered a question about whether it would be up to the business to choose whether to "swallow those costs" with a firm "correct".

Thanks, Pat. From that referenced, I've looked through the full briefing here:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/09/10/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-jen-psaki-september-10-2021/

That was September 10th. Since then, there has been a fact sheet on the new policies, here:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/11/04/fact-sheet-biden-administration-announces-details-of-two-major-vaccination-policies/

The latter backs you up, in that it specifies that OSHA will require tests, and "the ETS does not require employers to provide or pay for tests". At the same time, free and/or low-cost tests are widely available, and in the same September press briefing Psaki affirmed continued support of that. So while the administration is certainly looking to push more people to be vaccinated, it seems like it's more through hassle than punitive cost on the employees.

It seems the mandates have been currently blocked in court, though:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/11/30/judge-halts-bidens-covid-vaccine-mandate-for-healthcare-workers-nationwide/

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #917 on: December 01, 2021, 08:21:37 PM »
People defending Trump often did the same when he said something idiotic and others tried to hold it against him.
The difference is that he had a media establishment seething at his every breath to the point that what was idiotic, a genuine threat, and just made up lies or exagerations from the media became very difficult to tell for even a person that was meh on the man.

But yes, every side will play defense for their king, even if doing bad things out of fear of loosing the game.

While he was president, one could easily read Trump's Twitter feed directly, without any interpretation by the media. So I don't think it was difficult to distinguish media exaggerations from what he really said.

Speaking of which, does anyone have a link for the exact quote of what Jen Psaki said about people having to pay for covid tests? I tried to search for it briefly but didn't see anything that fit.

There are people to this day misquoting Trump due to media manipulation. One could have easily read Trump's twitter feed directly, until they banned him, but it looks like a lot of people don't care. He's Literally Hitler because the media said so, and that's that.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #918 on: December 01, 2021, 08:28:30 PM »
While he was president, one could easily read Trump's Twitter feed directly, without any interpretation by the media.
From the tweets I did see Trump use, he was prone to excageration, oversimplification, and finger pointing. But I don't have a twitter and I didn't follow him.

Butwhatabout-ism won't change what is happening right now. If Trump demanded people comply with vaccines with threats, and I heard about it - you bet I would be upset about it as well.

I was concerned when Trump started talking about a vaccine. It's taken them years to develop specific vaccines, and we were going to have one before the end of the year? That seemed suspicious as fuck.

I'm all for an experimental vaccine in the face of the pandemic. People can make their own decisions on risk and reward regarding how dangerous Covid is and how safe the vaccinations are. But they want to take that away from us, and use the power of the government to coerce us.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #919 on: December 01, 2021, 09:30:48 PM »
While he was president, one could easily read Trump's Twitter feed directly, without any interpretation by the media.
From the tweets I did see Trump use, he was prone to excageration, oversimplification, and finger pointing. But I don't have a twitter and I didn't follow him.

Butwhatabout-ism won't change what is happening right now. If Trump demanded people comply with vaccines with threats, and I heard about it - you bet I would be upset about it as well.

I was concerned when Trump started talking about a vaccine. It's taken them years to develop specific vaccines, and we were going to have one before the end of the year? That seemed suspicious as fuck.

I'm all for an experimental vaccine in the face of the pandemic. People can make their own decisions on risk and reward regarding how dangerous Covid is and how safe the vaccinations are. But they want to take that away from us, and use the power of the government to coerce us.

  Things like that have started revolutions in the past.  Wonder how much 'murica is still left in the tank?

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #920 on: December 01, 2021, 09:52:52 PM »
While he was president, one could easily read Trump's Twitter feed directly, without any interpretation by the media.
From the tweets I did see Trump use, he was prone to excageration, oversimplification, and finger pointing. But I don't have a twitter and I didn't follow him.

Butwhatabout-ism won't change what is happening right now. If Trump demanded people comply with vaccines with threats, and I heard about it - you bet I would be upset about it as well.

I was concerned when Trump started talking about a vaccine. It's taken them years to develop specific vaccines, and we were going to have one before the end of the year? That seemed suspicious as fuck.

I'm all for an experimental vaccine in the face of the pandemic. People can make their own decisions on risk and reward regarding how dangerous Covid is and how safe the vaccinations are. But they want to take that away from us, and use the power of the government to coerce us.

  Things like that have started revolutions in the past.  Wonder how much 'murica is still left in the tank?

Just haven't gotten to critical mass/geometry yet. It's coming.  Luckily, there are still young people like Rittenhouse or Tate Myre who are out there and there are still journalists like Project Veritas.

We *all* can do more to beat back the leftists - whether it's public ridicule if thier fucked up ideas, or escalation into a backhand across the mouth - as a starting point.  We need to expose corruption at every turn, at every level.  Whether it's exposing the political trial of Rittenhouse, reporting the shifty DNC links to BLM and antifa, revealing every elitist who fucked kids in Epstein's jet, throwing the contents of Hunter's laptop on pastebin or sending corrupt CIA and FBI leaders to federal pound you in the ass prison.

It *is* as simple as fighting fire with fire - and you don't have to look any further than Portnoy's posting of DMs from women he allegedly sexually assaulted where they clearly plan hook ups with m and then go and cry that they were abused.  Never apologize, always keep the receipts, and publicly post them at the first sign.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #921 on: December 02, 2021, 08:07:26 AM »
This is awkward, two studies confirming jabbed "immunity" is inferior to natural:



Source: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf (that's the UK's official government publication on the jabs)



Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext (The Lancet, looking at Israeli data)


Also here's some of Pfizer's test data that they've been given 55 years to release: https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

Jump to page 7 for a summary of adverse events, and pay particular note to page 12 for pregnancy.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #922 on: December 02, 2021, 02:50:04 PM »
Also awkward - so much for informed consent:

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #923 on: December 02, 2021, 03:05:37 PM »
This is awkward, two studies confirming jabbed "immunity" is inferior to natural:



Source: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf (that's the UK's official government publication on the jabs)



Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext (The Lancet, looking at Israeli data)


Also here's some of Pfizer's test data that they've been given 55 years to release: https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

Jump to page 7 for a summary of adverse events, and pay particular note to page 12 for pregnancy.

México is developing a treatment using horses to get the something from their blood to inject people with so people get better if they catch the kungflu.

Looks like my prediction was on point: You CAN'T develop a vaccine for the kungflu for the same reasons you can't develop one for the common flu, it mutates TOO fast.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #924 on: December 02, 2021, 03:07:25 PM »
Also awkward - so much for informed consent:



Ups, care to provide a link? All my family got the shots and I want to know which one of us is at more risk of this fucking shit.

We need to get Pope Fauci and his accomplices charged with crimes against humanity and then executed.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #925 on: December 02, 2021, 03:13:59 PM »
Ups, care to provide a link? All my family got the shots and I want to know which one of us is at more risk of this fucking shit.

We need to get Pope Fauci and his accomplices charged with crimes against humanity and then executed.

The guidance itself: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-information-for-healthcare-professionals/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-following-covid-19-vaccination

Essentially the younger you are, the higher your risk. Being male also increases your risk (by a lot).
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #926 on: December 02, 2021, 03:31:34 PM »
Ups, care to provide a link? All my family got the shots and I want to know which one of us is at more risk of this fucking shit.

We need to get Pope Fauci and his accomplices charged with crimes against humanity and then executed.

The guidance itself: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-information-for-healthcare-professionals/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-following-covid-19-vaccination

Essentially the younger you are, the higher your risk. Being male also increases your risk (by a lot).

So when this finally hits the news it will be another "Men droping like flies, Wahmen most affected" type of article?
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #927 on: December 02, 2021, 03:50:20 PM »
  MY guess it will be "risk is minimal", despite the fact if you just do not get the shot and are otherwise healthy, your risk is pretty much zero.  So go figure.  I do wonder what the after report in 5-10 years is going to look like.  I hope there are no long term issues, but reality is this was rolled out while making the makers immune from consequences and then more or less forcing people to take it.  So I do not have great confidence reports down the road are going to be the most transparent.

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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #928 on: December 02, 2021, 04:16:33 PM »
So when this finally hits the news it will be another "Men droping like flies, Wahmen most affected" type of article?

Already been reported, just hardly anyone is paying attention: https://www.scimex.org/newsfeed/young-men-are-the-group-most-at-risk-from-myocarditis,-especially-after-the-second-pfizer-jab

  MY guess it will be "risk is minimal", despite the fact if you just do not get the shot and are otherwise healthy, your risk is pretty much zero.  So go figure.  I do wonder what the after report in 5-10 years is going to look like.  I hope there are no long term issues, but reality is this was rolled out while making the makers immune from consequences and then more or less forcing people to take it.  So I do not have great confidence reports down the road are going to be the most transparent.

There are two streams of risk created by the jabs. Firstly, potential damage to the immune system, because they work by tricking part of your response to ignore the spike protein coating of the virus. Unfortunately, that switches off the sterilising immune system for everything else it's supposed to respond to.

Secondly, the spike proteins they make your body produce cause microscopic vascular damage, resulting in microscopic clotting. Which can eventually agglomerate into much bigger clots, see heart attacks, strokes and so on.
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Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #929 on: December 07, 2021, 10:12:58 AM »
There are two streams of risk created by the jabs. Firstly, potential damage to the immune system, because they work by tricking part of your response to ignore the spike protein coating of the virus. Unfortunately, that switches off the sterilising immune system for everything else it's supposed to respond to.

Once again you prove without a doubt you are the dumbest motherfucker on this message board. That is not, in any way shape or form, what the vaccine does. No rational human being can conclude anything close to that conclusion from any scientific evidence regarding the vaccines. And you will once again link to no scientific evidence whatsoever to support that absurd claim you just made. You will just blather on claiming it's fact when it's totally false, and repeat it later again and again as if it's true despite having zero basis in reality. What a fool you are.