Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[Zelen]

We have a year of experience with lockdowns, and it demonstrates quite well that universal lockdowns don't work and cause massive downstream problems. Every politician or bureaucrat promoting them should be to be publicly quartered.

[dkabq]

St. Fauci's pronouncement on vaccination frequency:
https://youtu.be/6P_S8WnnOhI?t=156

You're all going to love getting a covid vaccine every 6 to 12 months for the rest of your lives.

And on vaccinating children:
https://youtu.be/6P_S8WnnOhI?t=272

Why?!? In the US, as of 2021-11-17, there have been 605 covid deaths to those 0-17 years. Putting your kid in a car is more dangerous that covid.

And on Thanksgiving:
https://youtu.be/krnEWyZGM_Q?t=368

If being vaccinated is sufficient, then why the fuck am I forced to wear a mask.

[Kiero]

We're on our third jab in 11 months in the UK, every 6-12 months is insufficient. It's more like every 4-6 months - look at Israel.

[Mistwell]

I've already refused the vax. I have natural immunity.

If they imprison me, they will only make me more powerful than they can know.

(in truth my team handles all the medical and financial data of our regions primary medical research facility which includes Covid. If any of us go to jail over this - people will definitely die, since we supply day-to-day needs of surgeons, doctors and clinical staff.)

But I'm in TX, thankfully our Governor is flipping the finger at Biden. My facility is the largest medical research hospital in Dallas and we're bursting at the seams with (as of 11:38PM tonight) NINE whole cases of Covid in our multi-thousand beds across six hospitals. 7 are non-ICU.

Our nineteen thousand clinical staff that deals directly with Covid patients in research and care, have totaled only 30 cases in the last month and a half. There are ZERO people scheduled for testing tomorrow - in a city of well over a million people, at a centrally located super-facility.

The fear-mongering by people on the left on behalf of the authoritarians is more scary than Covid itself.

I am pretty frustrated that natural immunity has become some stupid political football as opposed to important data that can be used to help reduce the spread of this disease, reduce infections, hospitalizations, ICU use, and deaths. It's as important or more important than confirming someone has been partially or fully vaccinated or boosted. But we seem to be ignoring it in many areas of data collection.

[3catcircus]

I've already refused the vax. I have natural immunity.

If they imprison me, they will only make me more powerful than they can know.

(in truth my team handles all the medical and financial data of our regions primary medical research facility which includes Covid. If any of us go to jail over this - people will definitely die, since we supply day-to-day needs of surgeons, doctors and clinical staff.)

But I'm in TX, thankfully our Governor is flipping the finger at Biden. My facility is the largest medical research hospital in Dallas and we're bursting at the seams with (as of 11:38PM tonight) NINE whole cases of Covid in our multi-thousand beds across six hospitals. 7 are non-ICU.

Our nineteen thousand clinical staff that deals directly with Covid patients in research and care, have totaled only 30 cases in the last month and a half. There are ZERO people scheduled for testing tomorrow - in a city of well over a million people, at a centrally located super-facility.

The fear-mongering by people on the left on behalf of the authoritarians is more scary than Covid itself.

I am pretty frustrated that natural immunity has become some stupid political football as opposed to important data that can be used to help reduce the spread of this disease, reduce infections, hospitalizations, ICU use, and deaths. It's as important or more important than confirming someone has been partially or fully vaccinated or boosted. But we seem to be ignoring it in many areas of data collection.

Because there is no money to be made in natural immunity.  Natural immunity is *better* than being vaccinated because the body is exposed to *all* of the COVID proteins and can mount a defense in the future even as the spike proteins mutate, rendering vaccines ineffective.  Of course, there are a few vaccines being trialed that don't just rely on spike proteins in an mRNA delivery vehicle - but they have been backburnered.

[Kiero]

I am pretty frustrated that natural immunity has become some stupid political football as opposed to important data that can be used to help reduce the spread of this disease, reduce infections, hospitalizations, ICU use, and deaths. It's as important or more important than confirming someone has been partially or fully vaccinated or boosted. But we seem to be ignoring it in many areas of data collection.

I guess you missed the "redefinition" of herd immunity last year to remove natural immunity. That only comes from vaccines now, comrade.



Of course we also redefined "vaccine" to include useless therapeutic treatments that don't even provide genuine immunity. But keep jabbing!

[Ghostmaker]

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/australian-army-begins-transferring-covid-positive-cases-contacts-quarantine-camps

"Oh no, there won't be any camps."

I am shocked. Shocked. Well, not that shocked.

[Kiero]

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/australian-army-begins-transferring-covid-positive-cases-contacts-quarantine-camps

"Oh no, there won't be any camps."

I am shocked. Shocked. Well, not that shocked.

Forced vaccination of aborigines in the Northern Territories, as well.

[Kiero]

One year of covid jabs compared to 53 years of flu jabs:



This is normal...

The flu jab may be pointless, but at least it's relatively harmless. The same can't be said of the clotshot.

[Mistwell]

Remember, Vaccines make it worse...right?

[dkabq]

Interesting...

The data set looks to have two different subsets (>75% vaccinated and =< 75% vaccinated). And I think that the latter subset consists of the poorer EU countries. Makes me wonder what other predictor variables (per capita income, median number of comorbidities, median age, etc.) ought to be accounted for.

To put the numbers in perspective, in the US ~34K/yr people die of the flu (average of the estimates for the past 10 years) . With a population of ~330M, that works out to an annual ~103 deaths/M. Divide that by 26 (approx. number of 14-day periods in a year) and you get a 14-day average of 3.9 deaths/M. However, flu season is notionally only in "cold months"; let's assume that it is ~6 months (1/2 year). That puts the 14-day average at 7.8 deaths/M.

For the >75% vaccinated countries, the average of the 14-day average is 10.6 deaths/M, with a median of 9.5 deaths/M.

For the =< 75% vaccinated countries the average of the 14-day average is 127 deaths/M, with a median of 75 deaths/M.

Also, in the US, the average annual number of deaths in automobile accidents is ~35K/yr.

Let me know if you find a conceptual or math error.

[dkabq]

WHO says fully vaccinated should wear masks and physically distance as Covid infections surge:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/24/who-tells-fully-vaccinated-to-wear-masks-physically-distance-as-infections-surge.html

Is there a vaccine that is more crap-tastic than the covid vaccine? Doesn't stop you from catching or spreading the virus and you have to get a booster shot every six months.

[Ghostmaker]

Oh dear.

https://www.wsmv.com/news/health/vanderbilt-researchers-study-ivermectin-as-possible-covid-19-treatment/article_9a2e5bea-4d79-11ec-b4be-a3da0ade9ff3.html

Horse dewormer, huh?

[Trinculoisdead]

  Imagine taking horse paste, HAHAHA

[Mistwell]

Oh dear.

https://www.wsmv.com/news/health/vanderbilt-researchers-study-ivermectin-as-possible-covid-19-treatment/article_9a2e5bea-4d79-11ec-b4be-a3da0ade9ff3.html

Horse dewormer, huh?

That "horse dewormer" claim was always infuriating. Motherfuckers, that is a nobel prize winning HUMAN medication which the entire medical community has praised for many years. If some idiots took an animal version, that isn't an indictment of the human version which most people were taking.