Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[KingCheops]

Not to engage in whataboutism but Latvia is even scarier than Austria/Germany.  Duly elected politicians are being barred from participating in their "democracy" if they aren't vaccinated.

I always thought that Doctor Doom was firm but fair in ruling his "democracy"

Hey the trains ran on time in Latveria assuming those a-holes in the Fantastic Four or the Avengers weren't running roughshod through the country.

[KingCheops]

My facility has officially put notice to all of its employees we have until Dec. 8th to get vaccinated. January 4th to be fully vaccinated (so I assume boosters +?)

I just got out of my meeting with my VP and Director - and let them know as someone with natural immunity, I refuse.

So...

We'll see what happens.

(edit: I'm not sure how this squares with our Texas executive orders which says such mandates are illegal - but given our facility is a State run facility - I'm feeling I'm on safe ground. And I fully plan on looking for philosophical and religious exemptions etc.)

Since when did they have the power to arbitrarily and unilaterally rewrite your contract of employment?

No idea. But then since when did the President have the power to unilaterally mandate medical procedures to the citizenry? Apparently it seems to be a thing.

I have no idea where this is going.

Check out Austria for starters.

Not to engage in whataboutism but Latvia is even scarier than Austria/Germany.  Duly elected politicians are being barred from participating in their "democracy" if they aren't vaccinated.

Sounds like Canada.

Canada is far scarier.  We aren't as draconian as some places but when the gloves finally come off we'll skip all these intermediate steps and go straight to the Bill Gates AI Overlord brain in a jar.  "Oh shit we're running behind in Building Back Better eh!  Let's just skip the slow roll-back of rights and human dignity and plug everyone straight into the Metaverse immediately you hosers!"

[Kiero]

100% of Gibraltar's adult population is double-jabbed. They've had mask mandates for over a year. They're entering another lockdown, because neither of those measures do a fucking thing.

Or more accurately, the jabs cause the outbreaks. Vaccines cause variants, which is precisely what plenty of immunologists warned last year.

[Kiero]

Czech Republic and Italy now rumoured to be considering lockdowns only for the unjabbed.

[dkabq]

So does this settle the issue of the lack of efficacy of the covid vaccine with respect to transmission?
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/christmas-cancelled-in-worlds-most-vaxxed-place-after-exponential-rise-in-covid-cases/ar-AAQQ57t

[Kiero]

All-cause mortality increased by 23.5% in the jabbed, compared to the unjabbed: https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/317091

Does that show that it's working? I'm sure we can get to the bottom of all of this when Pfizer releases all it's trial data - oh no, they don't have to do that until 2076.

I note it didn't take Austria long to move from "nudge" to outright tyranny. Not content with locking down the unjabbed to coerce them into getting jabbed (they've since decided to just lock everyone down), they're now making jabs mandatory from February 2022. See the direction of travel.

I note all our jab-boosters have been conspicuously absent lately. Too many "conspiracy theories" proving to be fact for your liking?

[Zelen]

I note all our jab-boosters have been conspicuously absent lately. Too many "conspiracy theories" proving to be fact for your liking?

You're expecting too much. Once you've talked yourself into a position where your self-identity is wrapped up in the injections, you're a collaborator and will gladly be loading up train carts.

[HappyDaze]

So does this settle the issue of the lack of efficacy of the covid vaccine with respect to transmission?
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/christmas-cancelled-in-worlds-most-vaxxed-place-after-exponential-rise-in-covid-cases/ar-AAQQ57t

It demonstrates waning immunity, not lack of efficacy.

[Kiero]

It demonstrates waning immunity, not lack of efficacy.

The jabs don't stop you getting the virus, there was never any "immunity" in the first place.

[3catcircus]

So does this settle the issue of the lack of efficacy of the covid vaccine with respect to transmission?
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/christmas-cancelled-in-worlds-most-vaxxed-place-after-exponential-rise-in-covid-cases/ar-AAQQ57t

It demonstrates waning immunity, not lack of efficacy.

Actually, it's both.  We have no idea how efficacious they are because we have no long term data.  For comparison, the annual flu vaccines are, on average, 40% efficacious, with the highest efficacy in the last 10 years being ~ 60%.

So - we have a vaccine with unknown efficacy that provides immunity that wanes within 6 months.    This was never about preventing the spread of COVID - it's always been health theater to an extent mixed with a reduction in the seriousness of symptoms.  It's essentially Theraflu for COVID.

Given that many virologists warned of the likelihood of such a rapid deployment of a non-sterilizing vaccine causing variants, we're never going to get out of this mess unless we cease trying to vaccinate everyone every 6 months.  Let nature run it's course.

[Kiero]

Given that many virologists warned of the likelihood of such a rapid deployment of a non-sterilizing vaccine causing variants, we're never going to get out of this mess unless we cease trying to vaccinate everyone every 6 months.  Let nature run it's course.

No profit in that option, nor does it allow the authoritarians to impose a Chinese-style Social Credit system, so it's a non-starter.

[Zelen]

The statistical data was always manipulated to maximize the "Vaccine Efficacy" metric, irrespective of actual real world effectiveness. Real world effectiveness was probably never north of 60%, but it's very easy to manipulate the statistics to achieve big headline numbers.

What we're seeing globally is that even the real-world 60% figure is failing. Vaccine effectiveness against infection is negative for those who are longer than 6 months out, and the effectiveness against severe outcome is dropping in the same way, just 2-3 months behind.

[Kiero]

Now the Czech Republic has a "lockdown only for the unjabbed" to coerce them into getting jabbed. Almost as though these activities are co-ordinated...

[3catcircus]

Now the Czech Republic has a "lockdown only for the unjabbed" to coerce them into getting jabbed. Almost as though these activities are co-ordinated...

It'll turn into a lockdown for everyone - they're a few days behind Austria.

[Kiero]

It'll turn into a lockdown for everyone - they're a few days behind Austria.

Possibly, but in the space of 24 hours they've gone from "considering" it to imposing it.

Meanwhile in Rotterdam, anti-lockdown protests have turned violent. Perhaps people are waking up to this shit and where it's going.