This is a site for discussing roleplaying games. Have fun doing so, but there is one major rule: do not discuss political issues that aren't directly and uniquely related to the subject of the thread and about gaming. While this site is dedicated to free speech, the following will not be tolerated: devolving a thread into unrelated political discussion, sockpuppeting (using multiple and/or bogus accounts), disrupting topics without contributing to them, and posting images that could get someone fired in the workplace (an external link is OK, but clearly mark it as Not Safe For Work, or NSFW). If you receive a warning, please take it seriously and either move on to another topic or steer the discussion back to its original RPG-related theme.
NOTICE: Some online security services are reporting that information for a limited number of users from this site is for sale on the "dark web." As of right now, there is no direct evidence of this, but change your password just to be safe.
The RPGPundit's Own Forum Rules
This part of the site is controlled by the RPGPundit. This is where he discusses topics that he finds interesting. You may post here, but understand that there are limits. The RPGPundit can shut down any thread, topic of discussion, or user in a thread at his pleasure. This part of the site is essentially his house, so keep that in mind. Note that this is the only part of the site where political discussion is permitted, but is regulated by the RPGPundit.

Author Topic: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!  (Read 32094 times)

KingCheops

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 1221
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #780 on: November 17, 2021, 10:59:21 PM »
Not to engage in whataboutism but Latvia is even scarier than Austria/Germany.  Duly elected politicians are being barred from participating in their "democracy" if they aren't vaccinated.

I always thought that Doctor Doom was firm but fair in ruling his "democracy"

Hey the trains ran on time in Latveria assuming those a-holes in the Fantastic Four or the Avengers weren't running roughshod through the country.

KingCheops

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 1221
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #781 on: November 17, 2021, 10:59:47 PM »
My facility has officially put notice to all of its employees we have until Dec. 8th to get vaccinated. January 4th to be fully vaccinated (so I assume boosters +?)

I just got out of my meeting with my VP and Director - and let them know as someone with natural immunity, I refuse.

So...

We'll see what happens.

(edit: I'm not sure how this squares with our Texas executive orders which says such mandates are illegal - but given our facility is a State run facility - I'm feeling I'm on safe ground. And I fully plan on looking for philosophical and religious exemptions etc.)

Since when did they have the power to arbitrarily and unilaterally rewrite your contract of employment?

No idea. But then since when did the President have the power to unilaterally mandate medical procedures to the citizenry? Apparently it seems to be a thing.

I have no idea where this is going.
Check out Austria for starters.

Not to engage in whataboutism but Latvia is even scarier than Austria/Germany.  Duly elected politicians are being barred from participating in their "democracy" if they aren't vaccinated.

Sounds like Canada.

Canada is far scarier.  We aren't as draconian as some places but when the gloves finally come off we'll skip all these intermediate steps and go straight to the Bill Gates AI Overlord brain in a jar.  "Oh shit we're running behind in Building Back Better eh!  Let's just skip the slow roll-back of rights and human dignity and plug everyone straight into the Metaverse immediately you hosers!"

Kiero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 2419
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #782 on: November 18, 2021, 04:13:30 PM »
100% of Gibraltar's adult population is double-jabbed. They've had mask mandates for over a year. They're entering another lockdown, because neither of those measures do a fucking thing.

Or more accurately, the jabs cause the outbreaks. Vaccines cause variants, which is precisely what plenty of immunologists warned last year.
Currently running: Tyche's Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Kiero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 2419
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #783 on: November 18, 2021, 06:45:29 PM »
Czech Republic and Italy now rumoured to be considering lockdowns only for the unjabbed.
Currently running: Tyche's Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

dkabq

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 278
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #784 on: November 19, 2021, 06:25:45 AM »
So does this settle the issue of the lack of efficacy of the covid vaccine with respect to transmission?
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/christmas-cancelled-in-worlds-most-vaxxed-place-after-exponential-rise-in-covid-cases/ar-AAQQ57t


Kiero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 2419
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #785 on: November 19, 2021, 06:29:46 AM »
All-cause mortality increased by 23.5% in the jabbed, compared to the unjabbed: https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/317091

Does that show that it's working? I'm sure we can get to the bottom of all of this when Pfizer releases all it's trial data - oh no, they don't have to do that until 2076.

I note it didn't take Austria long to move from "nudge" to outright tyranny. Not content with locking down the unjabbed to coerce them into getting jabbed (they've since decided to just lock everyone down), they're now making jabs mandatory from February 2022. See the direction of travel.

I note all our jab-boosters have been conspicuously absent lately. Too many "conspiracy theories" proving to be fact for your liking?
« Last Edit: November 19, 2021, 06:33:13 AM by Kiero »
Currently running: Tyche's Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Zelen

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 400
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #786 on: November 19, 2021, 09:29:53 AM »
I note all our jab-boosters have been conspicuously absent lately. Too many "conspiracy theories" proving to be fact for your liking?

You're expecting too much. Once you've talked yourself into a position where your self-identity is wrapped up in the injections, you're a collaborator and will gladly be loading up train carts.

HappyDaze

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • H
  • Posts: 4374
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #787 on: November 19, 2021, 10:03:02 AM »
So does this settle the issue of the lack of efficacy of the covid vaccine with respect to transmission?
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/christmas-cancelled-in-worlds-most-vaxxed-place-after-exponential-rise-in-covid-cases/ar-AAQQ57t
It demonstrates waning immunity, not lack of efficacy.

Kiero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 2419
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #788 on: November 19, 2021, 10:29:31 AM »
It demonstrates waning immunity, not lack of efficacy.

The jabs don't stop you getting the virus, there was never any "immunity" in the first place.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2021, 10:50:42 AM by Kiero »
Currently running: Tyche's Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

3catcircus

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • ?
  • Posts: 150
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #789 on: November 19, 2021, 10:43:45 AM »
So does this settle the issue of the lack of efficacy of the covid vaccine with respect to transmission?
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/christmas-cancelled-in-worlds-most-vaxxed-place-after-exponential-rise-in-covid-cases/ar-AAQQ57t
It demonstrates waning immunity, not lack of efficacy.

Actually, it's both.  We have no idea how efficacious they are because we have no long term data.  For comparison, the annual flu vaccines are, on average, 40% efficacious, with the highest efficacy in the last 10 years being ~ 60%.

So - we have a vaccine with unknown efficacy that provides immunity that wanes within 6 months.    This was never about preventing the spread of COVID - it's always been health theater to an extent mixed with a reduction in the seriousness of symptoms.  It's essentially Theraflu for COVID.

Given that many virologists warned of the likelihood of such a rapid deployment of a non-sterilizing vaccine causing variants, we're never going to get out of this mess unless we cease trying to vaccinate everyone every 6 months.  Let nature run it's course.

Kiero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 2419
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #790 on: November 19, 2021, 10:51:18 AM »
Given that many virologists warned of the likelihood of such a rapid deployment of a non-sterilizing vaccine causing variants, we're never going to get out of this mess unless we cease trying to vaccinate everyone every 6 months.  Let nature run it's course.

No profit in that option, nor does it allow the authoritarians to impose a Chinese-style Social Credit system, so it's a non-starter.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2021, 10:53:01 AM by Kiero »
Currently running: Tyche's Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Zelen

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 400
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #791 on: November 19, 2021, 11:05:18 AM »
The statistical data was always manipulated to maximize the "Vaccine Efficacy" metric, irrespective of actual real world effectiveness. Real world effectiveness was probably never north of 60%, but it's very easy to manipulate the statistics to achieve big headline numbers.

What we're seeing globally is that even the real-world 60% figure is failing. Vaccine effectiveness against infection is negative for those who are longer than 6 months out, and the effectiveness against severe outcome is dropping in the same way, just 2-3 months behind.

Kiero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 2419
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #792 on: November 19, 2021, 05:54:21 PM »
Now the Czech Republic has a "lockdown only for the unjabbed" to coerce them into getting jabbed. Almost as though these activities are co-ordinated...
Currently running: Tyche's Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

3catcircus

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • ?
  • Posts: 150
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #793 on: November 19, 2021, 06:10:52 PM »
Now the Czech Republic has a "lockdown only for the unjabbed" to coerce them into getting jabbed. Almost as though these activities are co-ordinated...

It'll turn into a lockdown for everyone - they're a few days behind Austria.

Kiero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 2419
Re: Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!
« Reply #794 on: November 19, 2021, 06:23:14 PM »
It'll turn into a lockdown for everyone - they're a few days behind Austria.

Possibly, but in the space of 24 hours they've gone from "considering" it to imposing it.

Meanwhile in Rotterdam, anti-lockdown protests have turned violent. Perhaps people are waking up to this shit and where it's going.
Currently running: Tyche's Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.