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tenbones:
I've already refused the vax. I have natural immunity.

If they imprison me, they will only make me more powerful than they can know.

(in truth my team handles all the medical and financial data of our regions primary medical research facility which includes Covid. If any of us go to jail over this - people will definitely die, since we supply day-to-day needs of surgeons, doctors and clinical staff.)

But I'm in TX, thankfully our Governor is flipping the finger at Biden. My facility is the largest medical research hospital in Dallas and we're bursting at the seams with (as of 11:38PM tonight) NINE whole cases of Covid in our multi-thousand beds across six hospitals. 7 are non-ICU.

Our nineteen thousand clinical staff that deals directly with Covid patients in research and care, have totaled only 30 cases in the last month and a half. There are ZERO people scheduled for testing tomorrow - in a city of well over a million people, at a centrally located super-facility.

The fear-mongering by people on the left on behalf of the authoritarians is more scary than Covid itself.

3catcircus:

--- Quote from: tenbones on November 06, 2021, 12:43:24 AM ---I've already refused the vax. I have natural immunity.

If they imprison me, they will only make me more powerful than they can know.

(in truth my team handles all the medical and financial data of our regions primary medical research facility which includes Covid. If any of us go to jail over this - people will definitely die, since we supply day-to-day needs of surgeons, doctors and clinical staff.)

But I'm in TX, thankfully our Governor is flipping the finger at Biden. My facility is the largest medical research hospital in Dallas and we're bursting at the seams with (as of 11:38PM tonight) NINE whole cases of Covid in our multi-thousand beds across six hospitals. 7 are non-ICU.

Our nineteen thousand clinical staff that deals directly with Covid patients in research and care, have totaled only 30 cases in the last month and a half. There are ZERO people scheduled for testing tomorrow - in a city of well over a million people, at a centrally located super-facility.

The fear-mongering by people on the left on behalf of the authoritarians is more scary than Covid itself.

--- End quote ---

We've gotten to this point because we elected the stupid and immoral to run our governments, hired the mediocre to be the day-to-day government bureaucrats, and accepted the incompetent to advise them.  What else could we have expected when those in positions of authority are relying upon expert advice from scientific bureaucrats who've never been involved in stopping actual epidemics, backed up by academics whose models have never been correct?

Additionally, none of them understand instinctual human behavior which will have people self segregate when dealing with everyone around them getting sick - without mandates of any kind.  It also doesn't help that humans have a terrible ability to assess risk except to themselves.

I'm 50, fat, and have high blood pressure.  For me, getting vaxed was a more acceptable risk than getting covid.  I still got covid. I still had to have monoclonal antibodies.  As did my wife.  Both of our kids also got covid at the same time as us but were unvaxed.  They're healthy teen athletes with excellent cardiovascular health.  Their symptoms were congestion and a slight fever for a day or 2.

I don't need a bureaucrat telling me my kids need a vaccine when they obviously didn't.

dkabq:

--- Quote from: 3catcircus on November 06, 2021, 10:14:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: tenbones on November 06, 2021, 12:43:24 AM ---I've already refused the vax. I have natural immunity.

If they imprison me, they will only make me more powerful than they can know.

(in truth my team handles all the medical and financial data of our regions primary medical research facility which includes Covid. If any of us go to jail over this - people will definitely die, since we supply day-to-day needs of surgeons, doctors and clinical staff.)

But I'm in TX, thankfully our Governor is flipping the finger at Biden. My facility is the largest medical research hospital in Dallas and we're bursting at the seams with (as of 11:38PM tonight) NINE whole cases of Covid in our multi-thousand beds across six hospitals. 7 are non-ICU.

Our nineteen thousand clinical staff that deals directly with Covid patients in research and care, have totaled only 30 cases in the last month and a half. There are ZERO people scheduled for testing tomorrow - in a city of well over a million people, at a centrally located super-facility.

The fear-mongering by people on the left on behalf of the authoritarians is more scary than Covid itself.

--- End quote ---

We've gotten to this point because we elected the stupid and immoral to run our governments, hired the mediocre to be the day-to-day government bureaucrats, and accepted the incompetent to advise them.  What else could we have expected when those in positions of authority are relying upon expert advice from scientific bureaucrats who've never been involved in stopping actual epidemics, backed up by academics whose models have never been correct?

Additionally, none of them understand instinctual human behavior which will have people self segregate when dealing with everyone around them getting sick - without mandates of any kind.  It also doesn't help that humans have a terrible ability to assess risk except to themselves.

I'm 50, fat, and have high blood pressure.  For me, getting vaxed was a more acceptable risk than getting covid.  I still got covid. I still had to have monoclonal antibodies.  As did my wife.  Both of our kids also got covid at the same time as us but were unvaxed.  They're healthy teen athletes with excellent cardiovascular health.  Their symptoms were congestion and a slight fever for a day or 2.

I don't need a bureaucrat telling me my kids need a vaccine when they obviously didn't.

--- End quote ---

<snark>
But your unvaccinated kids are literally killing grannies.
</snark>

3catcircus:

--- Quote from: dkabq on November 06, 2021, 10:18:31 AM ---
--- Quote from: 3catcircus on November 06, 2021, 10:14:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: tenbones on November 06, 2021, 12:43:24 AM ---I've already refused the vax. I have natural immunity.

If they imprison me, they will only make me more powerful than they can know.

(in truth my team handles all the medical and financial data of our regions primary medical research facility which includes Covid. If any of us go to jail over this - people will definitely die, since we supply day-to-day needs of surgeons, doctors and clinical staff.)

But I'm in TX, thankfully our Governor is flipping the finger at Biden. My facility is the largest medical research hospital in Dallas and we're bursting at the seams with (as of 11:38PM tonight) NINE whole cases of Covid in our multi-thousand beds across six hospitals. 7 are non-ICU.

Our nineteen thousand clinical staff that deals directly with Covid patients in research and care, have totaled only 30 cases in the last month and a half. There are ZERO people scheduled for testing tomorrow - in a city of well over a million people, at a centrally located super-facility.

The fear-mongering by people on the left on behalf of the authoritarians is more scary than Covid itself.

--- End quote ---

We've gotten to this point because we elected the stupid and immoral to run our governments, hired the mediocre to be the day-to-day government bureaucrats, and accepted the incompetent to advise them.  What else could we have expected when those in positions of authority are relying upon expert advice from scientific bureaucrats who've never been involved in stopping actual epidemics, backed up by academics whose models have never been correct?

Additionally, none of them understand instinctual human behavior which will have people self segregate when dealing with everyone around them getting sick - without mandates of any kind.  It also doesn't help that humans have a terrible ability to assess risk except to themselves.

I'm 50, fat, and have high blood pressure.  For me, getting vaxed was a more acceptable risk than getting covid.  I still got covid. I still had to have monoclonal antibodies.  As did my wife.  Both of our kids also got covid at the same time as us but were unvaxed.  They're healthy teen athletes with excellent cardiovascular health.  Their symptoms were congestion and a slight fever for a day or 2.

I don't need a bureaucrat telling me my kids need a vaccine when they obviously didn't.

--- End quote ---

<snark>
But your unvaccinated kids are literally killing grannies.
</snark>

--- End quote ---

Which goes back to the basic observation that "the experts" refuse to address - if granny is vaccinated, why do you care if grandkids are unvaccinated?  Oh, you mean it doesn't *actually* 100% prevent everyone who is vaccinated from being infected and developing symptoms?!?!  Why weren't you vocal about it for flu, measles, or pertussis which also aren't 100%?!?!  Or did you mean that COVID vax are like vaccines used by vets that are non-sterilizing (like the kennel cough vax our dog gets and she can't go to doggie camp for 2 weeks afterwards so she doesn't infect there other dogs)...

Wntrlnd:

--- Quote from: tenbones on November 06, 2021, 12:43:24 AM ---I've already refused the vax. I have natural immunity.

If they imprison me, they will only make me more powerful than they can know.

(in truth my team handles all the medical and financial data of our regions primary medical research facility which includes Covid. If any of us go to jail over this - people will definitely die, since we supply day-to-day needs of surgeons, doctors and clinical staff.)

But I'm in TX, thankfully our Governor is flipping the finger at Biden. My facility is the largest medical research hospital in Dallas and we're bursting at the seams with (as of 11:38PM tonight) NINE whole cases of Covid in our multi-thousand beds across six hospitals. 7 are non-ICU.

Our nineteen thousand clinical staff that deals directly with Covid patients in research and care, have totaled only 30 cases in the last month and a half. There are ZERO people scheduled for testing tomorrow - in a city of well over a million people, at a centrally located super-facility.

The fear-mongering by people on the left on behalf of the authoritarians is more scary than Covid itself.

--- End quote ---

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-do-vaccines-protect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity#The-study-method

I can save you the click and having read it I can say: They do.

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