Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[Kiero]

I would have thought that Kiero meant he had it once each in calendar years 2020, 2021, and now in 2022. Is that right, Kiero? Unless you're claiming that you had it in 2019, though, I don't think that's relevant. It's been around 26 months or so, which is closer to two years than three - but by calendar years it's possible.

I've had it in December 2019, January 2021, January 2022. It was leaked from the Wuhan lab at some point in 2019 and the Chinese authorities tried to cover it up. It was in Italy in October 2019 and the UK a few weeks after that.

The first bout made me ill for two weeks, the longest a respiratory infection has bothered me for a while. A hypochondriac of my acquaintance was ill for two months, much of it bedridden around the same time.

Being a breakthrough case and how it kicked me around, I am glad I did get my jab and booster. I am 100% certain that I did not want to be unvaxxed through that.

I've been unjabbed throughout and I've been fine. I'm 100% certain that I didn't want to risk immunological or cardiovascular adverse events for the sniffles.

[TNMalt]

Only side affects I experienced from both the vaccine and booster was similar to the flu shot

[Kiero]

Only side affects I experienced from both the vaccine and booster was similar to the flu shot

That you know of right now. It's been what, a few months?

mRNA jabs are nothing like the flu jab.

[Reckall]

I would have thought that Kiero meant he had it once each in calendar years 2020, 2021, and now in 2022. Is that right, Kiero? Unless you're claiming that you had it in 2019, though, I don't think that's relevant. It's been around 26 months or so, which is closer to two years than three - but by calendar years it's possible.

I've had it in December 2019, January 2021, January 2022.

People, Kiero just admitted that he had Covid while posting on this very thread (which may explain some of his erratic "thinking"). Don't panic, scan your computers for viruses, don't use them for seven days and warn posters on other forums you frequent!

[DocJones]

Only side affects I experienced from both the vaccine and booster was similar to the flu shot

That you know of right now. It's been what, a few months?

mRNA jabs are nothing like the flu jab.

Once those nanobots finish assembling that 5G interface he'll be sorry.

[TNMalt]

I'm still pissed I hadn't gotten my mutant powers yet.

[TNMalt]

And I want my nanobot built 5G network. Will save me on upgrading my smartphone.

[Eirikrautha]

Being a breakthrough case and how it kicked me around, I am glad I did get my jab and booster. I am 100% certain that I did not want to be unvaxxed through that.

Yep.  It's the same reason I bought my Tiger Repelllent Necklace.  I haven't seen a Tiger in my neighborhood once!

Or, maybe, no one has any idea how you would have reacted without a jab, since the efficacy of the vaccine is based on statistical data and not a comparison to multiple infections (in the same person, one time with and one time without)?  The level of faith involved here is staggering...

[Reckall]

Being a breakthrough case and how it kicked me around, I am glad I did get my jab and booster. I am 100% certain that I did not want to be unvaxxed through that.

Yep.  It's the same reason I bought my Tiger Repelllent Necklace.  I haven't seen a Tiger in my neighborhood once!

Or, maybe, no one has any idea how you would have reacted without a jab, since the efficacy of the vaccine is based on statistical data and not a comparison to multiple infections (in the same person, one time with and one time without)?  The level of faith involved here is staggering...

You know where another level of faith is staggering? Among no-vaxxers who, once they find themselves (or a relative) with a ventilator up in the ass, immediately ask for prayers. Usually these appeals go to "Prayer Warriors" (which would be a great Prestige Class for D&D, admittedly). People who derided the idea that vaccines could have been developed in one year are now the first in line to ask God for "a miracle". These stories almost inevitably end up with the Covided person "being now one with God", or Jesus, or the angels (thus bringing Covid up there to more unvaxxed, I guess, since no no-vaxxer would have faith in pro-vaxxers).

Yup, faith is a bitch.

[dkabq]

Being a breakthrough case and how it kicked me around, I am glad I did get my jab and booster. I am 100% certain that I did not want to be unvaxxed through that.

Yep.  It's the same reason I bought my Tiger Repelllent Necklace.  I haven't seen a Tiger in my neighborhood once!

Or, maybe, no one has any idea how you would have reacted without a jab, since the efficacy of the vaccine is based on statistical data and not a comparison to multiple infections (in the same person, one time with and one time without)?  The level of faith involved here is staggering...

You know where another level of faith is staggering? Among no-vaxxers who, once they find themselves (or a relative) with a ventilator up in the ass, immediately ask for prayers. Usually these appeals go to "Prayer Warriors" (which would be a great Prestige Class for D&D, admittedly). People who derided the idea that vaccines could have been developed in one year are now the first in line to ask God for "a miracle". These stories almost inevitably end up with the Covided person "being now one with God", or Jesus, or the angels (thus bringing Covid up there to more unvaxxed, I guess, since no no-vaxxer would have faith in pro-vaxxers).

Yup, faith is a bitch.

I imagine the same is true for people of faith that got vaccinated.

As for the people that derided the idea that vaccines could be developed in a year, many of those are the same people that said they would not take "Trump's vaccine" and yet are now pushing vaccine mandates.

And to go back to your initial point of "faith", what about faith in masks other than N-95s? It's like a fucking cargo cult. Or the faith in the vaccine with respect to masks ("Vax or Mask"), herd immunity (anyone know what percentage St. Fauci is now touting), or preventing transmission (Gibraltar at 100+% vaccinated illustrated that falsehood).

What's left is that the vaccine reduces symptoms such that hospitalizations and deaths are reduced, assuming you get boosted every six months.

So make your decision and let others make theirs. Just like we allow people to make the choice to become obese, not treat their diabetes or hypertension, not exercise, be a drug addict, etc., if someone does not want to take the vaccine and subsequently dies from covid, I would no more mock them than I would someone who dies from complications due to their untreated diabetes. Btw, that litany of woes is pretty much the nominal patient at the rehab hospital my wife works at.

[Reckall]

So make your decision and let others make theirs. Just like we allow people to make the choice to become obese, not treat their diabetes or hypertension, not exercise, be a drug addict, etc.

First time I hear that these are transmissible diseases but - hey! - this is the internet...

[dkabq]

So make your decision and let others make theirs. Just like we allow people to make the choice to become obese, not treat their diabetes or hypertension, not exercise, be a drug addict, etc.

First time I hear that these are transmissible diseases but - hey! - this is the internet...

Nope; they are not. And if the vaccines prevented catching covid or transmitting covid, you'd have a point. But as they don't, someone else being vaccinated has no impact on whether you are going to catch covid from them. Hence, someone not getting vaccinated and catching covid (and dying) impacts you no differently than someone who got vaccinated and caught covid (and died) or someone who leaves their diabetes untreated (and died).

[TNMalt]

Depends. That person that didn't get vaxxed takes up an ICU bed that another patient could use. And I still don't get the resistance to the covid vaccines. Most of the people not getting it dod get the mmr and polio for example.

[Reckall]

Depends. That person that didn't get vaxxed takes up an ICU bed that another patient could use.

And a specialist or maybe a whole ward that should be devoted to something else (like Gynaecology or Oncology). Nothing beats to see some specialist for your non-Covid problem at 9PM with them deadly tired.

What I wonder, however, is how people would react if diabetes or not keeping in shape were transmissible conditions. You watch what you eat, you go to the gym, you strive to keep a healthy lifestyle - only for some idiot who doesn't and plays online all day long to go around spreading diabetes. You wake up one morning needing insulin for the rest of your life and 100 lbs. overweight thanks to that idiot. But all is fine because "his body his choice", right?

Personally, no, I don't think that the other dude would survive the mob. But diabetes and unhealthy lifestyles aren't transmissible, as Covid is, so we will never know...

[Pat]

Depends. That person that didn't get vaxxed takes up an ICU bed that another patient could use.

And a specialist or maybe a whole ward that should be devoted to something else (like Gynaecology or Oncology). Nothing beats to see some specialist for your non-Covid problem at 9PM with them deadly tired.

What I wonder, however, is how people would react if diabetes or not keeping in shape were transmissible conditions. You watch what you eat, you go to the gym, you strive to keep a healthy lifestyle - only for some idiot who doesn't and plays online all day long to go around spreading diabetes. You wake up one morning needing insulin for the rest of your life and 100 lbs. overweight thanks to that idiot. But all is fine because "his body his choice", right?

Personally, no, I don't think that the other dude would survive the mob. But diabetes and unhealthy lifestyles aren't transmissible, as Covid is, so we will never know...

That's just a lovely attempt to rationalize totalitarianism. I know what side you'd be on in the 1930s.