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Title: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: Spinachcat on March 20, 2021, 09:50:01 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/19/analysis-watch-these-chinese-military-ads-then-these-american-military-ads-which-country-wins-wars/ (https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/19/analysis-watch-these-chinese-military-ads-then-these-american-military-ads-which-country-wins-wars/)

The Pentagon went after Carlson after he mocked President Joe Biden for touting “maternity flight suits” and other efforts to make the military appear more inclusive as the chief priority of the DOD. Carlson’s criticism appears substantiated if you look at the way the U.S. military advertises itself and compare it to the Chinese military’s ads.

China’s ads are chiefly about communicating power and seem completely unconcerned with the race or gender of the people in them. U.S. military ads sound like corporate ads, emphasizing pay benefits, “grievances” and more.

One of China’s latest ads looks like something out of Call of Duty, slapping footage of gunfights, missiles and tanks together with a rap soundtrack.


Fortunately for our cucked military and the clownshow brass, future war will be automated so everybody can get their tranny surgery, wear their maternity power armor and play drone Nintendo from thousands of miles away.
Title: Re: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: moonsweeper on March 21, 2021, 01:15:37 AM
Part of that stems from the fact the US hasn't fought a 'war' since Korea and even that was marginal.*
Everything since then has been solely about making someone money.

Most people don't have the mindset and the military is not actually being trained for it anymore.


* No, I am not making a reference to that being the last actual declared war for the US.  I am saying that Korea was the last conflict that was approached with anything close to the proper principles of warfare.
Title: Re: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: Kyle Aaron on March 21, 2021, 02:26:37 AM
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Title: Re: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: DELETE THIS on March 21, 2021, 07:17:24 AM
What’s more troubling is that the US military is publicly attacking a private citizen for daring to criticize them. Can’t wait for the gulags to start opening up!
Title: Re: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: Shasarak on March 21, 2021, 05:56:37 PM
Part of that stems from the fact the US hasn't fought a 'war' since Korea and even that was marginal.*

They may not have fought any wars but they have fought a shit load of "peace keeping" actions.

Where as China has essentially had their butts handed to them by their Indian neighbours over a border dispute.
Title: Re: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: SirFrog on March 21, 2021, 07:43:30 PM
* No, I am not making a reference to that being the last actual declared war for the US.  I am saying that Korea was the last conflict that was approached with anything close to the proper principles of warfare.

I’m not sure I agree at all with that statement. “Total War” is a fallacy (and serious misunderstanding of Clausewitz) that led to a lot of unnecessary death and destruction in the late 19th to early 20th Century. Proper principles of warfare are always constrained by politics. Korea is also not a Good example of what you’re postulating.
Title: Re: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: moonsweeper on March 21, 2021, 08:57:54 PM
* No, I am not making a reference to that being the last actual declared war for the US.  I am saying that Korea was the last conflict that was approached with anything close to the proper principles of warfare.

I’m not sure I agree at all with that statement. “Total War” is a fallacy (and serious misunderstanding of Clausewitz) that led to a lot of unnecessary death and destruction in the late 19th to early 20th Century. Proper principles of warfare are always constrained by politics. Korea is also not a Good example of what you’re postulating.

I said Korea was the last one that was fought around any principle of actual 'warfare' and was not just a moneymaking venture.

I also never said anything about 'Total War' or even referenced Clausewitz.  I said exactly what I meant.

'Warfare' is the final option when nothing else is left to try.  From a moral perspective alone that defines the whole situation.  From a practical perspective warfare is solely about achieving objectives, nothing more and nothing less.  If it has reached a situation where it is morally acceptable to prosecute a war, then the only moral path is to achieve the objective as quickly as possible.  To do anything else is a sign of moral bankruptcy.
Title: Re: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: SHARK on March 21, 2021, 10:11:04 PM
Greetings!

"Total War" is a fallacy? Uh, I don't think so.

The Roman Empire did "Total War" very well. And, well, not to be outdone, the Mongol Empire also demonstrated whole new lessons to what "Total War" really meant. In ancient China, the different Chinese Dynasties and empires also routinely employed principles of Total War very effectively, against a variety of opponents.

Then, of course, American development of "Total War" against the South during the Civil War, and subsequently against the Native American tribes across the North American continent. America's prosecution of "Total War" during World War II against Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire was absolutely decisive. Such implementation of Total War principles utterly broke the Nazis and the Japanese to their knees, and laid the foundations for America's rise as a global superpower.

I would say "Total War" throughout history has been entirely established as the ultimately most effective way to engage in warfare, regardless of what Clausewitz thought or wrote about the subject.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: SHARK on March 21, 2021, 10:18:09 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/19/analysis-watch-these-chinese-military-ads-then-these-american-military-ads-which-country-wins-wars/ (https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/19/analysis-watch-these-chinese-military-ads-then-these-american-military-ads-which-country-wins-wars/)

The Pentagon went after Carlson after he mocked President Joe Biden for touting “maternity flight suits” and other efforts to make the military appear more inclusive as the chief priority of the DOD. Carlson’s criticism appears substantiated if you look at the way the U.S. military advertises itself and compare it to the Chinese military’s ads.

China’s ads are chiefly about communicating power and seem completely unconcerned with the race or gender of the people in them. U.S. military ads sound like corporate ads, emphasizing pay benefits, “grievances” and more.

One of China’s latest ads looks like something out of Call of Duty, slapping footage of gunfights, missiles and tanks together with a rap soundtrack.


Fortunately for our cucked military and the clownshow brass, future war will be automated so everybody can get their tranny surgery, wear their maternity power armor and play drone Nintendo from thousands of miles away.

Greetings!

LOL. Sadly, our entire military is being infiltrated more and more by the cock-sucking SJW's, making our military into a feminized mess. I guarantee that our "Peer Level" rivals--such as Russia and China--don't give a flying fuck about what women think, or what desperate Rainbow minorities want. America will suffer for catering to the SJW morons. That's something you can take to the bank.

Our future doesn't look good.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: How the USA and China now advertise their militaries is not surprising
Post by: horsesoldier on March 22, 2021, 10:23:31 AM
I don't really have much to add other than that the Chinese army has not covered itself in martial valor when given the opportunity for quite some time. That's my solace. Of course, army on army actions are going to be limited in a pacific theater. How many ships sunk or bases obliterated is the US public willing to accept over Taiwan or something like that? How much of our electronic arsenal do we make entirely domestically? Sure, Colt might be able to make an M4 entirely domestically, but what about the fire control systems for AEGIS? I'm talking every bit and bob. None of the IT infrastructure is domestic. Might have the odd networking component assembled here.

How much stomach do our overseas partners have for our bases on their land getting obliterated? Or even just attacked?

We're not a sleeping giant anymore. We are a castrated giant.

Even if China did invade Taiwan, the only thing it would wound up being is a resettlement program for Taiwanese to come to America.

I personally do not care about Taiwan and I would prefer a return to isolation, so none of this is worth it to me.