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Author Topic: Here's your Mask Protocol  (Read 71437 times)

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #450 on: July 16, 2021, 01:05:09 PM »
Looks like this started about a month ago.  Heads up for anyone living in the Centennial state...

https://covid19.colorado.gov/press-release/state-begins-outbound-phone-campaign-to-encourage-vaccination
So they call or text people? The horror...

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« Reply #451 on: July 16, 2021, 01:35:56 PM »
Looks like this started about a month ago.  Heads up for anyone living in the Centennial state...

https://covid19.colorado.gov/press-release/state-begins-outbound-phone-campaign-to-encourage-vaccination
So they call or text people? The horror...

Show me a time they've done this for a flu/pneumonia/meningitis vaccine. Having my name, phone number and presumably address in a database, controlled by the state government, simply because I have refused to do something? That doesn't bother you?

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« Reply #452 on: July 16, 2021, 02:48:33 PM »
Show me a time they've done this for a flu/pneumonia/meningitis vaccine. Having my name, phone number and presumably address in a database, controlled by the state government, simply because I have refused to do something? That doesn't bother you?

State governments already have names, phone numbers, and addresses in a database for a huge number of purposes - for jury summons, voter registration, state taxes, as well as tons of other purposes ranging to car registration, pet registration, amber alerts, and so forth.

But the data collected by the state and federal governments pales compared to how much information is collected by private companies. There are massive databases that track all purchases, Internet activity, geolocation data, and so forth. I favor greater privacy laws in general, and I don't see it as a new issue with covid.

I think the big disconnect is that the previous topic was about intercepting and blocking SMS messages based on content, and treason as Zelen wrote:

I think people who follow politics know the government has been engaging in spying on US citizens communications in a way that was always fishy, and has been shown to be illegal for many years. In theory that abuse was limited in scope, although that assumption isn't based on evidence and "the Right" collectively was wrong to downplay the potential for abuse.

We don't know the solid details of what this report suggests is happening. However, presumably this isn't a continuation of existing programs, which wouldn't be noteworthy. The report suggests a dramatic, national-scale expansion of surveillance efforts, and also suggests other methods (unspecified) of intervention. Any intervention at all on this scale is simply treason.

This sounds very different than sending out informational messages.

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« Reply #453 on: July 16, 2021, 05:22:50 PM »
Show me a time they've done this for a flu/pneumonia/meningitis vaccine. Having my name, phone number and presumably address in a database, controlled by the state government, simply because I have refused to do something? That doesn't bother you?

State governments already have names, phone numbers, and addresses in a database for a huge number of purposes - for jury summons, voter registration, state taxes, as well as tons of other purposes ranging to car registration, pet registration, amber alerts, and so forth.

And we aknowledged that they had a good enough reason for it. Summoning people for jurty duty, registering to vote, collecting taxes, registering cars, pets, sending out alerts and so forth.

But there almost always comes a time when the government looks over their domain and says, "Well, they let us do all that collation of people, what's one more thing?"
When is it too much? When is it inappropriate? When should we put our foot (feet?) down and say "No"?

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But the data collected by the state and federal governments pales compared to how much information is collected by private companies. There are massive databases that track all purchases, Internet activity, geolocation data, and so forth. I favor greater privacy laws in general, and I don't see it as a new issue with covid.

I'm no fan of the way private companies gather and distibute information on people. I think it's being magnified by the government getting in on the action with the private companies. As in the latest push for Facebook to become a government propoganda site.
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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #454 on: July 16, 2021, 06:52:59 PM »
How does that apply to money making from the vaccines in your country?

They are given special, additional, exceptional payments for each jab they deliver. They aren't paid off for any other vaccine delivery.

I have never been pursued in this way for any other medical intervention in my life. I get offered the useless flu jab every year, it's a single text. This has been five different attempts to contact me, and I suspect if they had a working landline they'd be calling that frequently as well.

What's so important about this vaccine that it merits a treatment never used for anything else before?
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« Reply #455 on: July 16, 2021, 08:23:14 PM »
I have never been pursued in this way for any other medical intervention in my life. I get offered the useless flu jab every year, it's a single text. This has been five different attempts to contact me, and I suspect if they had a working landline they'd be calling that frequently as well.

What's so important about this vaccine that it merits a treatment never used for anything else before?

Because the intent has never been about protecting people, the it's always been to create a global social credit & surveillance network. The vaccine passports are essential to that, because they give 100% ID authentication and location tracking. The fact that it involves forcibly violating your own bodily integrity just helps break down your psychological resistance, since once you submit to arbitrary invasive demands you're going to subconsciously become more compliant to other demands.

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« Reply #456 on: July 16, 2021, 09:36:25 PM »
How does that apply to money making from the vaccines in your country?

They are given special, additional, exceptional payments for each jab they deliver. They aren't paid off for any other vaccine delivery.

I have never been pursued in this way for any other medical intervention in my life. I get offered the useless flu jab every year, it's a single text. This has been five different attempts to contact me, and I suspect if they had a working landline they'd be calling that frequently as well.

What's so important about this vaccine that it merits a treatment never used for anything else before?
Reminds me of the people that want me to install solar on my house. I cant tell them no often enough, and they seem to ignore no soliciting signs like they aren't even there.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #457 on: July 16, 2021, 09:37:23 PM »
I have never been pursued in this way for any other medical intervention in my life. I get offered the useless flu jab every year, it's a single text. This has been five different attempts to contact me, and I suspect if they had a working landline they'd be calling that frequently as well.

What's so important about this vaccine that it merits a treatment never used for anything else before?

Because the intent has never been about protecting people, the it's always been to create a global social credit & surveillance network. The vaccine passports are essential to that, because they give 100% ID authentication and location tracking. The fact that it involves forcibly violating your own bodily integrity just helps break down your psychological resistance, since once you submit to arbitrary invasive demands you're going to subconsciously become more compliant to other demands.
Your tinfoil hat needs to be loosened.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #458 on: July 17, 2021, 09:58:43 AM »
Your tinfoil hat needs to be loosened.

Trust me, I'd love it if I were wrong.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #459 on: July 17, 2021, 11:48:43 AM »
Zelen, you sound like all those late 18th century conspiracy nutters.   ;D


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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #460 on: July 17, 2021, 04:05:54 PM »
https://odysee.com/@AlisonMorrow:6/How-weather-affects-viral-infections-like-Covid---why-there's-silence-in-science:2

Alison Morrow interviews two scientists discussing why seasonality is the biggest driver of respiratory illnesses. Pretty interesting, I especially found it thought-provoking when the point was made around the 46:00 mark about how we are now treating infections as an issue of blaming & shaming others when it may be more one of environment.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #461 on: July 18, 2021, 12:22:40 PM »

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« Reply #462 on: July 18, 2021, 09:05:29 PM »
https://www.ksbw.com/article/northern-california-county-changes-covid-19-death-reporting/36641556

"Previously, the county had included any person who died while infected with the virus. For example, if someone had died in a car crash but had tested positive for COVID-19, they were counted as part of the county's virus deaths - though they would not be included in the state's figures, T he Mercury News reported."

I remember when saying such a thing got you branded a conspiracy nutter.

Imagine what "misinformation" will be news tomorrow.
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« Reply #463 on: July 19, 2021, 12:04:16 PM »
Because the intent has never been about protecting people, the it's always been to create a global social credit & surveillance network. The vaccine passports are essential to that, because they give 100% ID authentication and location tracking. The fact that it involves forcibly violating your own bodily integrity just helps break down your psychological resistance, since once you submit to arbitrary invasive demands you're going to subconsciously become more compliant to other demands.

Quite. It was never about public health, because coronaviruses are trivial to the majority.

Your tinfoil hat needs to be loosened.

You really are a special brand of stupid and servile, aren't you? Oh, and my "tinfoil hat" comes off easily if I change my mind. Shame about your permanently and irreversibly altered DNA if you've been jabbed.

I saw lots of your ilk out today. Our mask mandate has finally ended (not that I ever wore one), and most of the sheep are still dutifully wearing their muzzles.
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« Reply #464 on: July 19, 2021, 12:43:03 PM »
Show me a time they've done this for a flu/pneumonia/meningitis vaccine. Having my name, phone number and presumably address in a database, controlled by the state government, simply because I have refused to do something? That doesn't bother you?

State governments already have names, phone numbers, and addresses in a database for a huge number of purposes - for jury summons, voter registration, state taxes, as well as tons of other purposes ranging to car registration, pet registration, amber alerts, and so forth.

But the data collected by the state and federal governments pales compared to how much information is collected by private companies. There are massive databases that track all purchases, Internet activity, geolocation data, and so forth. I favor greater privacy laws in general, and I don't see it as a new issue with covid.


Sure, but my emphasis is for not doing something. I'm in a database because I just exist. A special database full of other people who just exist. This is out of the purview of every level of government, local, state and federal. It's being done at the behest of a federal bureaucracy.

When were flu/pneumonia/meningitis vaccinations tracked like this?