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Author Topic: Here's your Mask Protocol  (Read 71638 times)

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #315 on: June 03, 2021, 10:28:17 PM »
I agree with Brad and Pat.

There's never been a moment in my lifetime more in need of Americans rising violently to destroy our internal enemies and save the nation....but I've also never seen Americans act more like sheep than 2020, nor do I see that changing.

So I do believe there will be an uprising...met with mass apathy.

However, I don't know if that uprising will be violent. I hope it will manifest as a realization that its time for a National Divorce because there's no longer a shared culture. But I am also aware that even peaceful Secessionists would have to overcome a mountain of apathy. 

Brad is right that the anger is real, just as Pat is right that the apathy is real. The piece that none of us know is whether anger or apathy will win the day. We can throw "stats" (aka MSM lies) and personal observations at each other, but until the rubber meets the road, we truly don't know.

What I do believe is happening is Red vs. Blue state actions are ramping up. AKA, the red states are taking action to become "more red" and blue states are becoming "more blue" with their policies which deepens the cultural divide.

Last month, we heard about several Oregon counties seeking to secede from Oregon and join Idaho, and apparently it will be on the ballot. This week, we heard about Buckhead - the rich honky part of Atlanta - seeking to secede from Atlanta and become its own city.

Whether these actions succeed and spawn more "soft secessions" remains to be seen. Also, we have no idea whether the success (or failure) of these actions will accelerate us toward a National Divorce or dilute that energy.

Or we'll see a race war erupt into a civil war or collapse into communism that catches the masses unaware until its too late. Plenty of historical examples of sudden changes of fortune. 

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #316 on: June 03, 2021, 10:51:51 PM »
I think apathy would be a good alternative. Stop treating stalemates as existential threats that ruin everything. Learn to let it go, and stop trying to force one set of rules on everyone. Let people do their own things.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #317 on: June 04, 2021, 04:02:31 AM »
I think apathy would be a good alternative. Stop treating stalemates as existential threats that ruin everything. Learn to let it go, and stop trying to force one set of rules on everyone. Let people do their own things.
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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #318 on: June 04, 2021, 04:22:24 AM »
I think apathy would be a good alternative. Stop treating stalemates as existential threats that ruin everything. Learn to let it go, and stop trying to force one set of rules on everyone. Let people do their own things.

Except the current situation is not a stalemate. 

If it were the MSM would be treating everyone equally, the Feds would be treating all of the rioters equally, and people wouldn't be physically or financially attacked for their political opinions.

It won't end with apathy because one side has tasted blood and found that violence and force works.  History is one continuous story of people like that never 'voluntarily' ceding their power to reach an amicable settlement.  Look at the mask mandates for an example. 

Secession won't ever be allowed on any real scale because it cedes revenue for the 'state'.  Since money is a printed fiat, the amount supposedly 'sent' to the area doesn't matter, only what the 'state' receives...and the 'state' never cedes financial power.
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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #319 on: June 04, 2021, 10:49:26 AM »
I think apathy would be a good alternative. Stop treating stalemates as existential threats that ruin everything. Learn to let it go, and stop trying to force one set of rules on everyone. Let people do their own things.

Except the current situation is not a stalemate. 
That wasn't a general statement about the relative position of different sides. I'm referring to attitude and tactics. The modern tendency to treat a failure to get your way as an existential threat.

Not being able to pass a bill doesn't doom everyone to perdition, it just means people are heavily divided. Let it go. If you can't get a broad consensus (and no, 51% is not a consensus), let people respond in their own way, instead of doing everything possible to force one (your) solution on them.

When everything is treated as a crisis that can only be solved by new legislation, it justifies the worst possible behavior in everyone involved. Anything goes, any opposition is the Enemy and must be eliminated by any means necessary, and the resultant laws are inevitably shit because there's no time for review, and the usual suspects will pack them full of all kinds of other crap they couldn't get passed in normal times.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #320 on: June 04, 2021, 11:23:35 AM »
The biggest thing is to stop being complacent.

A lot of people are happy to keep buying products from Woke creators & vendors, even though the Woke ideology is actively anti-White, actively bigoted against all races that don't parrot Woke-ism, actively pro-violence to achieve its ends, it's actively pro-psychological abuse, pro-sexual abuse, and pro-Totalitarian control over every word, act, or thought.

Spending money, or more importantly time and attention, on products that are openly funding or promoting violent & abusive behavior is wrong, and complacency now is going to be a very real cost in blood (whether for you or your children) later.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #321 on: June 04, 2021, 11:39:53 AM »
The biggest thing is to stop being complacent.

A lot of people are happy to keep buying products from Woke creators & vendors, even though the Woke ideology is actively anti-White, actively bigoted against all races that don't parrot Woke-ism, actively pro-violence to achieve its ends, it's actively pro-psychological abuse, pro-sexual abuse, and pro-Totalitarian control over every word, act, or thought.

Spending money, or more importantly time and attention, on products that are openly funding or promoting violent & abusive behavior is wrong, and complacency now is going to be a very real cost in blood (whether for you or your children) later.
I'll take complacency over your delusions anytime.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #323 on: June 04, 2021, 11:56:22 AM »
The biggest thing is to stop being complacent.

A lot of people are happy to keep buying products from Woke creators & vendors, even though the Woke ideology is actively anti-White, actively bigoted against all races that don't parrot Woke-ism, actively pro-violence to achieve its ends, it's actively pro-psychological abuse, pro-sexual abuse, and pro-Totalitarian control over every word, act, or thought.

Spending money, or more importantly time and attention, on products that are openly funding or promoting violent & abusive behavior is wrong, and complacency now is going to be a very real cost in blood (whether for you or your children) later.
I'll take complacency over your delusions anytime.

 I dont know that it is delusional to expect problems down the road for one's children.  By the same token it is predictive and no one can predict the future.  Or is it delusional to say that Woke Ideology has shown it self to be actively anti-white? 

   I think the good news is I think it would be hard to run into a person on the street that is as aggressively woke as some loud people on the internet.   The bad news is some of these sorts seem to be finding their way into places where they can actually make policy.   Expecting trouble down the road with the tone as it is now... constantly amplifying; I do not think is a reach.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #324 on: June 04, 2021, 02:03:31 PM »
I'll take complacency over your delusions anytime.

What's delusional? Woke people openly advocate for violence, imprisonment and enslavement of people they don't like and abusing their children. Is it delusional to see that rhetoric and believe that people mean what they say?

We don't even have to operate in a hypothetical future world here. It's all happening now. I'd love it if reasonable voices prevailed, but reasonable voices are already intimidated into silence & inaction.


On a fun note:

https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #325 on: June 04, 2021, 02:34:45 PM »
The biggest thing is to stop being complacent.

A lot of people are happy to keep buying products from Woke creators & vendors, even though the Woke ideology is actively anti-White, actively bigoted against all races that don't parrot Woke-ism, actively pro-violence to achieve its ends, it's actively pro-psychological abuse, pro-sexual abuse, and pro-Totalitarian control over every word, act, or thought.

Spending money, or more importantly time and attention, on products that are openly funding or promoting violent & abusive behavior is wrong, and complacency now is going to be a very real cost in blood (whether for you or your children) later.

Greetings!

Excellent, Zelen. Very true. The fucking nutty, Marxist Woke BS needs to be stopped hard.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #326 on: June 04, 2021, 03:52:26 PM »
I'll take complacency over your delusions anytime.

What's delusional? Woke people openly advocate for violence, imprisonment and enslavement of people they don't like and abusing their children. Is it delusional to see that rhetoric and believe that people mean what they say?

We don't even have to operate in a hypothetical future world here. It's all happening now. I'd love it if reasonable voices prevailed, but reasonable voices are already intimidated into silence & inaction.


On a fun note:

https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/
Please point out anyone that is advocating violence, imprisonment, or enslavement of you or your children. No, don't point it out to me; point it out to the police (unless your delusion is that the police are the instruments of the violence, imprisonment, or enslavement you speak of). If you have some evidence to back up what you're saying, they'll take care of it the right way. OTOH, if it's just your delusions, make sure to tell them you're looking at lashing out at those you feel are against you so that you can get the help you need for your mental illness.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #327 on: June 04, 2021, 05:46:18 PM »
What's delusional? Woke people openly advocate for violence, imprisonment and enslavement of people they don't like and abusing their children. Is it delusional to see that rhetoric and believe that people mean what they say?

We don't even have to operate in a hypothetical future world here. It's all happening now. I'd love it if reasonable voices prevailed, but reasonable voices are already intimidated into silence & inaction.
   I think the good news is I think it would be hard to run into a person on the street that is as aggressively woke as some loud people on the internet.   The bad news is some of these sorts seem to be finding their way into places where they can actually make policy.   Expecting trouble down the road with the tone as it is now... constantly amplifying; I do not think is a reach.

Are we talking about online rhetoric?

People say extreme shit online all the time. That long predates current trends. SHARK regularly talks about how Marxists are all scum who need to be bashed in the head, for example.

I agree that it could potentially get worse, but I also think that the vast majority of online shit-stirrers have zero interest in actual physical violence.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #328 on: June 04, 2021, 06:05:36 PM »
What's delusional? Woke people openly advocate for violence, imprisonment and enslavement of people they don't like and abusing their children. Is it delusional to see that rhetoric and believe that people mean what they say?

We don't even have to operate in a hypothetical future world here. It's all happening now. I'd love it if reasonable voices prevailed, but reasonable voices are already intimidated into silence & inaction.
   I think the good news is I think it would be hard to run into a person on the street that is as aggressively woke as some loud people on the internet.   The bad news is some of these sorts seem to be finding their way into places where they can actually make policy.   Expecting trouble down the road with the tone as it is now... constantly amplifying; I do not think is a reach.

Are we talking about online rhetoric?

People say extreme shit online all the time. That long predates current trends. SHARK regularly talks about how Marxists are all scum who need to be bashed in the head, for example.

I agree that it could potentially get worse, but I also think that the vast majority of online shit-stirrers have zero interest in actual physical violence.

    Putting boys in girl's locker rooms is pretty frigging extreme. 

   I also do think there are extreme shit stirrers who certainly are not interested in violence themselves.  But oh, they sure would be happy if they could get the ATF or the good old "Homeland Security" department to carry out some violence for them.   I mean, when the biggest threat to public safety is White Supremacist groups (I mean, who hasn't watched members of these groups KO'ing Asians in hate crimes all over the country in big cities) and there is a TON of rhetoric around that nonsense (Which seems to completely ignore violent crime stats) I think people might just hear what they want to hear either way.
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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #329 on: June 05, 2021, 03:41:37 PM »
Putting boys in girl's locker rooms is pretty frigging extreme. 

As the father of two daughters this is where we're getting into blood eagle territory.  Women need a safe space away from men.  Always have always will.