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Author Topic: Here's your Mask Protocol  (Read 71494 times)

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #300 on: June 03, 2021, 12:07:11 PM »
Passivity and comfort will win out over internet hyperbole.

Did you actually read what I wrote? A lot of us are done with this whole "comfort over liberty" bullshit. You're in for a rude awakening.
He's whistling past the graveyard.

My expectation is that you'll see a contingent of states straight up tell the feds to either unfuck themselves or don't bother passing any more imperial decrees, because they won't be given more than a glance before getting circular-filed.

I reiterate this link: https://www.axios.com/states-banks-drop-coal-warning-biden-carbon-278bb3fb-2254-41b2-9b94-f986c1c9a3d2.html

And before someone says 'the feds have the army', here's my response: 'What army? The army they're currently shitting all over for woke points? The army they're running anyone with a scrap of patriotism out of? That army? The army where diversity is more important than gunnery?'

Heh.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #301 on: June 03, 2021, 12:07:53 PM »
Passivity and comfort will win out over internet hyperbole.

Did you actually read what I wrote? A lot of us are done with this whole "comfort over liberty" bullshit. You're in for a rude awakening.
I read what you wrote. You're just wrong. Minor, scattered resistance that's consistently been spun as terrorism across essentially all mainstream media outlets != a major uprising or a public ground swell. Especially since the mask restrictions have been effectively lifted, most people have gone back to not caring. Vaccine passports could potentially change that, but except for very leftist places like NYC where it's got broad support, it doesn't seem to be more than an idea. An idea which will be used to slowly chip away people's resistance, like everything covid- or peaceful-but-fiery-related.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #302 on: June 03, 2021, 12:20:09 PM »
Passivity and comfort will win out over internet hyperbole.

Did you actually read what I wrote? A lot of us are done with this whole "comfort over liberty" bullshit. You're in for a rude awakening.

And I can see by your subsequent posts in this thread what you really think...would you have been one of the dudes looking the other way when the Nazis were rounding up the Jews?
Did you read what I actually wrote?

No, you didn't. You just made up shit, because you're another one of those posters who reads shit into other people's posts.

I think this is appalling. I've consistently been one of the strongest advocates for basic human rights on this board. But I warned that the Hong Kong protesters were going to get squashed, and they were. Similarly, in the US, there are zero signs of a mass uprising, and hoping for one is idiotic. The people taking away our rights keep pushing the boundaries, and have been for more than year, and the populace has mostly just rolled over and accepted it. Just consider how many rights we took for granted 18 months ago, which have been erased. The few times when there's been some minor resistance, they stop pushing quite as hard, people settle down, and the window keeps moving and moving.

There will be no mass uprising. The battle on the national stage is lost, and it's lost because the people who support freedom were blind. This has been a generation-long campaign, where they've developed critical theories, then slowly taken over key institutions like academia, the media, big tech, and lower education, and driven out all other points of view. With control over what people see and the upbringing of the next generation, they've solidified their hold, and now control nearly the entire government bureaucracy and even big business.

Hoping for some miraculous revolution is futile. The only way to resist this is at lower levels. States that ignore federal dictates. Local municipalities that ignore states. Your own local school board. Succession movements, maybe, though since the Civil War that idea is so toxic it's probably a non-starter. Decentralization, local politics, and resisting the further accumulation of power by centralized autocrats.

And work on theory and ideas, not out of any hope that they'll be adopted any time in the near future, but because having a solid conceptual framework creates an opportunity when the conditions are ripe. The next time there's a major crisis, say devaluation of the US dollar and hyperinflation, people will look for answers, and may side with those who can provide them.

But there's zero chance of some sudden reversal right now.


« Last Edit: June 03, 2021, 01:02:51 PM by Pat »

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #303 on: June 03, 2021, 01:24:36 PM »
Passivity and comfort will win out over internet hyperbole.

Did you actually read what I wrote? A lot of us are done with this whole "comfort over liberty" bullshit. You're in for a rude awakening.

And I can see by your subsequent posts in this thread what you really think...would you have been one of the dudes looking the other way when the Nazis were rounding up the Jews?
Did you read what I actually wrote?

No, you didn't. You just made up shit, because you're another one of those posters who reads shit into other people's posts.

I think this is appalling. I've consistently been one of the strongest advocates for basic human rights on this board. But I warned that the Hong Kong protesters were going to get squashed, and they were. Similarly, in the US, there are zero signs of a mass uprising, and hoping for one is idiotic. The people taking away our rights keep pushing the boundaries, and have been for more than year, and the populace has mostly just rolled over and accepted it. Just consider how many rights we took for granted 18 months ago, which have been erased. The few times when there's been some minor resistance, they stop pushing quite as hard, people settle down, and the window keeps moving and moving.

There will be no mass uprising. The battle on the national stage is lost, and it's lost because the people who support freedom were blind. This has been a generation-long campaign, where they've developed critical theories, then slowly taken over key institutions like academia, the media, big tech, and lower education, and driven out all other points of view. With control over what people see and the upbringing of the next generation, they've solidified their hold, and now control nearly the entire government bureaucracy and even big business.

Hoping for some miraculous revolution is futile. The only way to resist this is at lower levels. States that ignore federal dictates. Local municipalities that ignore states. Your own local school board. Succession movements, maybe, though since the Civil War that idea is so toxic it's probably a non-starter. Decentralization, local politics, and resisting the further accumulation of power by centralized autocrats.

And work on theory and ideas, not out of any hope that they'll be adopted any time in the near future, but because having a solid conceptual framework creates an opportunity when the conditions are ripe. The next time there's a major crisis, say devaluation of the US dollar and hyperinflation, people will look for answers, and may side with those who can provide them.

But there's zero chance of some sudden reversal right now.
Hate to break it to you but we're living in the devaluation of the U.S. dollar right now.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #304 on: June 03, 2021, 02:02:00 PM »
Hate to break it to you but we're living in the devaluation of the U.S. dollar right now.

From what I see, in international trading, the U.S. dollar peaked in 2002, then had a low in 2008, and currently is around in the middle of that range.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/currency

Inflation is at around 2.6%, which is also about average of what it has been for the past 25 years, and well below the peak of 3.8% in 2008, and nothing like the hyper-inflation we saw around 1980.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/inflation-rate-cpi

I don't think these sort of shifting back and forth are what Pat is referring to. Do you have something to suggest the devaluation is more notable than these?

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #305 on: June 03, 2021, 02:26:50 PM »
I read what you wrote. You're just wrong. Minor, scattered resistance that's consistently been spun as terrorism across essentially all mainstream media outlets != a major uprising or a public ground swell. Especially since the mask restrictions have been effectively lifted, most people have gone back to not caring. Vaccine passports could potentially change that, but except for very leftist places like NYC where it's got broad support, it doesn't seem to be more than an idea. An idea which will be used to slowly chip away people's resistance, like everything covid- or peaceful-but-fiery-related.

Again, rude awakening...but that's okay, go ahead and believe the MSM.

There will be no mass uprising.

Only if 100% grade A faggots like yourself keep pretending there aren't a lot of people out here fed up with the current bullshit. Seriously, maybe like go outside or something and talk to people? I dunno...maybe you live in some liberal shithole. Out in the sticks things are quite a bit different, and we have a lot of firearms with the ability to use them.
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It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #306 on: June 03, 2021, 02:34:16 PM »

Hate to break it to you but we're living in the devaluation of the U.S. dollar right now.
Hate to break it to you, but that's why I mentioned it. The boom in home prices, and the stock market. Crypto. Rise in beef and other essentials. It hasn't impacted the CPI massively yet, but we're probably looking at 2-digit inflation if we count the entire economy (including the capital markets).

But that's not hyperinflation, and it's not enough to threaten the dollar's status as the world's reserve currency.

Yet.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #307 on: June 03, 2021, 02:34:32 PM »
I read what you wrote. You're just wrong. Minor, scattered resistance that's consistently been spun as terrorism across essentially all mainstream media outlets != a major uprising or a public ground swell. Especially since the mask restrictions have been effectively lifted, most people have gone back to not caring. Vaccine passports could potentially change that, but except for very leftist places like NYC where it's got broad support, it doesn't seem to be more than an idea. An idea which will be used to slowly chip away people's resistance, like everything covid- or peaceful-but-fiery-related.

Again, rude awakening...but that's okay, go ahead and believe the MSM.

There will be no mass uprising.

Only if 100% grade A faggots like yourself keep pretending there aren't a lot of people out here fed up with the current bullshit. Seriously, maybe like go outside or something and talk to people? I dunno...maybe you live in some liberal shithole. Out in the sticks things are quite a bit different, and we have a lot of firearms with the ability to use them.
How exactly does any of what I said match up with the mainstream media?

Oh, it doesn't.

You're just a piece of shit.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #308 on: June 03, 2021, 02:47:05 PM »

Inflation is at around 2.6%, which is also about average of what it has been for the past 25 years, and well below the peak of 3.8% in 2008, and nothing like the hyper-inflation we saw around 1980.
That was relatively high inflation, but it wasn't hyperinflation. Hyperinflation isn't 10% per year, it's thousands of percent per year. Think Venezuela or the Wiemar Republic. High inflation is damaging, but hyperinflation completely destroys the monetary base and takes the economy with it. The problem is there isn't a clear transition between the two. There's no threshold for when high inflation suddenly gets out of control and people start using bills as tinder in their fireplaces. It's largely a psychological event, which makes it very hard to predict. That's why all this monetary manipulation is dangerous.

Edit: Also, what you're calling "inflation" isn't. It's commonly called that, as a shortcut, but every economist understands what you're referring to is only a tiny part of overall inflation. You're talking about the CPI, which measures the fluctuation (rise) in the price of a basket of consumer goods. It does an okay job of measuring the rise in prices of those consumer goods, but it's not even a good measure of the rise in prices to consumers in general, because it doesn't include important parts of their budget, including housing and medical costs. And it completely ignores the capital sector, which is better measured by the rise in the stock market, which has been approaching double digits for a while. The CPI also has numerous technical problems, including how do you measure the price of a PC in 1980 vs. the price of a laptop in 2020? They're barely comparable, and a simple comparison of prices (which is generally how it's done) doesn't include the huge rise in the quality of the product (this badly distorts things like comparisons of standards of living). Inflation, when used correctly, refers to one of two things: 1) The increase in the size of the monetary base (i.e. printing dollars). This gets at the root cause, but is largely a heterodox use of the term today. Or 2), the increase in prices across the whole economy, including things like productivity gains as well as side effects from monetary policy. The CPI only reflects a tiny part of that.
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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #309 on: June 03, 2021, 02:50:20 PM »
Cue up Weird Al, 'Everything You Know Is Wrong'.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins

And of course, the U.S. dollar is just fine, right?

https://usawatchdog.com/inflation-implosion-hyperinflation-in-2022-john-williams/

In other news, we have always been at war with Oceania.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #310 on: June 03, 2021, 03:00:10 PM »
And then he'd be a martyr, and it would be an excuse to take away more basic rights.

You make it sound like that crap is going to work again...we're at the point now that either politicians get into their fucking lanes or bullets will start flying. And that isn't just hyperbole; where I live anyone with a brain is ready to do whatever it takes to oust tyranny.
Passivity and comfort will win out over internet hyperbole.
Until it doesn't.

Playing with the switch labeled 'off' and 'shoot fucking everyone' strikes me as a poor decision. But hey, I could be wrong.
And that'll be used to stoke more outrage, take away more rights, and most people will passively accept it all.
Until nobody cares what some mandarin in D.C. thinks and just straight up ignores them.

I'm sure the British thought the colonists would just lie down and take it too -- until they didn't.
This is about as well thought and likely to succeed as the Hong Kong protests of last year and the year before. What happened to the brave resistance? Oh, right. They're all dead or in jail. Exactly as everyone with any common sense predicted.

Most people don't even seem to realize that the "protests" of last year were violent riots that involved attacks on 150 federal buildings, more than 30 deaths, and billions of dollars in damage. Only the January 6th "insurrection" matters. The propaganda war is well and thoroughly lost. Hoping for some mass uprising is underpants gnome thinking.

  You are 100 percent right.   This is the whole reason I have decided leaving is a flat out better deal.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #311 on: June 03, 2021, 03:04:37 PM »
How exactly does any of what I said match up with the mainstream media?

Oh, it doesn't.

You're just a piece of shit.

Grade. A. Faggot. Confirmed.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #312 on: June 03, 2021, 03:44:51 PM »
I read what you wrote. You're just wrong. Minor, scattered resistance that's consistently been spun as terrorism across essentially all mainstream media outlets != a major uprising or a public ground swell. Especially since the mask restrictions have been effectively lifted, most people have gone back to not caring. Vaccine passports could potentially change that, but except for very leftist places like NYC where it's got broad support, it doesn't seem to be more than an idea. An idea which will be used to slowly chip away people's resistance, like everything covid- or peaceful-but-fiery-related.

Again, rude awakening...but that's okay, go ahead and believe the MSM.

There will be no mass uprising.

Only if 100% grade A faggots like yourself keep pretending there aren't a lot of people out here fed up with the current bullshit. Seriously, maybe like go outside or something and talk to people? I dunno...maybe you live in some liberal shithole. Out in the sticks things are quite a bit different, and we have a lot of firearms with the ability to use them.
How exactly does any of what I said match up with the mainstream media?

Oh, it doesn't.

You're just a piece of shit.
Wow. Pat and I agree on something.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #313 on: June 03, 2021, 03:56:27 PM »
Greetings!

Well, more of Fauci's fraud, lies, and bullshit have evidently been revealed, as well as the sniveling, cock-sucking, corrupt MSM.

What a surprise! *laughing* Many of us here have been very ceptical from the beginning, and are increasingly being proven entirely justified.

Most of this whole China Virus has been about making money, corruption, gaining more power and control, and accelerating changes in society and the economy by the elites and their corporate allies, to better mold everything into a more easily controlled mass.

I'm not surprised in the slightest. Our society is so insane and corrupt, all of it is going to cause the Fall to be so much more painful, and disastrous.

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #314 on: June 03, 2021, 07:50:01 PM »
Again, Fauci losing his job is just theatrics. A fake play put on to distract people from real accountability, which would actually involve gutting funding for institutions and potentially putting people in prison for lying & covering up relevant facts. (And probably being involved in creating the whole crisis to boot.)