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Author Topic: Here's your Mask Protocol  (Read 71541 times)

GeekyBugle

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #165 on: April 23, 2021, 08:49:04 PM »
I love hearing the idiots say you'll get hypoxia from wearing a mask because it keeps oxygen out and holds carbon dioxide in... Yet both of these molecules are vastly smaller than the COVID-19 virus that these same morons insist pass through the mask with ease. It takes some real Tucker Carlson-level dumb to not see the contradictions in these stances.

Oh, and here is a source if you like. https://news.llu.edu/health-wellness/infectious-disease-physician-breaks-down-coronavirus-mask-myths

Nice strawman you've got there (unless you can point to someone here that has that position?), you sure you can beat it to death by yourself?
Remember the guy that claimed to have a Stanford study? Read his piece on the harmfulness of masks and you'll see an example of the hypoxia nonsense.

Totally, I'm gonna go luck for it instead of you providing evidence of your claims.
You really are a lazy piece of shit with a short memory aren't you? It's not like we haven't been talking about the study in question for the last two pages of this thread, starting with post #116, but you need to be spoon-fed, don't ya?

When have I spoken about that? Also he who makes the claim has the burden of proof. But it's too much to ask of a leftie to stick to logic.
Did you somehow believe that I started this line in response to you? If so, that's your mistake. I was making a general response to the thread, not commenting on your particular brand of ignorance. And considering how far gone you are into the crazy-land side of right-wing, being called a leftie by you is hardly an insult.

Yeah you just were generalizing against anyone arguing against you because that's how you roll.

Calling you a leftie isn't an insult nor was it intended as one, is an accurate descriptor.

On the other hand you know jack shit about my political leanings, but are happy to assume.

Think the vaccines were rushed and there might be some sideeffects we're not aware off? Crazy right wing anti-vaxer!

Think the lockdown is causing more harm than good? Crazy right wing antiscience!

Think there were other measures that could have been taken? Crazy loony right wing wants to kill granma!

And yet, even the ONU/OMS said the lockdowns were being used too easily and they would cause lots of deaths due to other causes, like poverty.

But since you can't see those, it won't be you, and the party says otherwise you'll follow lockstep happilly goose stteping their commands.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #166 on: April 23, 2021, 08:56:43 PM »
Yeah you an independent thinker whose conclusions all wind up at the same spot as all the other local independent thinkers.
I don't want to play with you.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #167 on: April 23, 2021, 10:06:52 PM »

Air flows into the cabin vertically — it enters from overhead vents and is sent downward in a circular motion, exiting at floor level. Once air leaves the cabin, about half is dumped outside, and the rest is sent through HEPA (high-efficiency particulate air) filters, similar to those used in hospitals, before being mixed with fresh outside air and entering the cabin again.

Studies before Covid showed air at an airplane seat is incredible pure, relative to almost any other place you will find yourself around other people. It's one of the only places you can go where your seat's air is constantly on and continually filtered for you. You are not in an "enclosed space" in terms of the air, nor are you "breathing the same recirculated air" as it's continually refreshed.
And each person effectively gets their own ventilation system, because each seat has its own airflow directed at them. That's why it really stands out to me -- like GeekyBugle, my initial reaction was that airlines would be hotbeds of disease. But the evidence was really clear, and once you think about it a little further, it does make sense.

So, assuming you're both correct...

What's the pretext to perpetuate the use of masks outside? Are you telling me I'm at more risk at a park than on an airplane?

And it begs the question, what's the reason then for the ban on smoking on airplanes? Those wornderful filters can filter viruses but not the smoke of cigarretes?

I think the outside mask mandate is mostly silly. I think they went with it because it was easier to do a blanket ban than it was to mandate "if you're in a crowd outside you need a mask."

As for cigarettes...our society is trying to ban them everywhere they can ban them without actually banning their use entirely. So if they can ban them in an indoor setting of any kind, even if it's a safe setting, they will.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #168 on: April 23, 2021, 10:38:27 PM »

Yeah you just were generalizing against anyone arguing against you because that's how you roll.

Calling you a leftie isn't an insult nor was it intended as one, is an accurate descriptor.

On the other hand you know jack shit about my political leanings, but are happy to assume.

Think the vaccines were rushed and there might be some sideeffects we're not aware off? Crazy right wing anti-vaxer!

Think the lockdown is causing more harm than good? Crazy right wing antiscience!

Think there were other measures that could have been taken? Crazy loony right wing wants to kill granma!

And yet, even the ONU/OMS said the lockdowns were being used too easily and they would cause lots of deaths due to other causes, like poverty.

But since you can't see those, it won't be you, and the party says otherwise you'll follow lockstep happilly goose stteping their commands.
You are really showing that you don't know shit about my beliefs either and are full of assumptions. I've never said that the vaccines are going to be flawless, nor do I think the lockdowns are without issues. However, I do feel that way too many here are all too eager to assume that both the vaccines and lockdowns are totally without merit.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #169 on: April 24, 2021, 12:46:36 AM »
Yeah you an independent thinker whose conclusions all wind up at the same spot as all the other local independent thinkers.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #170 on: April 24, 2021, 01:04:29 AM »

Air flows into the cabin vertically — it enters from overhead vents and is sent downward in a circular motion, exiting at floor level. Once air leaves the cabin, about half is dumped outside, and the rest is sent through HEPA (high-efficiency particulate air) filters, similar to those used in hospitals, before being mixed with fresh outside air and entering the cabin again.

Studies before Covid showed air at an airplane seat is incredible pure, relative to almost any other place you will find yourself around other people. It's one of the only places you can go where your seat's air is constantly on and continually filtered for you. You are not in an "enclosed space" in terms of the air, nor are you "breathing the same recirculated air" as it's continually refreshed.
And each person effectively gets their own ventilation system, because each seat has its own airflow directed at them. That's why it really stands out to me -- like GeekyBugle, my initial reaction was that airlines would be hotbeds of disease. But the evidence was really clear, and once you think about it a little further, it does make sense.

So, assuming you're both correct...

What's the pretext to perpetuate the use of masks outside? Are you telling me I'm at more risk at a park than on an airplane?

And it begs the question, what's the reason then for the ban on smoking on airplanes? Those wornderful filters can filter viruses but not the smoke of cigarretes?

I think the outside mask mandate is mostly silly. I think they went with it because it was easier to do a blanket ban than it was to mandate "if you're in a crowd outside you need a mask."

As for cigarettes...our society is trying to ban them everywhere they can ban them without actually banning their use entirely. So if they can ban them in an indoor setting of any kind, even if it's a safe setting, they will.

As an ex smoker, and you're happy that your government (and mine to a lesser extent) is trying to ban smoking? When has prohibition worked? And furthermore, why does the government have the right to tell you what you can do with your body?

Why can't a bar/restaurant/etc choose to allow indoor smoking? Put a sign and let non-smokers go somewhere else? That's the liberal way, the other is the totalitarian way.

But I see BeijingBiden already wants to prohibit the consumption of red meat... Why aren't all the gringos protesting against this?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

― George Orwell

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #171 on: April 24, 2021, 01:07:54 AM »

Yeah you just were generalizing against anyone arguing against you because that's how you roll.

Calling you a leftie isn't an insult nor was it intended as one, is an accurate descriptor.

On the other hand you know jack shit about my political leanings, but are happy to assume.

Think the vaccines were rushed and there might be some sideeffects we're not aware off? Crazy right wing anti-vaxer!

Think the lockdown is causing more harm than good? Crazy right wing antiscience!

Think there were other measures that could have been taken? Crazy loony right wing wants to kill granma!

And yet, even the ONU/OMS said the lockdowns were being used too easily and they would cause lots of deaths due to other causes, like poverty.

But since you can't see those, it won't be you, and the party says otherwise you'll follow lockstep happilly goose stteping their commands.
You are really showing that you don't know shit about my beliefs either and are full of assumptions. I've never said that the vaccines are going to be flawless, nor do I think the lockdowns are without issues. However, I do feel that way too many here are all too eager to assume that both the vaccines and lockdowns are totally without merit.

Or... More likelly, you assume any and all criticism as saying they lack any merit. And then proceed to channel your inner Greta Thunberg.


Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

― George Orwell

Shasarak

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #172 on: April 24, 2021, 01:25:00 AM »
And then proceed to channel your inner Greta Thunberg.

Dont we all have a little autistic scandinavian girl in each of us.
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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #173 on: April 24, 2021, 09:21:30 AM »

Yeah you just were generalizing against anyone arguing against you because that's how you roll.

Calling you a leftie isn't an insult nor was it intended as one, is an accurate descriptor.

On the other hand you know jack shit about my political leanings, but are happy to assume.

Think the vaccines were rushed and there might be some sideeffects we're not aware off? Crazy right wing anti-vaxer!

Think the lockdown is causing more harm than good? Crazy right wing antiscience!

Think there were other measures that could have been taken? Crazy loony right wing wants to kill granma!

And yet, even the ONU/OMS said the lockdowns were being used too easily and they would cause lots of deaths due to other causes, like poverty.

But since you can't see those, it won't be you, and the party says otherwise you'll follow lockstep happilly goose stteping their commands.
You are really showing that you don't know shit about my beliefs either and are full of assumptions. I've never said that the vaccines are going to be flawless, nor do I think the lockdowns are without issues. However, I do feel that way too many here are all too eager to assume that both the vaccines and lockdowns are totally without merit.

Or... More likelly, you assume any and all criticism as saying they lack any merit. And then proceed to channel your inner Greta Thunberg.



You're projecting again. You screech far more loudly and more frequently than many here.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #174 on: April 24, 2021, 07:41:22 PM »

Air flows into the cabin vertically — it enters from overhead vents and is sent downward in a circular motion, exiting at floor level. Once air leaves the cabin, about half is dumped outside, and the rest is sent through HEPA (high-efficiency particulate air) filters, similar to those used in hospitals, before being mixed with fresh outside air and entering the cabin again.

Studies before Covid showed air at an airplane seat is incredible pure, relative to almost any other place you will find yourself around other people. It's one of the only places you can go where your seat's air is constantly on and continually filtered for you. You are not in an "enclosed space" in terms of the air, nor are you "breathing the same recirculated air" as it's continually refreshed.
And each person effectively gets their own ventilation system, because each seat has its own airflow directed at them. That's why it really stands out to me -- like GeekyBugle, my initial reaction was that airlines would be hotbeds of disease. But the evidence was really clear, and once you think about it a little further, it does make sense.

So, assuming you're both correct...

What's the pretext to perpetuate the use of masks outside? Are you telling me I'm at more risk at a park than on an airplane?

And it begs the question, what's the reason then for the ban on smoking on airplanes? Those wornderful filters can filter viruses but not the smoke of cigarretes?

I think the outside mask mandate is mostly silly. I think they went with it because it was easier to do a blanket ban than it was to mandate "if you're in a crowd outside you need a mask."

As for cigarettes...our society is trying to ban them everywhere they can ban them without actually banning their use entirely. So if they can ban them in an indoor setting of any kind, even if it's a safe setting, they will.

As an ex smoker, and you're happy that your government (and mine to a lesser extent) is trying to ban smoking? When has prohibition worked? And furthermore, why does the government have the right to tell you what you can do with your body?

Why can't a bar/restaurant/etc choose to allow indoor smoking? Put a sign and let non-smokers go somewhere else? That's the liberal way, the other is the totalitarian way.

But I see BeijingBiden already wants to prohibit the consumption of red meat... Why aren't all the gringos protesting against this?

Not sure where you got the impression I am happy about either the outdoor mask requirement or the attempt to ban cigarettes but I am not. I don't smoke them, but I do sometimes smoke cigars, and I think we went too far to infringe people's choice to choose to smoke by exaggerating second hand smoke impacts as a pretext.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #175 on: April 24, 2021, 09:12:23 PM »
So, if you are a complete sociopath you might question whether or not you need to wear one, but otherwise it is obvious you should.
I'm not interested in humoring those afflicted with hypochondriasis. 
Two can play diagnose the mental illness game. :-/

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #176 on: April 26, 2021, 06:36:59 PM »
So, if you are a complete sociopath you might question whether or not you need to wear one, but otherwise it is obvious you should.
I'm not interested in humoring those afflicted with hypochondriasis. 
Two can play diagnose the mental illness game. :-/

You are mindless goof if you believe it makes you a hypochondriac to wear a mask around other people after a year in which ~600,000 americans died of a novel virus spread through air droplets.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #177 on: April 26, 2021, 09:41:57 PM »
So, if you are a complete sociopath you might question whether or not you need to wear one, but otherwise it is obvious you should.
I'm not interested in humoring those afflicted with hypochondriasis. 
Two can play diagnose the mental illness game. :-/

You are mindless goof if you believe it makes you a hypochondriac to wear a mask around other people after a year in which ~600,000 americans died of a novel virus spread through air droplets.

I heard that it was 100 million dead.
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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #178 on: April 26, 2021, 09:59:48 PM »
So, if you are a complete sociopath you might question whether or not you need to wear one, but otherwise it is obvious you should.
I'm not interested in humoring those afflicted with hypochondriasis. 
Two can play diagnose the mental illness game. :-/

You are mindless goof if you believe it makes you a hypochondriac to wear a mask around other people after a year in which ~600,000 americans died of a novel virus spread through air droplets.

I heard that it was 100 million dead.

Presumably that's intended as some sort of snarky joke. Assuming that's so, you're engaged in one of the weirder acts of modern performative nihilism. The denial of Covid deaths comes from a different motivation from holocaust denial, but the two share the same intellectual pedigree. They are the realm of people with malignant personality disorders, and dipshits who believe the nonsense they make up.

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Re: Here's your Mask Protocol
« Reply #179 on: April 26, 2021, 10:04:25 PM »
So, if you are a complete sociopath you might question whether or not you need to wear one, but otherwise it is obvious you should.
I'm not interested in humoring those afflicted with hypochondriasis. 
Two can play diagnose the mental illness game. :-/

You are mindless goof if you believe it makes you a hypochondriac to wear a mask around other people after a year in which ~600,000 americans died of a novel virus spread through air droplets.

I heard that it was 100 million dead.

Presumably that's intended as some sort of snarky joke. Assuming that's so, you're engaged in one of the weirder acts of modern performative nihilism. The denial of Covid deaths comes from a different motivation from holocaust denial, but the two share the same intellectual pedigree. They are the realm of people with malignant personality disorders, and dipshits who believe the nonsense they make up.

sir there are definitely no performative nihilists on this board, just people who do not care about dead seniors despite the average poster age
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