News from México or the road to Venezuela 2.0

[myleftnut]

AMLO is in the pocket of the cartels, fuck that puto. 

“No a la guerra, si a la paz, nada de declarar la guerra, eso no es solución, eso ya sabemos lo que ocasiona, siempre se va a proteger a la gente, sin masacres, con inteligencia más que con fuerza y no se va a caer en ninguna provocación”

Google translate it if you’re interested.  This was after a large massacre of civilians.  Some real bitch made words.

Those words sound totally innocuous--even laudable (at least to some)--without some clear context of what went down and what else he was saying when he said them.

PS: Jesus Christ! You lazy fuck: "No to war, yes to peace. Nothing about declaring war, that is not a solution, we already know what that causes. People will always be protected, without massacres, with intelligence more than with strength and (we) won't fall into any provocation."

(or something to that effect, the guy apparently has this passive way of phrasing things, like instead of saying "We will protect people", which can be said in Spanish "nosotros vamos a proteger a la genete", he phrases it more like "People will be protected", like it will happen on its own. The entire quote is written in that tone.)

I’m a Mexican American.  I know what those words mean. The cartels have operated with impunity.  Tell my family in Juarez those words are laudable.  I hoped the cartels would resolve their disputes and things would chill out but their constant attacks on civilians shows Mexico needs a president who WILL declare war.  The cartels need to be crushed. 

[myleftnut]

@GeekyBugle.   chilango?   

[Spinachcat]

I doubt a Mexican president would survive a war with the cartels. The cartels appear to own Mexico the same way China owns America now. The time to crush the cartels, like the time to crush the communist bitches in America, has sadly passed...or is now in the hands of the people.

[myleftnut]

I doubt a Mexican president would survive a war with the cartels. The cartels appear to own Mexico the same way China owns America now. The time to crush the cartels, like the time to crush the communist bitches in America, has sadly passed...or is now in the hands of the people.

Sadly you are correct.  Being of Mexican descent is the reason I don’t support gun control of any kind except background checks.  Mexico is the prefect example of why it doesn’t work to stop violence.  When good people arm themselves, I call that “order”.  There are several movements where locals have started to arm themselves.  The government has been cracking down.  Eventually I hope those movements gain enough steam to be sustained. 

[SHARK]

I doubt a Mexican president would survive a war with the cartels. The cartels appear to own Mexico the same way China owns America now. The time to crush the cartels, like the time to crush the communist bitches in America, has sadly passed...or is now in the hands of the people.

Sadly you are correct.  Being of Mexican descent is the reason I don’t support gun control of any kind except background checks.  Mexico is the prefect example of why it doesn’t work to stop violence.  When good people arm themselves, I call that “order”.  There are several movements where locals have started to arm themselves.  The government has been cracking down.  Eventually I hope those movements gain enough steam to be sustained.

Greetings!

Hopefully, Mexico can fight and become free. It is a constant and ongoing tragedy that Mexico suffers through such a corrupt monstrosity of oppression. When ordinary citizens are unarmed, they become the slaves to criminals and whoever is running the government.

It is mind boggling to me though how there are so many stupid, ignorant, sheep in this country that are eager to become helpless slaves and sheep. They blindly ignore what can be seen in other nations, such as Mexico. Over the years, so many people from Britain, from Australia, from Canada, from Mexico, and more, have told Americans "Don't ever give up your guns like we did! Don't let them take your guns away!"

So far, our 2nd Amendment and the massive gun ownership in America has acted as a powerful foundation of protection against tyranny here, as well as lawlessness. Over the years however, in various states, different Governors, Attorney Generals, and Legislators have ignored the Constitution, and routinely and steadily violated American citizen's rights, most particularly the resident citizens of such states. It is never a good thing, as such actions, policies, and laws then serve as precedents and examples to would-be tyrants and corrupts bureaucrats in other states, that then seek to embrace such BS and spread it to other states. It's maddening, and a constant struggle for vigilance in maintaining freedom.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Ghostmaker]

Part of it has to do with resistance to tyranny, yes. People like to trot out the tired 'your AR-15 won't stop a tank or a nuke', completely forgetting how insurgencies work.

You can't stay in a tank 24-7. You have to get out and piss, if nothing else. The tank needs fuel and rounds. Basic modern warfare requires tanks that enter urban environments to be screened with infantry because all it takes is a good-sized IED or some asshole who stole a man-portable anti-tank weapon to make a mess of things. Even if you kill the shooter, if he breaks your tank, he comes out ahead.

But another angle is self-reliance. Self-reliant, confident people are not as in need of big government as subjects are. They'll take care of your problems on their own initiative. Might be messy, sure, but it's a lot cheaper in the long run.

And of course, a quote I've passed around before and will do so again:

"Gun control is the assertion that a woman raped and strangled in an alley is somehow morally superior to one who shoots her attacker stone dead."

"Gun control is the assertion that a black man dragged to death behind a pickup truck is somehow morally superior to one who shoots his attackers stone dead."

"Gun control is the assertion that a trans individual kicked to pieces is somehow morally superior to one who shoots their attacker stone dead."

The end. Fuck gun control.

[GeekyBugle]

Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said that Twitter and Facebook made the wrong decision in blocking President Trump from their platforms.

Lopez Obrador said the move provided a hindrance to freedom of speech in a press briefing on Friday.

"How can you censor someone? Let’s see, I, as the judge of the Holy Inquisition, will punish you because I think what you’re saying is harmful?" he remarked. "Where is the law, where is the regulation, what are the norms? This is an issue of government. This is not an issue for private companies."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mexican-president-twitter-facebook-blocking-trump

Wow! Hats off to AMLO if this is true. He's got more respect for free speech than our "elected" officials!

Yes, he did say that, one of the things I have to applaud of him even if his politics/ideas are in general anathema to a freedom loving individual. (or to anyone with two brain celss to rub together and form a synapse)

[GeekyBugle]

AMLO is in the pocket of the cartels, fuck that puto. 

“No a la guerra, si a la paz, nada de declarar la guerra, eso no es solución, eso ya sabemos lo que ocasiona, siempre se va a proteger a la gente, sin masacres, con inteligencia más que con fuerza y no se va a caer en ninguna provocación”

Google translate it if you’re interested.  This was after a large massacre of civilians.  Some real bitch made words.

Like every other president before him, the "war on drugs" has failed as it was meant to be, because prohibition only breeds crime and crime cartels.

[GeekyBugle]

AMLO is in the pocket of the cartels, fuck that puto. 

“No a la guerra, si a la paz, nada de declarar la guerra, eso no es solución, eso ya sabemos lo que ocasiona, siempre se va a proteger a la gente, sin masacres, con inteligencia más que con fuerza y no se va a caer en ninguna provocación”

Google translate it if you’re interested.  This was after a large massacre of civilians.  Some real bitch made words.

Those words sound totally innocuous--even laudable (at least to some)--without some clear context of what went down and what else he was saying when he said them.

PS: Jesus Christ! You lazy fuck: "No to war, yes to peace. Nothing about declaring war, that is not a solution, we already know what that causes. People will always be protected, without massacres, with intelligence more than with strength and (we) won't fall into any provocation."

(or something to that effect, the guy apparently has this passive way of phrasing things, like instead of saying "We will protect people", which can be said in Spanish "nosotros vamos a proteger a la genete", he phrases it more like "People will be protected", like it will happen on its own. The entire quote is written in that tone.)

I’m a Mexican American.  I know what those words mean. The cartels have operated with impunity.  Tell my family in Juarez those words are laudable.  I hoped the cartels would resolve their disputes and things would chill out but their constant attacks on civilians shows Mexico needs a president who WILL declare war.  The cartels need to be crushed.

Partly correct, it was during the "drug war" that a certain town in the north got all it's police murdered, including their families.

Prohibitions has never worked and never will, as long as the "crime" is a victimless one it should be removed from the laws as a "crime".

Important distinction because even if CP and other pedo interests can never truly be eliminated those should remain illegal because there's a victim.

[GeekyBugle]

@GeekyBugle.   chilango?

Guilty as charged.

[GeekyBugle]

I doubt a Mexican president would survive a war with the cartels. The cartels appear to own Mexico the same way China owns America now. The time to crush the cartels, like the time to crush the communist bitches in America, has sadly passed...or is now in the hands of the people.

Sadly you are correct.  Being of Mexican descent is the reason I don’t support gun control of any kind except background checks.  Mexico is the prefect example of why it doesn’t work to stop violence.  When good people arm themselves, I call that “order”.  There are several movements where locals have started to arm themselves.  The government has been cracking down.  Eventually I hope those movements gain enough steam to be sustained.

Preach it!

[GeekyBugle]

I doubt a Mexican president would survive a war with the cartels. The cartels appear to own Mexico the same way China owns America now. The time to crush the cartels, like the time to crush the communist bitches in America, has sadly passed...or is now in the hands of the people.

Sadly you are correct.  Being of Mexican descent is the reason I don’t support gun control of any kind except background checks.  Mexico is the prefect example of why it doesn’t work to stop violence.  When good people arm themselves, I call that “order”.  There are several movements where locals have started to arm themselves.  The government has been cracking down.  Eventually I hope those movements gain enough steam to be sustained.

Greetings!

Hopefully, Mexico can fight and become free. It is a constant and ongoing tragedy that Mexico suffers through such a corrupt monstrosity of oppression. When ordinary citizens are unarmed, they become the slaves to criminals and whoever is running the government.

It is mind boggling to me though how there are so many stupid, ignorant, sheep in this country that are eager to become helpless slaves and sheep. They blindly ignore what can be seen in other nations, such as Mexico. Over the years, so many people from Britain, from Australia, from Canada, from Mexico, and more, have told Americans "Don't ever give up your guns like we did! Don't let them take your guns away!"

So far, our 2nd Amendment and the massive gun ownership in America has acted as a powerful foundation of protection against tyranny here, as well as lawlessness. Over the years however, in various states, different Governors, Attorney Generals, and Legislators have ignored the Constitution, and routinely and steadily violated American citizen's rights, most particularly the resident citizens of such states. It is never a good thing, as such actions, policies, and laws then serve as precedents and examples to would-be tyrants and corrupts bureaucrats in other states, that then seek to embrace such BS and spread it to other states. It's maddening, and a constant struggle for vigilance in maintaining freedom.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

You forget decades of socialist indoctrination in your school system, sadly in mine it has been going on for far longer.

[GeekyBugle]

Part of it has to do with resistance to tyranny, yes. People like to trot out the tired 'your AR-15 won't stop a tank or a nuke', completely forgetting how insurgencies work.

You can't stay in a tank 24-7. You have to get out and piss, if nothing else. The tank needs fuel and rounds. Basic modern warfare requires tanks that enter urban environments to be screened with infantry because all it takes is a good-sized IED or some asshole who stole a man-portable anti-tank weapon to make a mess of things. Even if you kill the shooter, if he breaks your tank, he comes out ahead.

But another angle is self-reliance. Self-reliant, confident people are not as in need of big government as subjects are. They'll take care of your problems on their own initiative. Might be messy, sure, but it's a lot cheaper in the long run.

And of course, a quote I've passed around before and will do so again:

"Gun control is the assertion that a woman raped and strangled in an alley is somehow morally superior to one who shoots her attacker stone dead."

"Gun control is the assertion that a black man dragged to death behind a pickup truck is somehow morally superior to one who shoots his attackers stone dead."

"Gun control is the assertion that a trans individual kicked to pieces is somehow morally superior to one who shoots their attacker stone dead."

The end. Fuck gun control.

Agreed 1000% and will steal those quotes for a T-Shirt.

[Spinachcat]

Yes, he did say that, one of the things I have to applaud of him even if his politics/ideas are in general anathema to a freedom loving individual. (or to anyone with two brain celss to rub together and form a synapse)

What is the law in Mexico regarding freedom of speech / expression?

Do you believe AMLO really is going to push against social media censorship? Or only if Twatter and Farcebook decide he's not leftist enough for their goals?

AKA, would AMLO push back on censorship of his political opponents?