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Author Topic: What's to be done about homelessness?  (Read 9512 times)

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #150 on: May 16, 2021, 12:34:56 PM »
the only problem with our society is crazy people so just off em

The fact that people like you are allowed to vote (assuming you're not a felon, big assumption I know), highlights the flaws of universal suffrage. Frankly, sociopaths like you are exactly the type of people who should be locked away for the good of society.


I know it sucks. I even voted for the people who will actively make things worse and everything
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #151 on: May 16, 2021, 12:52:51 PM »
Here's a mildly interesting article on how they reduced homelessness in New Orleans after Katrina
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/02/19/new-orleans-reducing-homeless-hurricane-katrina
A caveat: The article doesn't play it up, but a lot of these people were homeless because of Katrina, not because of the mental health and social issues, so it probably can't be extrapolated to solve long term homelesnesss in general. But it is more evidence that catching people who have just become homeless is fairly effective.
So perhaps the answer is more natural disasters? It worked as a staple of Syfy's films for a time...

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #152 on: May 16, 2021, 12:57:48 PM »
Here's a mildly interesting article on how they reduced homelessness in New Orleans after Katrina
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/02/19/new-orleans-reducing-homeless-hurricane-katrina
A caveat: The article doesn't play it up, but a lot of these people were homeless because of Katrina, not because of the mental health and social issues, so it probably can't be extrapolated to solve long term homelesnesss in general. But it is more evidence that catching people who have just become homeless is fairly effective.
So perhaps the answer is more natural disasters? It worked as a staple of Syfy's films for a time...

Well at least we're on track to implement that policy whether we like it or not. Nature is healing and shit.

but also it sounds like the shock effect on the psyche a natural disaster can cause is a big motivator so how do we implement that without needing a hurricane
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #153 on: May 16, 2021, 01:16:45 PM »
Here's a mildly interesting article on how they reduced homelessness in New Orleans after Katrina
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/02/19/new-orleans-reducing-homeless-hurricane-katrina
A caveat: The article doesn't play it up, but a lot of these people were homeless because of Katrina, not because of the mental health and social issues, so it probably can't be extrapolated to solve long term homelesnesss in general. But it is more evidence that catching people who have just become homeless is fairly effective.
So perhaps the answer is more natural disasters? It worked as a staple of Syfy's films for a time...

Well at least we're on track to implement that policy whether we like it or not. Nature is healing and shit.

but also it sounds like the shock effect on the psyche a natural disaster can cause is a big motivator so how do we implement that without needing a hurricane
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #154 on: May 16, 2021, 01:34:52 PM »
hell yeah let's put those red lasers to use
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #155 on: May 16, 2021, 05:23:47 PM »
hell yeah let's put those red lasers to use
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #156 on: May 16, 2021, 05:32:19 PM »
hell yeah let's put those red lasers to use
I was going for the Weather Dominator here.

I shame myself by my lack of Joe lore, your idea works better.
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #157 on: October 20, 2021, 05:35:22 PM »
You remember yesterday when America had no ideas what to do with the homeless drug addicts in their biggest richest cities?

Well turns out that the Taliban have an idea about what to do:



https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/10/11/photos-kabul-afghanistan-taliban-drugs-underworld-heroin

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #158 on: October 20, 2021, 08:05:00 PM »
The Taliban legitimately care more about their people than the US regime.

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #159 on: October 20, 2021, 08:24:54 PM »
The Taliban legitimately care more about their people than the US regime.

Key phrase: "their people". They care about their own, as they should.

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #160 on: October 21, 2021, 08:41:27 PM »
Yeah, that works till you run out of other people's money.

Though with the newly anointed Pederast In Chief, I expect some of these big-spender blue states will be coming hat in hand to the federal government for bailouts. Sleepy Joe already plans, supposedly, to remove the SALT (state and local tax) cap on federal tax deductions, which means once again states with lower taxes will be propping up the ones with higher.

From what I read, red states with lower taxes tend to be *more* dependent on federal money. Blue states tend to have higher GDP per capita, and thus bring in more federal tax money more than federal aid. In the Wallethub study below, for example, the most dependent were New Mexico, Kentucky, and Mississippi - while the least dependent were Kansas, New Jersey, and Delaware.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700

https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/

https://taxfoundation.org/federal-spending-received-dollar-taxes-paid-state-2005/

If you dispute these, do you have an another source that shows different results, where blue states are more federally dependent?

New Mexico hasn't been a red state for decades.
https://www.270towin.com/states/New_Mexico
https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_New_Mexico_state_government
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Albuquerque


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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #161 on: October 21, 2021, 08:53:16 PM »
I've got a thought on making "housing first" work without dropping the whole problem on any one neighborhood.

Put houses with six to eight bedrooms at least half a mile from each other, pay back half the rent over the course of the month if chores are done and the house passes muster.  The rooms have a bed, a closet and a desk.  Each house has a kitchen, I don't know how to get around that, delivering meals would cost more.

The "rent" would probably have to come from government or charitable institutions.  I'm not sure whether it would be better to let people pick their housemates or not.  Probably as they'd just rearrange to suit themselves anyhow.

My area of town is near the homeless shelter and I think about the problem a lot.  Probably because the city keeps on dumping the problems in my neighborhood and making things worse.
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #162 on: October 22, 2021, 05:57:52 PM »
Check out the video "Spanish Lake."
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